Re: [VOTE] Accept HAWQ into the Apache Incubator

[Caleb Welton]

+1 (non-binding)

Caleb

> On Aug 31, 2015, at 8:47 AM, Roman Shaposhnik  wrote:
> 
> Following the discussion earlier:
>   http://s.apache.org/Gaf
> 
> I would like to call a VOTE for accepting HAWQ
> as a new incubator project.
> 
> The proposal is available at:
>https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HAWQProposal
> and is also included at the bottom of this email.
> 
> Vote is open until at least Thu, 3 September 2015, 23:59:00 PST
> 
> [ ] +1 accept HAWQ into the Apache Incubator
> [ ] ±0
> [ ] -1 because...
> 
> Thanks,
> Roman.
> 
> == Abstract ==
> 
> HAWQ is an advanced enterprise SQL on Hadoop analytic engine built
> around a robust and high-performance massively-parallel processing
> (MPP) SQL framework evolved from Pivotal Greenplum DatabaseⓇ.
> 
> HAWQ runs natively on Apache HadoopⓇ clusters by tightly integrating
> with HDFS and YARN. HAWQ supports multiple Hadoop file formats such as
> Apache Parquet, native HDFS, and Apache Avro. HAWQ is configured and
> managed as a Hadoop service in Apache Ambari. HAWQ is 100% ANSI SQL
> compliant (supporting ANSI SQL-92, SQL-99, and SQL-2003, plus OLAP
> extensions) and supports open database connectivity (ODBC) and Java
> database connectivity (JDBC), as well. Most business intelligence,
> data analysis and data visualization tools work with HAWQ out of the
> box without the need for specialized drivers.
> 
> A unique aspect of HAWQ is its integration of statistical and machine
> learning capabilities that can be natively invoked from SQL or (in the
> context of PL/Python, PL/Java or PL/R) in massively parallel modes and
> applied to large data sets across a Hadoop cluster. These capabilities
> are provided through MADlib – an existing open source, parallel
> machine-learning library. Given the close ties between the two
> development communities, the MADlib community has expressed interest
> in joining HAWQ on its journey into the ASF Incubator and will be
> submitting a separate, concurrent proposal.
> 
> HAWQ will provide more robust and higher performing options for Hadoop
> environments that demand best-in-class data analytics for business
> critical purposes. HAWQ is implemented in C and C++.
> 
> HAWQ has a few runtime dependencies licensed under the Cat X list:
>  * gperf (GPL Version 3)
>  * libgsasl (LGPL Version 2.1)
>  * libuuid-2.26 (LGPL Version 2)
> However, given the runtime (dynamic linking) nature of these
> dependencies it doesn't represent a problem for HAWQ to be considered
> an ASF project.
> 
> == Proposal ==
> The goal of this proposal is to bring the core of Pivotal Software,
> Inc.’s (Pivotal) Pivotal HAWQⓇ codebase into the Apache Software
> Foundation (ASF) in order to build a vibrant, diverse and
> self-governed open source community around the technology. Pivotal has
> agreed to transfer the brand name "HAWQ" to Apache Software Foundation
> and will stop using HAWQ to refer to this software if the project gets
> accepted into the ASF Incubator under the name of "Apache HAWQ
> (incubating)". Pivotal will continue to market and sell an analytic
> engine product that includes Apache HAWQ (incubating). While HAWQ is
> our primary choice for a name of the project, in anticipation of any
> potential issues with PODLINGNAMESEARCH we have come up with two
> alternative names: (1) Hornet; or (2) Grove.
> 
> Pivotal is submitting this proposal to donate the HAWQ source code and
> associated artifacts (documentation, web site content, wiki, etc.) to
> the Apache Software Foundation Incubator under the Apache License,
> Version 2.0 and is asking Incubator PMC to establish an open source
> community.
> 
> == Background ==
> While the ecosystem of open source SQL-on-Hadoop solutions is fairly
> developed by now, HAWQ has several unique features that will set it
> apart from existing ASF and non-ASF projects. HAWQ made its debut in
> 2013 as a closed source product leveraging a decade's worth of product
> development effort invested in Greenplum DatabaseⓇ. Since then HAWQ
> has rapidly gained a solid customer base and became available on
> non-Pivotal distributions of Hadoop.
> In 2015 HAWQ still leverages the rock solid foundation of Greenplum
> Database, while at the same time embracing elasticity and resource
> management native to Hadoop applications. This allows HAWQ to provide
> superior SQL on Hadoop performance, scalability and coverage while
> also providing massively-parallel machine learning capabilities and
> support for native Hadoop file formats. In addition, HAWQ's advanced
> features include support for complex joins, rich and compliant SQL
> dialect and industry-differentiating data federation capabilities.
> Dynamic pipelining and pluggable query optimizer architecture enable
> HAWQ to perform queries on Hadoop with the speed and scalability
> required for enterprise data warehouse (EDW) workloads. HAWQ provides
> strong support for low-latency analytic SQL queries, coupled with
> massively parallel 

Re: Question related to IP Clearance and software grant

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

Hi Alex,

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 9:17 PM, Alex Harui  wrote:
> ...2) Who are the initial committers?  If there is any such requirement that
> initial committers must be folks who wrote the code, then Flex was
> certainly an exception

There's no such requirement on the ASF side.

-Bertrand

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Re: Calcite graduation review

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 6:13 AM, Ted Dunning  wrote:
> ...I was the one who suggested an outside mentor review. My thought is that
> given the hullabaloo that accompanies some graduation votes, it would be
> good to have somebody from a different incubator sub-culture to look at the
> project

One thing that was also recently discussed is to have podlings
self-assess their compliance with
https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html

If Calcite volunteers to do that, that would be very cool IMO, as a
way to test the idea.

A wiki page that lists the maturity model items with a brief comment
from the podling and mentors about compliance would be very useful,
and its text can be included in the graduation vote.

-Bertrand

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wiki access for publishing incubator report

[Swapnil Bawaskar]

Hi,
Can someone please grant me permission to publish incubation report for
GEODE. My username is: SwapnilBawaskar

Thanks!

[VOTE] Release Apache Kylin-1.0-incubating

[Luke Han]

Hi all,

The Apache Kylin community has voted on and approved a proposal to release
Apache Kylin 1.0 (incubating).

We already have applied some suggestion
in last vote attempt, please refer to below vote mail thread for detail.

Proposal:
http://s.apache.org/kylin-1.0-rc2-vote

Vote result:
http://s.apache.org/kylin-1.0-rc2-result

8 binding +1 votes
5 non-binding +1 votes
No -1 votes


The commit to be voted upon:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/ef067de4ae43303c015118ad39a9aba7172bc250

Its hash is ef067de4ae43303c015118ad39a9aba7172bc250.

The artifacts to be voted on are located here:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/kylin/apache-kylin-1.0-incubating-rc2

The hashes of the artifacts are as follows:
src.tar.gz.md5 0789a032965f1a2686adac738a905378
src.tar.gz.sha1 d7cc894cbd3cbc606aabcb0cbf3fb728044e55f1

A staged Maven repository is available for review at:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekylin-1011/

Release artifacts are signed with the following key:
https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lukehan.asc

Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy and with
the endorsement of our mentors we would now like to request
the permission of the Incubator PMC to publish the release. The vote
is open for 72 hours, or until the necessary number of votes (3 +1)
is reached.

[ ] +1 Release this package
[ ]  0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...

+1 from Luke

Luke Han, on behalf of Apache Kylin PPMC

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

[Louis Suárez-Potts]

> On 02 Sep 15, at 10:28, toki  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 02/09/15 10:25, John D. Ament wrote:
> 
>> I'd like to bring to your attention the ODF Toolkit podling.
> 
> This project has been torn between going to the attic, or becoming a
> sub-project of another project, since at least January 2014.
> 
> IMNSHO, it should go to the attic, with Apache Corinthia picking up
> whatever code ODF Toolkit created that it (Corinthia) can use.

I’d agree. Far as I can tell, the only substantial difference for ODF Toolkit 
would be that no one would have to not write non-reports nor would anyone have 
to agonise over what has not been done.

Plus, Corinthia could benefit by attracting more interest among those 
interested in ODF.

-louis
> 
> jonathon
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Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

[jan i]

On 2 September 2015 at 17:11, Louis Suárez-Potts  wrote:

>
> > On 02 Sep 15, at 10:28, toki  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 02/09/15 10:25, John D. Ament wrote:
> >
> >> I'd like to bring to your attention the ODF Toolkit podling.
> >
> > This project has been torn between going to the attic, or becoming a
> > sub-project of another project, since at least January 2014.
> >
> > IMNSHO, it should go to the attic, with Apache Corinthia picking up
> > whatever code ODF Toolkit created that it (Corinthia) can use.
>
> I’d agree. Far as I can tell, the only substantial difference for ODF
> Toolkit would be that no one would have to not write non-reports nor would
> anyone have to agonise over what has not been done.
>
> Plus, Corinthia could benefit by attracting more interest among those
> interested in ODF.
>
As far as I can see ODF Toolkit is written in Java, so it is not that easy
to use the code.

The philosophy of ODF Toolkit also seems quite different than the
filters/lenses of Corinthia.

But of course corinthia need all the positive attention it can get.

rgds
jan i

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[DISCUSS] MADlib Incubation Proposal

[Roman Shaposhnik]

Hi!

on the heels of the HAWQ proposal, I'd like
to follow with a discussion of accepting MADlib's
community into the ASF Incubator:
 https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MADlibProposal

There was an extensive discussion within the existing
open source community and the overall consensus
is extremely supportive of this proposal:
http://madlib.net/pipermail/user/2015-August/
http://madlib.net/pipermail/devel/2015-August/

We've done quite a bit of outreach in order to identify
all the folks who may be interested in joining the initial
list of committers. The current proposal reflects that.
Additionally, we hope that the ASF DISCUSS thread
will help us in reaching out even further.

Finally, while 3 experienced mentors currently mentioned
on the proposal seems like a reasonable number, we would
love if other folks from IPMC could volunteer to help us on
this journey.

Thanks,
Roman.

== Abstract ==
MADlib is an open-source library (licensed under 2-clause BSD license)
for scalable in-database analytics. It provides data-parallel
implementations of mathematical, statistical and machine learning
methods for structured and unstructured data. The MADlib mission is to
foster widespread development of scalable analytic skills, by
harnessing efforts from commercial practice, academic research, and
open source development.

MADlib occupies a unique niche in the realm of data science and
machine learning libraries since its SQL APIs can allow it to work on
a wide range of data stores and SQL engines.

== Proposal ==
The current open source community behind MADlib feels that aligning
itself with HAWQ's community, governance model, infrastructure and
roadmap will allow the project to accelerate adoption and community
growth. Given HAWQ's trajectory of entering Apache Software Foundation
family as an Incubating project, we feel that the best course of
action for MADlib is to follow a similar route.

MADlib and HAWQ are complementary technologies in that MADlib
in-database analytical functions can run within the HAWQ execution
engine. (MADlib also runs on Greenplum Database and PostgreSQL today.)
It is expected that contributors to MADlib will be cognizant of the
HAWQ ASF project and may contribute to it as well.  In short,
collaboration between the two communities will make both projects more
vibrant and advance the respective technologies in potentially novel
directions.

Contributors may also look at the HAWQ project as a starting port for
ports to other parallel database engines. This proposal highly
encourages this type of work as it would help to further realize the
original cross-platform goal of MADlib as envisioned by its
originators.

Thus, the goal of this proposal is to bring the existing MADlib open
source community into ASF, change the project's governance model to
the "Apache Way" and transition the project's codebase and
infrastructure into ASF INFRA. The community has agreed to transfer
the brand name "MADlib" to Apache Software Foundation as well.

Pivotal Inc. on behalf of the MADlib open source community is
submitting this proposal to transition source code and associated
artifacts (documentation, web site content, wiki, etc.) to the Apache
Software Foundation Incubator under the Apache License, Version 2.0
and is asking Incubator PMC to established a MADlib incubating
project.

Currently MADlib uses a few category X licensed software tools during
its build (mostly for generating documentation):
   * doxypy 0.4.2 (GPL)
   * doxygen 1.8.4 (GPL)
   * TikZ-UML
   * bison 2.4 (GPL, with an exception for generated output)
We feel that this usage is compatible with an overall project licensed
under the ALv2 and don't anticipate any changes.
Our usage of LGPL library cern_root-5.34 is expected to go away since
the 2 cern modules used are being entirely re-written
in MADlib

Finally, MADlib inclusion of MPL licensed library (eigen 3.2.2) into
its binary artifact seems to be consistent with
ASF recommendation for managing "weak copyleft" dependencies.


== Background ==
MADlib grew out of discussions between database engine developers,
data scientists, IT architects and academics interested in new
approaches to scalable, sophisticated in-database analytics. These
discussions were written up in a paper in VLDB 2009 that coined the
term “MAD Skills” for data analysis
(http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1687576). The MADlib software
project began the following year as a collaboration between
researchers at UC Berkeley and engineers and data scientists at
Pivotal (former EMC/Greenplum).

The initial MADlib codebase came from EMC/Greenplum, UC Berkeley, the
University of Wisconsin, and the University of Florida.  The project
was publicly documented in a paper at VLDB 2012
(http://vldb.org/pvldb/vol5/p1700_joehellerstein_vldb2012.pdf).  Today
MADlib has contributors from around the world including both
individuals and institutions.  For example, recent contributions have
come from Pivotal, Stanford 

Re: [DISCUSS] MADlib Incubation Proposal

[Atri Sharma]

I am very happy to see this proposal.

I think combination of HAWQ and MADlib makes it possible to have heavy
production level analytics on top of Hadoop (which is fantastic!).

That said, given MADlib 's flexibility, I feel it would be a great addition
to Apache big data stack in general and I am eagerly looking forward to
integration efforts with various existing Apache big data members.

Regards,

Atri
On 3 Sep 2015 02:07, "Roman Shaposhnik"  wrote:

> Hi!
>
> on the heels of the HAWQ proposal, I'd like
> to follow with a discussion of accepting MADlib's
> community into the ASF Incubator:
>  https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MADlibProposal
>
> There was an extensive discussion within the existing
> open source community and the overall consensus
> is extremely supportive of this proposal:
> http://madlib.net/pipermail/user/2015-August/
> http://madlib.net/pipermail/devel/2015-August/
>
> We've done quite a bit of outreach in order to identify
> all the folks who may be interested in joining the initial
> list of committers. The current proposal reflects that.
> Additionally, we hope that the ASF DISCUSS thread
> will help us in reaching out even further.
>
> Finally, while 3 experienced mentors currently mentioned
> on the proposal seems like a reasonable number, we would
> love if other folks from IPMC could volunteer to help us on
> this journey.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
> == Abstract ==
> MADlib is an open-source library (licensed under 2-clause BSD license)
> for scalable in-database analytics. It provides data-parallel
> implementations of mathematical, statistical and machine learning
> methods for structured and unstructured data. The MADlib mission is to
> foster widespread development of scalable analytic skills, by
> harnessing efforts from commercial practice, academic research, and
> open source development.
>
> MADlib occupies a unique niche in the realm of data science and
> machine learning libraries since its SQL APIs can allow it to work on
> a wide range of data stores and SQL engines.
>
> == Proposal ==
> The current open source community behind MADlib feels that aligning
> itself with HAWQ's community, governance model, infrastructure and
> roadmap will allow the project to accelerate adoption and community
> growth. Given HAWQ's trajectory of entering Apache Software Foundation
> family as an Incubating project, we feel that the best course of
> action for MADlib is to follow a similar route.
>
> MADlib and HAWQ are complementary technologies in that MADlib
> in-database analytical functions can run within the HAWQ execution
> engine. (MADlib also runs on Greenplum Database and PostgreSQL today.)
> It is expected that contributors to MADlib will be cognizant of the
> HAWQ ASF project and may contribute to it as well.  In short,
> collaboration between the two communities will make both projects more
> vibrant and advance the respective technologies in potentially novel
> directions.
>
> Contributors may also look at the HAWQ project as a starting port for
> ports to other parallel database engines. This proposal highly
> encourages this type of work as it would help to further realize the
> original cross-platform goal of MADlib as envisioned by its
> originators.
>
> Thus, the goal of this proposal is to bring the existing MADlib open
> source community into ASF, change the project's governance model to
> the "Apache Way" and transition the project's codebase and
> infrastructure into ASF INFRA. The community has agreed to transfer
> the brand name "MADlib" to Apache Software Foundation as well.
>
> Pivotal Inc. on behalf of the MADlib open source community is
> submitting this proposal to transition source code and associated
> artifacts (documentation, web site content, wiki, etc.) to the Apache
> Software Foundation Incubator under the Apache License, Version 2.0
> and is asking Incubator PMC to established a MADlib incubating
> project.
>
> Currently MADlib uses a few category X licensed software tools during
> its build (mostly for generating documentation):
>* doxypy 0.4.2 (GPL)
>* doxygen 1.8.4 (GPL)
>* TikZ-UML
>* bison 2.4 (GPL, with an exception for generated output)
> We feel that this usage is compatible with an overall project licensed
> under the ALv2 and don't anticipate any changes.
> Our usage of LGPL library cern_root-5.34 is expected to go away since
> the 2 cern modules used are being entirely re-written
> in MADlib
>
> Finally, MADlib inclusion of MPL licensed library (eigen 3.2.2) into
> its binary artifact seems to be consistent with
> ASF recommendation for managing "weak copyleft" dependencies.
>
>
> == Background ==
> MADlib grew out of discussions between database engine developers,
> data scientists, IT architects and academics interested in new
> approaches to scalable, sophisticated in-database analytics. These
> discussions were written up in a paper in VLDB 2009 that coined the
> term “MAD Skills” for data 

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Sep 2015 ([ppmc])

[Roman Shaposhnik]

I am a little confused as to why DataFU is on the report schedule
when we reported last month.

Can anyone, please let me know?

Thanks,
Roman.

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Marvin  wrote:
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>
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>
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> PMC.
> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly
> board report.
>
> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 16 September 2015, 10:30 am PST. The 
> report
> for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The Incubator 
> PMC
> requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks before the board meeting, to 
> allow
> sufficient time for review and submission (Wed, Sep 2nd).
>
> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC, and
> subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you
> should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board meeting.
>
> Thanks,
>
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>graduation.
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> of
>  * How has the community developed since the last report
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>
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Re: Same for Kalumet

[John D. Ament]

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:52 PM Roman Shaposhnik 
wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 3:35 AM, John D. Ament 
> wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > Looking at the archives, it seems that Kalumet has been monthly for a
> > while, missing June, July and August now.  There is 0 activity on all
> MLs,
> > public and private.
> >
> > I'm not sure there are any signs of life on this podling and am wondering
> > how to proceed.
>
> I would suggest, simultaneously, reaching out to the community AND reaching
> out to personal email addresses of mentors to ask that very same question.
>

Actually they responded pretty quickly.  They're starting a retirement
vote...


>
> I was doing some of that 'taking of the pulse' when I was IPMC Chair, but
> it
> really doesn't have to be anybody formally appointed doing that. In fact,
> the entire IPMC should be empowered to ask those same sort of questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
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Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Sep 2015 ([ppmc])

[Marvin Humphrey]

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Roman Shaposhnik  wrote:
> I am a little confused as to why DataFU is on the report schedule
> when we reported last month.
>
> Can anyone, please let me know?

Looks like the a glitch in the record keeping. DataFu's last report
was due in July but was delayed one month (which is fine) and as a
result they got the "monthly" tag added.  It should have been removed
after the report was filed in August but that didn't happen.  I've
updated podlings.xml; the next report will be due in October.

Cheers,

Marvin Humphrey

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Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

[Ian C]

Hi All,

I wrote the last none mentor signed off report for the ODF Toolit.

It has been, is, very quiet, but I believe there are a number of users
out there.
I'm not sure on the numbers or the details. It would be a shame to
alienate them.
Whatever we do let's try to make sure they understand what is happening.

As for moving the code under the Corinthia banner (I am a committer on
Corinthia - not on ODF toolkit) whilst I think they have common ground
they are quite different beasts.
And, as Jan pointed out, based on different language technologies.

I don't know how to inject life into it. I have raised the issue a few
time with little or no response.
There are some technical things I can see that would be good to do and
a list of JIRA items to be addressed.
But we need people on board to address them.

Before moving it to the attic is there anything that can be done to
publicise the need for people and try to attract them?
I would love to see it continue.


On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 11:17 PM, jan i  wrote:
> On 2 September 2015 at 17:11, Louis Suárez-Potts  wrote:
>
>>
>> > On 02 Sep 15, at 10:28, toki  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 02/09/15 10:25, John D. Ament wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'd like to bring to your attention the ODF Toolkit podling.
>> >
>> > This project has been torn between going to the attic, or becoming a
>> > sub-project of another project, since at least January 2014.
>> >
>> > IMNSHO, it should go to the attic, with Apache Corinthia picking up
>> > whatever code ODF Toolkit created that it (Corinthia) can use.
>>
>> I’d agree. Far as I can tell, the only substantial difference for ODF
>> Toolkit would be that no one would have to not write non-reports nor would
>> anyone have to agonise over what has not been done.
>>
>> Plus, Corinthia could benefit by attracting more interest among those
>> interested in ODF.
>>
> As far as I can see ODF Toolkit is written in Java, so it is not that easy
> to use the code.
>
> The philosophy of ODF Toolkit also seems quite different than the
> filters/lenses of Corinthia.
>
> But of course corinthia need all the positive attention it can get.
>
> rgds
> jan i
>
>>
>> -louis
>> >
>> > jonathon
>> >
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Shepherd notes for ODF Toolkit

[John D. Ament]

All,

I'm adding some shepherd notes for ODF Toolkit.  I think my main concern is
lack of mentor participation on the project.  Rob Weir (I swear every time
I type his name I type the d) has taken a mentor role on the project, but
doesn't seem to be in podlings.xml.  I'm not too worried about this, but
can we add him to podlings.xml (if so, I'll add him)?

It may help the project to bring in an extra mentor, I'd like to volunteer
to help out to get things moving but wanted to get input from the incubator
and the podling on their thoughts.  If there are others who are interested
it may help to look at all options.

John

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

[Louis Suárez-Potts]

> On 02 Sep 15, at 21:51, Ian C  wrote:
> 
> Before moving it to the attic is there anything that can be done to
> publicise the need for people and try to attract them?
> I would love to see it continue.

The philosophical issues—differences, they’re pretty deep—as well as the 
technological preferences, make stitching ODF Toolkit onto Corinthia a problem. 
One could also suggest adding it to AOO. In fact, that’d be a more logical fit.

As to reviving the actual podling. There is the upcoming ODF Plugfest. 
Attendees, participants include stakeholders in ODF, at least those with travel 
grants.

louis
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RE: ODF Toolkit may need help

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Ian,

I recall prospects for some cooperation with POI back when the ODF Toolkit came 
over for incubation.  POI is also Java based and deals with Zip-carried 
document formats and maybe some conversions, at least within the Microsoft 
Office document models.

 - Dennis

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From: Ian C [mailto:i...@apache.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 18:52
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

Hi All,

I wrote the last none mentor signed off report for the ODF Toolit.

It has been, is, very quiet, but I believe there are a number of users
out there.
I'm not sure on the numbers or the details. It would be a shame to
alienate them.
Whatever we do let's try to make sure they understand what is happening.

As for moving the code under the Corinthia banner (I am a committer on
Corinthia - not on ODF toolkit) whilst I think they have common ground
they are quite different beasts.
And, as Jan pointed out, based on different language technologies.

I don't know how to inject life into it. I have raised the issue a few
time with little or no response.
There are some technical things I can see that would be good to do and
a list of JIRA items to be addressed.
But we need people on board to address them.

Before moving it to the attic is there anything that can be done to
publicise the need for people and try to attract them?
I would love to see it continue.


On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 11:17 PM, jan i  wrote:
> On 2 September 2015 at 17:11, Louis Suárez-Potts  wrote:
>
>>
>> > On 02 Sep 15, at 10:28, toki  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 02/09/15 10:25, John D. Ament wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'd like to bring to your attention the ODF Toolkit podling.
>> >
>> > This project has been torn between going to the attic, or becoming a
>> > sub-project of another project, since at least January 2014.
>> >
>> > IMNSHO, it should go to the attic, with Apache Corinthia picking up
>> > whatever code ODF Toolkit created that it (Corinthia) can use.
>>
>> I’d agree. Far as I can tell, the only substantial difference for ODF
>> Toolkit would be that no one would have to not write non-reports nor would
>> anyone have to agonise over what has not been done.
>>
>> Plus, Corinthia could benefit by attracting more interest among those
>> interested in ODF.
>>
> As far as I can see ODF Toolkit is written in Java, so it is not that easy
> to use the code.
>
> The philosophy of ODF Toolkit also seems quite different than the
> filters/lenses of Corinthia.
>
> But of course corinthia need all the positive attention it can get.
>
> rgds
> jan i
>
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>> -louis
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Kylin-1.0-incubating

[Henry Saputra]

+1 (binding)


- Henry

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Luke Han  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The Apache Kylin community has voted on and approved a proposal to release
> Apache Kylin 1.0 (incubating).
>
> We already have applied some suggestion
> in last vote attempt, please refer to below vote mail thread for detail.
>
> Proposal:
> http://s.apache.org/kylin-1.0-rc2-vote
>
> Vote result:
> http://s.apache.org/kylin-1.0-rc2-result
>
> 8 binding +1 votes
> 5 non-binding +1 votes
> No -1 votes
>
>
> The commit to be voted upon:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/ef067de4ae43303c015118ad39a9aba7172bc250
>
> Its hash is ef067de4ae43303c015118ad39a9aba7172bc250.
>
> The artifacts to be voted on are located here:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/kylin/apache-kylin-1.0-incubating-rc2
>
> The hashes of the artifacts are as follows:
> src.tar.gz.md5 0789a032965f1a2686adac738a905378
> src.tar.gz.sha1 d7cc894cbd3cbc606aabcb0cbf3fb728044e55f1
>
> A staged Maven repository is available for review at:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekylin-1011/
>
> Release artifacts are signed with the following key:
> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lukehan.asc
>
> Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy and with
> the endorsement of our mentors we would now like to request
> the permission of the Incubator PMC to publish the release. The vote
> is open for 72 hours, or until the necessary number of votes (3 +1)
> is reached.
>
> [ ] +1 Release this package
> [ ]  0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
> [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
>
> +1 from Luke
>
> Luke Han, on behalf of Apache Kylin PPMC

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Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

[toki]

On 03/09/15 01:51, Ian C wrote:

> I'm not sure on the numbers or the details. It would be a shame to alienate 
> them.

The earliest mention of going to the attic on the ODF-Toolkit Users list
was on 21 January 2014.
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-odf-users/201401.mbox/%3ccap-ksoj3yl_-qw_vcucm7uexduz0-_vg24muvhx7qrbqxm6...@mail.gmail.com%3E

On the ODF-Toolkit developer list, the earliest discussion about the
future of the project I can find, started with the message at
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-odf-dev/201312.mbox/%3CCAP-ksoh3FMYrVis7bHSVKOtH0=j8k7a32zxww-nuutvjcf9...@mail.gmail.com%3E.

Consequently, I doubt that going to attic will alienate anybody.
Some projects don't make it to graduation. (How positive this is,
depends upon both the percentage of projects that go to attic, rather
than graduation, as well as an analysis of all projects that went from
incubation to attic. If more than a third of the projects go to attic,
and are _not_ "me too" projects, then, overall, the Apache Software
Foundation is healthy.  If less than 5% of the projects go to attic, and
are _not_ "me too" projects, then ASF is stagnant, unhealthy, and
failing in its mission.)

jonathon

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Re: Same for Kalumet

[Roman Shaposhnik]

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 3:35 AM, John D. Ament  wrote:
> All,
>
> Looking at the archives, it seems that Kalumet has been monthly for a
> while, missing June, July and August now.  There is 0 activity on all MLs,
> public and private.
>
> I'm not sure there are any signs of life on this podling and am wondering
> how to proceed.

I would suggest, simultaneously, reaching out to the community AND reaching
out to personal email addresses of mentors to ask that very same question.

I was doing some of that 'taking of the pulse' when I was IPMC Chair, but it
really doesn't have to be anybody formally appointed doing that. In fact,
the entire IPMC should be empowered to ask those same sort of questions.

Thanks,
Roman.

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ODF Toolkit may need help

[John D. Ament]

All,

I'd like to bring to your attention the ODF Toolkit podling.

This podling has been incubating for over 4 years now.  Last month they
filed a report without mentor sign off, without any feedback on the mailing
list.  They have remained partially active throughout the 4 years, but from
what I can tell suffering a bit in community growth.  I'd like to seek
input from the incubator on how to potentially resolve this and maybe get
help for this podling.

John

Same for Kalumet

[John D. Ament]

All,

Looking at the archives, it seems that Kalumet has been monthly for a
while, missing June, July and August now.  There is 0 activity on all MLs,
public and private.

I'm not sure there are any signs of life on this podling and am wondering
how to proceed.

John

Re: wiki access for publishing incubator report

[Marvin Humphrey]

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Swapnil Bawaskar  wrote:

> Can someone please grant me permission to publish incubation report for
> GEODE. My username is: SwapnilBawaskar

Done.

Marvin Humphrey

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Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

[toki]

On 02/09/15 10:25, John D. Ament wrote:

> I'd like to bring to your attention the ODF Toolkit podling.

This project has been torn between going to the attic, or becoming a
sub-project of another project, since at least January 2014.

IMNSHO, it should go to the attic, with Apache Corinthia picking up
whatever code ODF Toolkit created that it (Corinthia) can use.

jonathon

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