RE: Clarification about SGA versus CCLA

2010-11-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Would you recommend that I edit the mentor page on the site with this clarification, or should we wait for more polyphony? If you really feel that there needs to be a clarification, it should probably go as a patch to the Apache site (specifically, http://www.apache.org/licenses/), where it

Re: Clarification about SGA versus CCLA

2010-11-29 Thread Benson Margulies
I made an edit to the incubator site. What do you think of it? On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: Would you recommend that I edit the mentor page on the site with this clarification, or should we wait for more polyphony? If you really feel that there

Re: Clarification about SGA versus CCLA

2010-11-28 Thread Leo Simons
Hey folks, On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com wrote: I think of a CCLA as a combination of an SGA to cover the software grant plus an acknowledgement that people in the company are going to work on Apache projects, whether on their own time or company

Re: Clarification about SGA versus CCLA

2010-11-28 Thread Craig L Russell
On Nov 28, 2010, at 4:26 AM, Leo Simons wrote: Hey folks, On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com wrote: I think of a CCLA as a combination of an SGA to cover the software grant plus an acknowledgement that people in the company are going to work on

Re: Clarification about SGA versus CCLA

2010-11-27 Thread Benson Margulies
Craig, Would you recommend that I edit the mentor page on the site with this clarification, or should we wait for more polyphony? Thanks, benson On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.comwrote: Hi Benson, I think of a CCLA as a combination of an SGA to cover

Re: Clarification about SGA versus CCLA

2010-11-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Craig, Would you recommend that I edit the mentor page on the site with this clarification, or should we wait for more polyphony? I tend to agree with Craig in this particular case, as HP owns the code to Jena and

Re: Clarification about SGA versus CCLA

2010-11-27 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Benson, I have no problem with your clarifying the page. Regards, Craig On Nov 27, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: Craig, Would you recommend that I edit the mentor page on the site with this clarification, or should we wait for more polyphony? Thanks, benson On Fri, Nov

Re: Clarification about SGA versus CCLA

2010-11-27 Thread Ian Dickinson
On 27/11/10 13:34, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I tend to agree with Craig in this particular case, as HP owns the code to Jena and it's HP employes, covered by a CCLA, who are going to commit it. I dont' think this makes a material difference to this discussion, but for clarity the committers

Re: Clarification about SGA versus CCLA

2010-11-27 Thread Benson Margulies
Well, this is going to depend on how the copyrights work, I guess. If it's clear that HP owns the copyright (all the HP people were working for hire), then a CCLA from HP will cover it. However, IANTL. - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Clarification about SGA versus CCLA

2010-11-27 Thread Craig L Russell
If the code was developed in part by HP employees on the clock then a CCLA or SGA must be obtained from HP. If the code was developed in part by others, then those other persons need to sign a SGA covering their contributions. All the current developers need to sign an ICLA. If any of the

Clarification about SGA versus CCLA

2010-11-26 Thread Benson Margulies
I can't find anything in [1] that states any conditions in which a CCLA won't do and an SGA is required instead. The Jena podling has asked me. Their situation is that an HP copyright is thought to cover all the 'corporate' code, and they wonder if there is any reason for them to chase an SGA on

Re: Clarification about SGA versus CCLA

2010-11-26 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 2:48 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: I can't find anything in [1] that states any conditions in which a CCLA won't do and an SGA is required instead. CCLA has been seen as required for individuals, working at the company, to protect them from the

Re: Clarification about SGA versus CCLA

2010-11-26 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Benson, I think of a CCLA as a combination of an SGA to cover the software grant plus an acknowledgement that people in the company are going to work on Apache projects, whether on their own time or company time. So, if a CCLA is filed naming the software, a separate SGA is *not*