Hey Bill,

On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:37 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:

> On 2/2/2012 11:38 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>>> 
>>> However, please note that the re-org still has a position that is at least
>>> analogous.  You would not be getting off so easily.  ;-)
>> 
>> :) Nope, it doesn't actually. Please read the thread carefully. That is 
>> what is being suggested by Bill and by Greg, but I see room to convince
>> them otherwise. I think they'll see the light. 
> 
> You don't need to convince me :)  You would need to convince the board,
> and I don't expect them to be receptive.  I would rather go forward with
> a VP, Project Incubation than to have the board dismiss the proposal out
> of hand, if that's how they would have it.

Well that's a good question isn't it. 

A quick check of the current board:

http://apache.org/foundation/board/

        • Shane Curcuru
        • Doug Cutting (chairman)
        • Bertrand Delacretaz
        • Roy T. Fielding
        • Jim Jagielski
        • Brett Porter
        • Lawrence Rosen
        • Sam Ruby
        • Greg Stein

A quick check of the Incubator PMC against current board membership:

http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#incubator-pmc

Shane [check]
Doug [check]
Roy [no]
Jim [check]
Brett [check]
Larry [no]
Sam [check]
Greg [check]

So that's 7 of 9 board members that are on the Incubator PMC, and
a good chance they are here now, and reading this.

What do Board members think? IPMC hats on? Great. Board 
hats on? Great too. Would be great to get opinions now 
rather than have to wait. 

And to be honest, even if you (Bill) or the board folks think
that there should be an Incubation VP, are you willing to at least
try it my way, and then if all hell breaks loose, simply add the role
in 6 months (or sooner, if required?) IOW, we accept my proposal asi-is.
Then in 6 months, we'll see how it's working out, and I'll tell you what, 
if we need an Incubation VP then, I'll be all for it, and even willing to sign 
up for it.

Cheers,
Chris

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Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
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