On Jan 7, 2015, at 8:18 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
What has changed in the
last year and a half is that we no longer ignore it when podlings fail to
report -- we put them into monthly and review the situation month to month.
Between that and requiring Mentor
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
We do have problems; see above.
To address our problems, I advocate incremental, reversible changes and
controlled experiments.
With that said, my proposal is not a radical overhaul.
There are parts of it I can get
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
Some podlings are graduating w/ no clear understanding of the Apache Way.
What is The Apache Way? No one can say.
There is no bounded set of expectations that an Apache project must fulfill.
Where do Apache's
Alan, thanks for the clarification. I agree that this is in the
context of podling/ incubator projects.
- Henry
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
On Jan 7, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com wrote:
One wording that could confuse
On 07.01.2015 22:45, Henry Saputra wrote:
If a mentor asked to stay as PMC after graduation just for the sake of
continue mentoring,
then I would argue that the podling was not ready for graduation. A
graduated TLP inviting the former mentor to the PMC is a different
matter, but then the IPMC
On Jan 7, 2015, at 12:13 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MentorRebootProposal
From that page:
People who wish to become mentors that are not in the IPMC
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MentorRebootProposal
From that page:
People who wish to become mentors that are not in the IPMC must be a
novice mentor, whose mentorship is not counted as an active mentor,
On Jan 7, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015, at 06:46 PM, jan i wrote:
On 7 January 2015 at 19:32, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
On Jan 7, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote:
On 07.01.2015 18:42, Alan D.
On Jan 7, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
The Incubator has made important progress.
I want to quickly acknowledge that we have made immense, immense, progress
thanks in no small part to our IPMC chairs over the years. A lot of hard work
was done and that
One wording that could confuse people:
after which they are removed from the PMC unless they are committers.
If someone already a PMC, he or she is also a committer. In ASF a
committer is someone who can commit code into the repository.
If a mentor asked to stay as PMC after graduation just for
On Jan 7, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com wrote:
One wording that could confuse people:
after which they are removed from the PMC unless they are committers.
If someone already a PMC, he or she is also a committer. In ASF a
committer is someone who can commit code
+1
I would recommend to remove that particular line about mentor staying
as mentor sake.
Either mentors join in as full fledge PMC (and as committer) or not at all.
- Henry
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote:
On 07.01.2015 22:45, Henry Saputra wrote:
If a
On 07.01.2015 18:42, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
I’ve written up a more comprehensive proposal that would not only hold
mentors accountable but also give them a fair bit of autonomous authority
during releases.
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MentorRebootProposal
On Jan 7, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote:
On 07.01.2015 18:42, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
I’ve written up a more comprehensive proposal that would not only hold
mentors accountable but also give them a fair bit of autonomous authority
during releases.
On 7 January 2015 at 19:32, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
On Jan 7, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote:
On 07.01.2015 18:42, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
I’ve written up a more comprehensive proposal that would not only hold
mentors accountable but also give
I’ve written up a more comprehensive proposal that would not only hold mentors
accountable but also give them a fair bit of autonomous authority during
releases.
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MentorRebootProposal
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MentorRebootProposal
What we would gain is
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