Re: [PROPOSAL] Deft for incubation

2011-07-05 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Sorry to interrupt this technical discussion, but I believe that now we are ready to go for a [VOTE] ? On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Roger Schildmeijer schildmei...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, Been examining the asyncweb project in more details (atleast the asyncweb.client and

Re: [PROPOSAL] Deft for incubation

2011-07-05 Thread Emmanuel Lecharny
On 7/5/11 12:12 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: Sorry to interrupt this technical discussion, but I believe that now we are ready to go for a [VOTE] ? Was thinking the same... -- Regards, Cordialement, Emmanuel Lécharny www.iktek.com

Re: [PROPOSAL] Deft for incubation

2011-07-05 Thread Niklas Gustavsson
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry to interrupt this technical discussion, but I believe that now we are ready to go for a [VOTE] ? Agreed. I'll start a new thread. /niklas

[VOTE] Deft to join the incubator

2011-07-05 Thread Niklas Gustavsson
Hi, With three mentors graciously signed up and the discussion around the proposal settling, it's time for a vote on Deft joining the incubator. The latest proposal can be found below, or in the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DeftProposal For discussions:

Re: [VOTE] Deft to join the incubator

2011-07-05 Thread Ashish
[X] +1 Accept Deft for incubation On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Niklas Gustavsson nik...@protocol7.comwrote: Hi, With three mentors graciously signed up and the discussion around the proposal settling, it's time for a vote on Deft joining the incubator. The latest proposal can be found

Re: [VOTE] Deft to join the incubator

2011-07-05 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
+1 (binding) On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Ashish paliwalash...@gmail.com wrote: [X] +1 Accept Deft for incubation On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Niklas Gustavsson nik...@protocol7.comwrote: Hi, With three mentors graciously signed up and the discussion around the proposal settling,

Re: [VOTE] Deft to join the incubator

2011-07-05 Thread Emmanuel Lecharny
On 7/5/11 12:35 PM, Niklas Gustavsson wrote: [X] +1 Accept Deft for incubation (binding) -- Regards, Cordialement, Emmanuel Lécharny www.iktek.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For

launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Benson Margulies
I'm relatively new at mentoring, and I'm writing to solicit advice from older hands on the early phases of community construction. I'm looking at a podling with 7 initial contributors, running since Nov 2010. No new contributors have been voted in, or even discussed. Or even seen, I think, on the

[VOTE] Release Apache Rave 0.1-incubating

2011-07-05 Thread Franklin, Matthew B.
This is the first incubator release for Apache Rave, with the artifacts being versioned as 0.1-incubating. We are requesting a lazy consensus vote, as we have already received 3 binding IPMC +1 votes during the release voting on rave-dev - Vote thread:

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 7/5/2011 7:36 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: Anyhow, what do other think? Should mentors be pushing early and often on this subject, or is it reasonable wait for, oh, 18 months and a few releases before getting pushy? 18 months and 'a few releases', with no obstacle but attracting more

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Benson Margulies
I wasn't clear on the timing. They launched in Nov 2010 and have made one release. It will be 18 months in June of 2012. the question I was trying to explore was, 'how essential is it to have shown that they can attract and integrate new people before hatching?' Your answer seems to be 'not

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Upayavira
I personally would say that bringing in new people is important. It is an important part of showing your project to be viable, that it is interesting enough to draw in new talent. Otherwise it is going to rely permanently on the existing committers, which is not long term viable. If a project,

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote: ...If a project, during an 18 month incubation, cannot draw in new blood, how can we believe that it will do so as a TLP? Marketing of the project, getting it known, getting people using it enough so as to draw in new blood, is

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Benson Margulies
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote: ...If a project, during an 18 month incubation, cannot draw in new blood, how can we believe that it will do so as a TLP? Marketing of the

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Given the context you explained then I have to say I agree with both Bertrand and Upayavira. On the other hand, I don't see any harm not graduating from the Incubator and the project staying there for longer time till the criteria of having more new blood into the project is satisfied, and

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Ross Gardler
On 5 July 2011 14:07, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote: ...If a project, during an 18 month incubation, cannot draw in new blood, how

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Benson Margulies
No secret here. It's OpenNLP. On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 5 July 2011 14:07, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:52 PM,

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 7/5/2011 7:45 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: I wasn't clear on the timing. They launched in Nov 2010 and have made one release. It will be 18 months in June of 2012. the question I was trying to explore was, 'how essential is it to have shown that they can attract and integrate new people

Re: [VOTE] Deft to join the incubator

2011-07-05 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
+1 binding Regards, Alan On Jul 5, 2011, at 3:35 AM, Niklas Gustavsson wrote: Hi, With three mentors graciously signed up and the discussion around the proposal settling, it's time for a vote on Deft joining the incubator. The latest proposal can be found below, or in the wiki:

Re: [VOTE] Deft to join the incubator

2011-07-05 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Niklas Gustavsson nik...@protocol7.com wrote: Please cast your votes: [X ] +1 Accept Deft for incubation [  ] +0 Indifferent to Deft incubation [  ] -1 Reject Deft for incubation (binding) Robert

Re: [VOTE] Retire ALOIS podling

2011-07-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Hen, To confirm, will you be doing the following steps: * Investigate whether the source was covered by CLAs. * If so then update the web page before moving to retired. * Otherwise delete the source from svn.

Re: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-07-05 Thread Henri Yandell
+1 to retire (non-binding). What worries me is that Chen is talking about a 4th release while the website doesn't record the Copyright or Verify distribution rights as having been completed. +1 (non-binding) to remove the source from SVN upon retirement due to the Copyright action items not

Re: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-07-05 Thread Jack Cai
I have been on vacation since last week and missed this hot discussion. I think BlueSky is a valuable project and the proposers/contributors all have good intention to make the project successful here. I also understand that due to the special way that the project operates (short term students as

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache log4php 2.1.0 (RC2)

2011-07-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Friendly reminder - we still need one more +1 from a PMC for this release. If somebody has the time to check it out, please feel free :-) Thanks in advance! Christian On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Ivan Habunek ivan.habu...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, It is my pleasure to announce the

Re: [VOTE] Retire ALOIS podling

2011-07-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Do you have any tipps how I can make sure the source is covered by the CLAs? As I understood we just have the initial import in SVN. All committers have CLAs on file. Is that enough? It depends on who the copyright owners/licensees of the original import were. Identify that set, then remove

Re: [VOTE] Retire ALOIS podling

2011-07-05 Thread Craig L Russell
There is a grant on file (documents/grants/imsec-alois.pdf) from IMSEC GmbH for ALOIS (code and all documentation) dated 4-Oct-2010. This plus some elbow grease should allow a mentor to definitively establish provenance of the code... Craig On Jul 5, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Christian Grobmeier

[RESULT][VOTE] Retire Stonehenge

2011-07-05 Thread Daniel Kulp
There are a bunch of +1 votes: (9 binding, 2 non-binding) binding: dims, noel, gianugo, adc, kevan, tommaso, sanjiva, struberg, mnour non-binding: kamaljit, bayard And a +0 from prhodes I'll start working on closing things down shortly. Thanks! Dan On Wednesday, June 22, 2011

Project shutdown guide?

2011-07-05 Thread Daniel Kulp
Is there a list someplace of the steps to take to shutdown a project?On the website, I see entry guides, podling guides, graduation guides, etc but not a shutdown/termination guide. -- Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org http://dankulp.com/blog Talend - http://www.talend.com

Re: [VOTE] Deft to join the incubator

2011-07-05 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 (binding) LieGrue, strub --- On Tue, 7/5/11, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: From: Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VOTE] Deft to join the incubator To: general@incubator.apache.org Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2011, 3:23 PM On Tue,

[RESULT][VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-07-05 Thread Bernd Fondermann
Hi everyone, The vote to retire Bluesky succeeds with only +1 votes from Martijn, Emmanuel, Bernd, Niklas, Tommaso, Bertrand, Chris, Ralph, Christian, Noel, Luciano, Alan, Upayavira, Ross, Benson, Craig, Greg, William (binding) and Andreas Kuckartz, Kalle Korhonen, Henry Saputra (non-binding).

Re: [VOTE] Retire ALOIS podling

2011-07-05 Thread Henri Yandell
Seems good. Once said grease is applied, we should update the website to sign off on copyright; then close down the podling. Hen On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com wrote: There is a grant on file (documents/grants/imsec-alois.pdf) from IMSEC GmbH for

Re: Project shutdown guide?

2011-07-05 Thread Henri Yandell
Currently I'd describe it as: http://attic.apache.org/process.html + * Check copyright checkbox is signed off on. ** If not, then dig in to see if it can be signed off on. *** If so, sign off with current date. *** If not, remove source. Hen On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Daniel Kulp

Re: [VOTE] Oozie to join the Incubator

2011-07-05 Thread Eric Sammer
+1 (non-binding) On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Mohammad Islam misla...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi All, The discussion about Oozie proposal is settling down. Therefore I would like to initiate a vote to accept Oozie as an Apache Incubator project. The latest proposal is pasted at the end and

Re: [VOTE] Release Hama 0.3-incubating (RC2)

2011-07-05 Thread Stefan Seelmann
Hi Edward, I found an issue which is a blocker IMO: jsp-2.1-6.1.4.jar and jsp-api-2.1-6.1.4.jar from Jetty are included. To my knowlege they are licensed under CDDL*. This is a Category B [4] license so either - add the license [1] and the notice excerp [2] to the Hama LICENSE and NOTICE files or

Re: [VOTE] Release Hama 0.3-incubating (RC2)

2011-07-05 Thread Edward J. Yoon
Hi, Stefan Thanks for your review. I've added CDDLv1.0 license and notice. http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/hama/branches/0.3/NOTICE.txt http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/hama/branches/0.3/LICENSE.txt Could you please check the files again? Thanks. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 6:57