Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 7/5/2011 7:36 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: Anyhow, what do other think? Should mentors be pushing early and often on this subject, or is it reasonable wait for, oh, 18 months and a few releases before getting pushy? 18 months and 'a few releases', with no obstacle but attracting more

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Benson Margulies
I wasn't clear on the timing. They launched in Nov 2010 and have made one release. It will be 18 months in June of 2012. the question I was trying to explore was, 'how essential is it to have shown that they can attract and integrate new people before hatching?' Your answer seems to be 'not

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Upayavira
I personally would say that bringing in new people is important. It is an important part of showing your project to be viable, that it is interesting enough to draw in new talent. Otherwise it is going to rely permanently on the existing committers, which is not long term viable. If a project,

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote: ...If a project, during an 18 month incubation, cannot draw in new blood, how can we believe that it will do so as a TLP? Marketing of the project, getting it known, getting people using it enough so as to draw in new blood, is

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Benson Margulies
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote: ...If a project, during an 18 month incubation, cannot draw in new blood, how can we believe that it will do so as a TLP? Marketing of the

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Given the context you explained then I have to say I agree with both Bertrand and Upayavira. On the other hand, I don't see any harm not graduating from the Incubator and the project staying there for longer time till the criteria of having more new blood into the project is satisfied, and

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Ross Gardler
On 5 July 2011 14:07, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote: ...If a project, during an 18 month incubation, cannot draw in new blood, how

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Benson Margulies
No secret here. It's OpenNLP. On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 5 July 2011 14:07, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:52 PM,

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 7/5/2011 7:45 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: I wasn't clear on the timing. They launched in Nov 2010 and have made one release. It will be 18 months in June of 2012. the question I was trying to explore was, 'how essential is it to have shown that they can attract and integrate new people