Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-07-03 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 7/1/2011 4:04 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote: From: William A. Rowe Jr. [mailto:wr...@rowe-clan.net] We also made it clear the *author* should also commit their own code, and all authors should become committers. Each term (semester) Bluesky will get a new crop of students (committers) and

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-07-01 Thread Bill Stoddard
I am not certain on this point, but I believe Jack Cai would be interested in being a mentor. I don't think he is subscribed to this mailing list tho. Jack? Bill On 6/29/11 9:12 PM, Chen Liu wrote: Hi,all, Now, Bluesky project calls for a new mentor to guide us to complete the release

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-07-01 Thread Benson Margulies
project calls for a new mentor to guide us to complete the release work of 4th version. BlueSky is an e-learning solution designed to help solve the disparity in availability of qualified education between well-developed cities and poorer regions of China (e.g., countryside of Western China

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-07-01 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
is subscribed to this mailing list tho. Jack? Bill On 6/29/11 9:12 PM, Chen Liu wrote: Hi,all, Now, Bluesky project calls for a new mentor to guide us to complete the release work of 4th version. BlueSky is an e-learning solution designed to help solve the disparity in availability

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-07-01 Thread Luciano Resende
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Based on the email trail recently, I'm in favor of completing the vote. I think that there is sufficient evidence that this project has 'failed to launch' as an Apache community, and should go put itself on github.

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-07-01 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 7/1/2011 10:19 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Based on the email trail recently, I'm in favor of completing the vote. I think that there is sufficient evidence that this project has 'failed to launch' as an Apache

RE: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-07-01 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: William A. Rowe Jr. [mailto:wr...@rowe-clan.net] Sent: Saturday, 2 July 2011 1:24 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor! On 7/1/2011 10:19 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Benson

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-07-01 Thread Ralph Goers
On Jul 1, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote: -Original Message- From: William A. Rowe Jr. [mailto:wr...@rowe-clan.net] Sent: Saturday, 2 July 2011 1:24 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor! On 7/1/2011 10:19 AM, Luciano Resende

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-07-01 Thread Donald Whytock
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote: Are we to keep on creating new committer accts for these folks knowing damn well that at the end of the term they disappear and a new lot appears? This is why they ( when they did commit) shared accounts. What if

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-30 Thread SamuelKevin
Hi, Ralph: I am not avoiding the truth that we suck during the last three years, though we were once at the verge of release. It's* just* we *Bluesky Team @ XJTU ,Xi'an China* fail to make it good, please remember it well. I believe projects from school could also rock in Apache as well.

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I believe projects from  school could also rock in Apache as well. You can look down up on us but you can't deny others. This is not the point. The point is, if you have contributors who have no apache id, they a) need to sign an ICLA b) need to create an Jira issue and attach an svn diff

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-30 Thread Upayavira
Personally, I see a *HEAP* of stuff Bluesky would need to handle before doing an ASF release. I would get that right out of your head from the start. Firstly, you would have to have demonstrated that all the code is covered by software grants or ICLAs that are held by the Apache Software

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-30 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:37, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: I believe projects from  school could also rock in Apache as well. You can look down up on us but you can't deny others. This is not the point. The point is, if you have contributors who have no apache id, they

RE: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-30 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Samuel Kevin wrote: Most of the developers of BlueSky project are students. As you all know, students come when they join in school and go after they graduate. So the active developers are around 10. Like we used to have 5 committers, but now we only have 2 committers in active. As others

Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-29 Thread Chen Liu
Hi,all, Now, Bluesky project calls for a new mentor to guide us to complete the release work of 4th version. BlueSky is an e-learning solution designed to help solve the disparity in availability of qualified education between well-developed cities and poorer regions of China (e.g., countryside

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-29 Thread Joe Schaefer
Subject: Bluesky calls for a new mentor! Hi,all, Now, Bluesky project calls for a new mentor to guide us to complete the release work of 4th version. BlueSky is an e-learning solution designed to help solve the disparity in availability of qualified education between well-developed

RE: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Joe Schaefer wrote: Chen Liu wrote: We propose to move future development of BlueSky to the Apache Software Foundation in order to build a broader user and developer community. You are supposed to be doing your development work in the ASF subversion repository, using ASF mailing lists, as

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-29 Thread SamuelKevin
Hi, Noel: 2011/6/30 Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com Joe Schaefer wrote: Chen Liu wrote: We propose to move future development of BlueSky to the Apache Software Foundation in order to build a broader user and developer community. You are supposed to be doing your development work in

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-29 Thread Chen Liu
We really appreciate both of your suggestions on Bluesky's development in ASF. We think that we are supposed to finish code release work of the 4th version in the end of July.Due to the effective work we really need a experienced mentor to guide our release. In addition, there are about 8-9

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-29 Thread Ralph Goers
Sorry, but the explanation below makes things sound even worse. Apache projects are not here to give students a place to do school work. What you have described is not a community. If the project cannot build a community of people who are interested in the project for more than a school term

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-29 Thread Luciano Resende
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Chen Liu liuchen0...@gmail.com wrote: We really appreciate both of your suggestions on Bluesky's development in ASF. We think that we are supposed to finish code release work of the 4th version in the end of July.Due to the effective work we really need a

Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

2011-06-29 Thread SamuelKevin
Hi, Luciano: Currently, we have 4 committers. And 2 of them stay inactive. The newest source code would be committed by me after the students grant warrant. regards, Kevin 2011/6/30 Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Chen Liu liuchen0...@gmail.com wrote: