Re: principles of Apache communities

2012-02-02 Thread Ross Gardler
On 2 February 2012 06:08, David Crossley wrote: > Joe Schaefer wrote: > For ages i have wanted to add a page somewhere that explains > very clearly "principles and constraints" for the ASF. > Alas little time and none now. +1000 If anyone does have time please note that there ComDev site is writ

Re: principles of Apache communities

2012-02-02 Thread Tim Williams
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:08 AM, David Crossley wrote: > Joe Schaefer wrote: >> Here are some of the things that guide me in my decision- >> making about governance and Apache communities.  Please >> feel to add you own thoughts on the subject! >> >> 1) Fairness and Equitable Treatment- that it is

Time to vote the chair?

2012-02-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
We have discussed many things the past days, I think we need to get towards some results. Imho it was enough time to propose new incubator chair candidates. So far we have nominations for Noel, Benson and Chris M. Should we do the vote now? How is the process for voting a chair when having multipl

Re: Time to vote the chair?

2012-02-02 Thread Ross Gardler
Can we have clear and concise statements from each of the candidates about their vision for the future of the Incubator. I am particularly interested to hear the candidates opinions on the various suggestions to work more closely with ComDev (in particular the focused recommendations of Roy and Gr

Re: Time to vote the chair?

2012-02-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > We have discussed many things the past days, I think we need to get > towards some results. Imho it was enough time to propose new incubator > chair candidates. So far we have nominations for Noel, Benson and > Chris M I know Benson

Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > OK. With this and the script, I guess you would say that "patches are > welcome" ;-) > > If someone would point me to the script I'd like to see if I can make an > improvement trying on my new IPMC hat in a non-mentor role. > The issue is th

Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-02 Thread Dave Fisher
On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> OK. With this and the script, I guess you would say that "patches are >> welcome" ;-) >> >> If someone would point me to the script I'd like to see if I can make an >> improvement trying

Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
The thing I've been trying to tell you Dave is that it can't be sent before the first of the month.  That's just the way the script is coded.  If you consider this a bug we can arrange access to the script for you to hack on (it's in perl). - Original Message - > From: Dave Fisher > To:

Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-02 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > >> >> On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >>> >>> OK. With this and the script, I guess you would say that "patches are >>> welcome" ;-) >>> >>> If someone would point me to the sc

Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-02 Thread Dave Fisher
On Feb 2, 2012, at 6:16 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > The thing I've been trying to tell you Dave is that it can't > be sent before the first of the month. That's just the way > the script is coded. Understood. Dates are tricky spanning months (and years.) > If you consider this a bug we can arr

Re: Incubator, or "Incubation"?

2012-02-02 Thread Donald Whytock
Isn't there also something along the lines of what's called "culpable deniability"? Since podlings may be in states where their offerings might not be as legal as TLPs (licensing issues, trademark/branding issues, etc.), is it not more convenient for them to be relegated to an area specifically de

Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
I'll look into it... iirc, the code knows if it's run "after" that month's board date, so we could handle it there. I used the Date::Manip package to make it easier to do these sorts of date adjustments... On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > The thing I've been trying to tell you D

Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
Thanks Jim! > > From: Jim Jagielski >To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer >Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 10:12 AM >Subject: Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board >report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])] > >I'll look into it...

Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
No prob! Will do so over the weekend... A prelim look suggests it's not that much. On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Thanks Jim! > > From: Jim Jagielski > To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer > Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 10:12 AM > Subject: Re: Giving podling

last release date in reports?

2012-02-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
I've looked over the reports so far for February and am fairly impressed at the quality of them compared to January's bunch.  OTOH one bit of information I'd like to see given more attention is a podling's last release date, to see how they are progressing technically as a community which focuses o

Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-02 Thread Dave Fisher
Thanks! On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:36 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > No prob! Will do so over the weekend... > > A prelim look suggests it's not that much. > > On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > >> Thanks Jim! >> >> From: Jim Jagielski >> To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer

Re: last release date in reports?

2012-02-02 Thread Lewis John Mcgibbney
Hi Joe, I don't know if this is as fundamental as the 'last release date' issue you raise, but it might be also advantageous to the board for (especially) podlings to mention whether trunk is broken or not. In the past I've seen some podlings with trunk broken for some time and although in some ca

Re: last release date in reports?

2012-02-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
Personally that's probably a wee bit too much detail other than to mention anecdotally.  If the person who is writing the report perceives problems with the technical aspects of the project, we certainly encourage them to write about it. > > From: Lewis John Mcgi

Re: Incubator, or "Incubation"?

2012-02-02 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hey Greg, First off, thanks for commenting on this. My replies below: On Feb 1, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 21:22, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) > wrote: >> Hi Bill, >> >> On Feb 1, 2012, at 3:26 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: >> ... >>> VP Project Incubation >>>

Re: Incubator, or "Incubation"?

2012-02-02 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
Wow... a post that was too long even for me :) We might want to break this down into a couple of distinct topic threads for simplicities sake. Anyways, just one commment; On 2/2/2012 10:56 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > > On Feb 1, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > >> I can easily s

Request to join IPMC

2012-02-02 Thread Raymond Feng
Hi, I'm an Apache member and committers of a few Apache projects. As one of the mentors from the Amber (incubation) project retired, I expressed my interest to mentor the project and the responses from the community seem to be positive. My understanding is that I need to join IPMC so that I can

Re: Incubator, or "Incubation"?

2012-02-02 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hey Bill, On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:25 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > Wow... a post that was too long even for me :) We might want to break > this down into a couple of distinct topic threads for simplicities sake. Sorry I have a big mouth :) Thanks for breaking it down. Comments below. > > Anyw

Re: Incubator, or "Incubation"?

2012-02-02 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 2/2/2012 12:27 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > > I guess the key difference between this small (but important) part of > our interpretation of this Incubator fix resolution that we're discussing > is the following: > > You (and maybe Greg?) feel that you need 1 VP guy (and perhaps > a

Re: Incubator, or "Incubation"?

2012-02-02 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hey Bill, On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:33 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 2/2/2012 12:27 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: >> >> I guess the key difference between this small (but important) part of >> our interpretation of this Incubator fix resolution that we're discussing >> is the following:

Re: Time to vote the chair?

2012-02-02 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On Feb 2, 2012, at 4:52 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > We have discussed many things the past days, I think we need to get > towards some results. Imho it was enough time to propose new incubator > chair candidates. So far we have nominations for Noel, Benson and > Chris M. > > Should we do th

Re: Time to vote the chair?

2012-02-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
The way to get from here to there is with a concrete proposal followed by a vote.  I don't see why this should gate the vote on a new chair- it's clear at this point that the overwhelming consensus is that we should have one. > > From: Alan D. Cabrera >To: gener

Re: Incubator, or "Incubation"?

2012-02-02 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 2/2/2012 12:49 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > > OK. If that VP isn't a flow-through and isn't visible when things are working > optimally, then why have him/her? Because when the process needs revision, and it will, the board doesn't want to revise it. ComDev shouldn't have to revise i

Re: Time to vote the chair?

2012-02-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > The way to get from here to there is with a > concrete proposal followed by a vote.  I don't > see why this should gate the vote on a new > chair- it's clear at this point that the overwhelming > consensus is that we should have one. +1 > >

Re: Incubator, or "Incubation"?

2012-02-02 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hey Bill, On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:54 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 2/2/2012 12:49 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: >> >> OK. If that VP isn't a flow-through and isn't visible when things are working >> optimally, then why have him/her? > > Because when the process needs revision, and it

Re: Time to vote the chair?

2012-02-02 Thread Benson Margulies
I'm going to treat this like any other nomination process and provide a brief statement. Volunteeritis: I'm active on the CXF and Maven PMCs, and I am a bit of an uncle at Mahout and WS, and I've agreed to stick around as a PMC member on EmpireDB in transition from podling to TLP. My mentor invent

Re: Time to vote the chair?

2012-02-02 Thread Sam Ruby
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >> >> Should we do the vote now? How is the process for voting a chair when >> having multiple candidates? Via the votetool like the board votes?.. > > Using the http://wiki.apache.org/general/BoardVoting tool makes sense > IMO, but the cu

Re: Time to vote the chair?

2012-02-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
Well so far the only person who seems to have actually ACCEPTED a nomination was Benson. > > From: Sam Ruby >To: general@incubator.apache.org >Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 3:16 PM >Subject: Re: Time to vote the chair? > >On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 8:00 AM, B

Re: Incubator, or "Incubation"?

2012-02-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
My overall thoughts on this subject is that it is interesting to see Bill participating in a discussion that more or less amounts to knocking down the cathedral we've erected here and replacing it with a bazaar. Personally I'm not willing to walk with you guys down that route just yet, but the thin

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-sharepoint-3.0-plugin 0.1-incubating

2012-02-02 Thread Karl Wright
Apparently, I'm now a member of the IPMC. +1 from me. ;-) Karl On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Karl Wright wrote: > One more binding vote needed for this subpackage.  Please somebody vote! > > Karl > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Tommaso Teofili > wrote: >> +1 >> >> Tommaso >> >> 2011/12/

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-solr-4.x-plugin 0.1-incubating

2012-02-02 Thread Karl Wright
+1 from me (binding). Karl On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Karl Wright wrote: > We need one more binding IPMC vote for this sub-package.  Any takers? > Karl > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Tommaso Teofili > wrote: >> +1 >> >> Tommaso >> >> 2011/12/29 Karl Wright >> >>> Sorry - you can fin

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-solr-3.x-plugin 0.1-incubating

2012-02-02 Thread Karl Wright
+1 from me (binding). Karl On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Karl Wright wrote: > With Tommaso's and Jukka's vote, that's 2 down.  We still need one > more binding IPMC vote for this subpackage. > > Karl > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Tommaso Teofili > wrote: >> +1 >> >> Tommaso >> >> 2011/

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2

2012-02-02 Thread Karl Wright
+1 from me (binding). Karl On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Karl Wright wrote: > With Jukka's vote, that's 2 down.  We need one more... > > Karl > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Tommaso Teofili > wrote: >> +1 >> >> Tommaso >> >> 2012/1/4 Karl Wright >> >>> Hello Incubator IPMC, >>> >>> Pleas

Re: Incubator, or "Incubation"?

2012-02-02 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Joe, On Feb 2, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > My overall thoughts on this subject is that it is > interesting to see Bill participating in a discussion > that more or less amounts to knocking down the cathedral > we've erected here and replacing it with a bazaar. > Personally I'm not

[RESULT][VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-sharepoint-3.0-plugin 0.1-incubating

2012-02-02 Thread Karl Wright
Three binding +1's, >72 hours, vote passes. Karl On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Karl Wright wrote: > Apparently, I'm now a member of the IPMC. > > +1 from me. ;-) > > Karl > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Karl Wright wrote: >> One more binding vote needed for this subpackage.  Please somebo

[RESULT][VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-solr-4.x-plugin 0.1-incubating

2012-02-02 Thread Karl Wright
Three binding +1's, >72 hours, vote passes. Karl On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Karl Wright wrote: > +1 from me (binding). > > Karl > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Karl Wright wrote: >> We need one more binding IPMC vote for this sub-package.  Any takers? >> Karl >> >> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012

[RESULT][VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-solr-3.x-plugin 0.1-incubating

2012-02-02 Thread Karl Wright
Three binding +1's, >72 hours, vote passes. Karl On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Karl Wright wrote: > +1 from me (binding). > > Karl > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Karl Wright wrote: >> With Tommaso's and Jukka's vote, that's 2 down.  We still need one >> more binding IPMC vote for this su

[RESULT][VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2

2012-02-02 Thread Karl Wright
Three binding +1's, >72 hours, vote passes. Karl On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Karl Wright wrote: > +1 from me (binding). > Karl > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Karl Wright wrote: >> With Jukka's vote, that's 2 down.  We need one more... >> >> Karl >> >> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:33 PM, T

Re: Incubator, or "Incubation"?

2012-02-02 Thread Leo Simons
Hey folks, I just wanted to chime in with a +1 for the general direction. I think there's actually a lot of work to do to iron out how to reorganize things. Before digging in, I suggest we abstract out a little bit to see if we have consensus on the overall goals and desired end state before start

Re: Incubator, or "Incubation"?

2012-02-02 Thread Karl Wright
I like this general direction as well; seems much more manageable. +1. Karl On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Leo Simons wrote: > Hey folks, > > I just wanted to chime in with a +1 for the general direction. I think > there's actually a lot of work to do to iron out how to reorganize > things. Bef

Re: Incubator, or "Incubation"?

2012-02-02 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 12:52:33AM +0100, Leo Simons wrote: > The basic idea is to split the current single really big group that is > the incubator into smaller groups that still cooperate and discuss and > whatnot, but are accountable and overseen separately. These smaller > groups become their o

Re: [DISCUSS] - Relase Apache Clerezza 0.2-incubating (RC5)

2012-02-02 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Hi, Just clarifying: this release candidate, RC5, has not yet received any votes from anyone? Marvin Humphrey On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 02:51:41PM +0100, Reto Bachmann-Gmür wrote: > Hello, > > While the last release candidate found a lot of acceptance (3 binding +1 in > the ppmc) it had to be wi

Re: Incubator, or "Incubation"?

2012-02-02 Thread Karl Wright
I don't think one approach precludes the other. Agreed that incubator needs to keep going in the interim. Perhaps we can spin off groups one at a time, starting with just one to get the bugs worked out? Karl On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 12:52

Re: Time to vote the chair?

2012-02-02 Thread Benson Margulies
I have a lateral thought. Assuming for the moment that Chris has accepted or will accept a nomination, why not recommend *both* of us to the board as co-chairs? The IPMC is special. New members pop up all the time and need to be fed to the board; projects need karmic assistance, etc. Having two wi

Re: Time to vote the chair?

2012-02-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
For me the question is one of direction.  I think Chris is making clear the kind of course he'd like to pursue down the road. Where do you stand on that discussion? > > From: Benson Margulies >To: general@incubator.apache.org >Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012

Re: Time to vote the chair?

2012-02-02 Thread Benson Margulies
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > For me the question is one of direction.  I think > Chris is making clear the kind of course he'd like > to pursue down the road. > > Where do you stand on that discussion? I support your direction of delegating more authority to podlings by i

Re: Time to vote the chair?

2012-02-02 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 2/2/2012 8:15 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > > I support your direction of delegating more authority to podlings by > identifying qualified contributors and adding them to the IPMC. I also > support the general direction of Bill's proposal to demolish the > incubator Credit where credit is due,

[RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Lucy (incubating) 0.3.0 RC 1

2012-02-02 Thread Peter Karman
Peter Karman wrote on 1/30/12 8:51 PM: > > Apache Lucy PPMC vote thread: > > http://s.apache.org/uot > +1 Marvin Humphrey *+ +1 Chris Mattman *+ +1 Chris Hostetter *+ +1 David E. Wheeler * +1 Nick Wellnhofer * +1 Logan Bell * * indicates Lucy PPMC member + indicates Incubator

RE: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair

2012-02-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> I intend to nominate Noel J. Bergman I will leave my hat in the ring, but also note that a number of people have expressed that not only is it time to vote for the Incubator PMC Chair, but also that it is time for new, different, energy and ideas in that role. So those people would certainly pr

[ANNOUNCE] Apache Lucy (incubating) 0.3.0 released

2012-02-02 Thread Peter Karman
Greetings, The Apache Lucy team is pleased to announce the release of version 0.3.0 from the Apache Incubator! Apache Lucy is full-text search engine library written in C and targeted at dynamic languages. For a list of issues resolved in this version, please see the full changelog below: 0.3

RE: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair

2012-02-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Based on the current discussions for radically redefining the Incubator, I propose William A Rowe, Jr. for the new Incubator PMC Chair. Between Bill and Chris Mattman, they are the leading forces behind the proposed re-org, and I feel that, Bill would be the more experienced choice, and hope that

RE: Incubator, or "Incubation"?

2012-02-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> I just wanted to chime in with a +1 for the general direction. +1 from me, too. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apach

RE: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair

2012-02-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > I intend to nominate Noel J. Bergman > I will leave my hat in the ring ... But as others will have noted, if the proposed re-organization is to move forward, I personally recommend Bill Rowe for the role, or Chris Mattman if Bill won't take it. That new Incubator will

Re: Nomination of Chris Mattman for the IPMC Chair (was: Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-02 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Thanks Christian. I'll accept, thanks for your kind words, and for those of Marvin and Joe, and the comments from Benson and others. I will note that should I be elected into this role, I will state that I don't intend to be in it very long as I don't intend for it to exist much longer. Should

Re: Time to vote the chair?

2012-02-02 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Benson, I wouldn't have much problem with this, so long as I make it clear that my intention isn't to remain in the position for longer than one month, two months, whatever it takes to move towards proposal/resolution and board recommendation to dissolve the Incubator and the VP Incubator pos

Re: [VOTE] - Relase Apache Clerezza 0.2-incubating (RC5)

2012-02-02 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Reto Bachmann-Gmür wrote: > Hello, > > While the last release candidate found a lot of acceptance (3 binding +1 in > the ppmc) it had to be withdrawn because of missing or incorrect NOTICE and > license files. Also the source distribution contained the sources of mo

RE: Nomination of Chris Mattman for the IPMC Chair (was: Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Chris, > I will note that should I be elected into this role, I will state that > I don't intend to be in it very long as I don't intend for it to exist > much longer. I spoke with Bill this evening, and have indicated to him that I'd like for you and he to already start working on the re-org pro

Re: Nomination of Chris Mattman for the IPMC Chair (was: Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-02 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 2/2/2012 10:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > Thanks Christian. > > I'll accept, thanks for your kind words, and for those of Marvin and > Joe, and the comments from Benson and others. > > I will note that should I be elected into this role, I will state that > I don't intend to be in

Re: Nomination of Chris Mattman for the IPMC Chair (was: Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-02 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Noel, On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Chris, > >> I will note that should I be elected into this role, I will state that >> I don't intend to be in it very long as I don't intend for it to exist >> much longer. > > I spoke with Bill this evening, and have indicated to hi

Re: Time to vote the chair?

2012-02-02 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 2/2/2012 7:56 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > I have a lateral thought. Assuming for the moment that Chris has > accepted or will accept a nomination, why not recommend *both* of us > to the board as co-chairs? The IPMC is special. New members pop up all > the time and need to be fed to the board

Re: Nomination of Chris Mattman for the IPMC Chair (was: Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-02 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 2/2/2012 11:38 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: >> >> However, please note that the re-org still has a position that is at least >> analogous. You would not be getting off so easily. ;-) > > :) Nope, it doesn't actually. Please read the thread carefully. That is > what is being suggested

Re: Nomination of Chris Mattman for the IPMC Chair (was: Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-02 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hey Bill, On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:37 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 2/2/2012 11:38 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: >>> >>> However, please note that the re-org still has a position that is at least >>> analogous. You would not be getting off so easily. ;-) >> >> :) Nope, it doesn't actu

Re: Nomination of Chris Mattman for the IPMC Chair (was: Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-02 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Bill, On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:32 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 2/2/2012 10:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: >> Thanks Christian. >> >> I'll accept, thanks for your kind words, and for those of Marvin and >> Joe, and the comments from Benson and others. >> >> I will note that shoul

Re: [DISCUSS] Syncope to Join the Apache Incubator

2012-02-02 Thread Francesco Chicchiriccò
Hi gents, Syncope proposal [1] is still looking for more mentors: who is interested in Identity Management and wants to get involved in one of first Open Source projects in this field? Moreover, is there any ASF committer wanting to contribute as initial committer? TIA. Regards. On 31/01/2