Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal

2011-06-02 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 2, 2011, at 11:12 AM, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: Yegor Kozlov yegor.koz...@dinom.ru wrote on 06/02/2011 01:36:52 PM: I can't speak for the whole project, but personally I'd be interested in discussing how the POI mission statement could be expanded, and if that'd work well

Re: How to report without a wiki ...

2013-05-01 Thread Dave Fisher
I'll ask ODF Toolkit to report since they missed. Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone feels that they urgently want to start on the May report right now, I can create the template and check it into svn. Otherwise I'm going

The Only Thing Wrong - Execution of Process

2013-05-15 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - I've been incredibly busy, but to me the main thing wrong in the Incubator is focusing on what might be wrong rather than executing on the process we already have (or had). Shepherds worked when they were assigned at random by the IPMC chair well in advance of the report. This helps to

Re: Possible focal point: podlings

2013-05-16 Thread Dave Fisher
On May 15, 2013, at 8:45 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: If you look at proposals and email, you will notice that several people who disagree on many things agree that this group has trouble making decisions by consensus, due to size, diversity, and perhaps sheer orneriness. One possibility

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-25 Thread Dave Fisher
(Member) * Sebastian Bazley sebb at apache dot org (Member) = Sponsors = == Champion == * Simone Tripodi simonetripodi at apache dot org (Member) == Nominated Mentors == * Sebastian Bazley sebb at apache dot org (Member) * Mohammad Nour mnour at apache dot org (Member) * Dave Fisher wave

Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator

2013-06-06 Thread Dave Fisher
Greg was a great co-mentor on Apache Flex. It would be interesting to see a scatter chart of number of initial mentors vs time in incubation. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2013, at 11:40 AM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: On Jun 5, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Greg Reddin

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-14 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Shane, On Jun 14, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote: Apologies if this horse has been beaten already, but... have we discussed the concept of splitting incubator operations into a handful of separate groups, based on technology areas? I.e. while the IPMC or ComDev or whoever would

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-18 Thread Dave Fisher
I think what we really should discuss is how the IPMC can help podlings in as simple a way as possible. I think we are looking for people in the IPMC who are willing to help podlings solved their real and their perceived problems. An Ombudsman is one title for someone like that and so is

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-19 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 19, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote: I would prefer to use well known names for well known roles. Ombudsman is a roll that's been around for quite a while and the person filling that role for the ASF will be doing roughly the same thing as ombudsman in other organizations.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Provisionr version 0.4.0-incubating, RC0

2013-06-27 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 27, 2013, at 1:33 AM, Andrei Savu wrote: This is the first release candidate for Apache Provisionr, version 0.4.0-incubating. The PPMC vote thread:

Re: [DISCUSSION] Apache Olingo next steps

2013-07-01 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 28, 2013, at 7:42 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote: On Jun 28, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Florian Müller f...@apache.org wrote: Hi, About two weeks ago, Stephan presented the Apache Olingo (OData) proposal [1]. There has been a bit of a discussion about the name and the diversity of the

Re: Shepherd assignments July 2013

2013-07-02 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jul 2, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org wrote: Can you also once recap the timelines you are expecting the podlings reports, shepherd reviews, and draft summary, and submission to board? I believe our schedule is

Re: [VOTE] recommend Apache JSPWiki for graduating out of the incubator

2013-07-07 Thread Dave Fisher
+1 (binding) - well done. A long and winding road to graduation. Regards, Dave On Jul 7, 2013, at 8:30 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: +1 binding Regards, Alan On Jul 6, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez juanpa...@apache.org wrote: Hi all, The Apache JSPWiki podling is

Re: [VOTE] Accept Olingo proposal as an incubating project

2013-07-07 Thread Dave Fisher
HI Alan, If you are on then I am +1. Thanks, Dave On Jul 7, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I can help here. Regards, Alan On Jul 7, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: While excited by this technology and project, I have to be -1. Why

[REPORT] Re: Shepherd assignments July 2013

2013-07-07 Thread Dave Fisher
Dave FisherJSPWiki Ready to graduate. A VOTE is in progress on general@. Still needs to file July board report. Dave FisherStratos Still getting started. Very active lists. I noted a slight impatience with Infrastructure. Is it worth establishing a timeline or SLA

Re: Shepherd assignments July 2013

2013-07-17 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jul 17, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Ross Gardler DeviceMap Project is in good shape and operating well. Ramping up for a release. Active mentor engagement where needed. Ross Gardler

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-07-30 Thread Dave Fisher
holders should step aside (assuming their objections are unlikely to cause long lasting damage) or step up (assuming they have an alternative proposal). People *have* stepped up -- Alex for starters. Then there's Dave Fisher, who argues that the proposed ombud role serves basically the same purpose

Re: Followup to VXQuery July 2013 report

2013-08-28 Thread Dave Fisher
Marvin, I completely agree. There has been rather little happening in VXQuery for quite some time Regards, Dave On Aug 22, 2013, at 9:21 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: (continuing a conversation which is cross-posted to general@incubator and vxquery-dev@incubator...) Hi VXQuery developers,

Re: Followup to VXQuery July 2013 report

2013-09-06 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Ant, I was the shepherd on VXQuery in their last reporting period. I really don't feel like anything is really happening in the project, at least not anywhere that is visible. I even asked a technical question about one of their suggested use cases - organize and accessing Edgar documents.

[Drill] - Re: Shepherd assignments, September 2013

2013-09-10 Thread Dave Fisher
FisherDrill Dave FisherS4 Matt Franklin Olingo Matt Franklin Provisionr Ross Gardler Wave Matt Hogstrom Sentry Benson Marguilies Spark Suresh Marru Allura Suresh Marru Samza Roman Shaposhnik Kalumet Roman

[S4] Re: Shepherd assignments, September 2013

2013-09-10 Thread Dave Fisher
for our September 2013 report: SHEPHERD PODLING -- Alan Cabrera Falcon Alan Cabrera MetaModel Alan Cabrera Tajo Dave FisherDrill Dave FisherS4 Matt Franklin Olingo Matt Franklin Provisionr

Re: [Drill] - Re: Shepherd assignments, September 2013

2013-09-13 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - Well I was late with my retraction. So, I did so to the board directly and with the report. Sorry for any consternation. Best of luck. I do think that once your podling does release that TLP status should come soon. Regards, Dave On Sep 12, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: Hi Ted

Re: [VOTE] first milestone release of Apache Drill (incubating)

2013-09-17 Thread Dave Fisher
Wonderful. On Sep 17, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: We've held a vote on drill-dev to release the first milestone release. The vote thread can be found here:

Re: binary release artifacts

2013-09-20 Thread Dave Fisher
If you have concerns about Apache OpenOffice it is no longer incubating. If you will contact the project on its lists with a concrete example. Otherwise to my knowledge LICENSE and NOTICES are correct at an appropriate level. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 7:49 PM,

Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

2013-09-24 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 24, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: ...So fill the bus with anybody who volunteers? That does not sound meritocratic It's been like that for a while in the Incubator, people who sign up as

Process for Granting Jenkins Access

2013-09-26 Thread Dave Fisher
A Mentoring question. Some of the committers in a podling want to access Jenkins. The instructions are here: http://wiki.apache.org/general/Jenkins#How_do_I_get_an_account I take it that for a podling any of the mentors should take the role of the PMC Chair and do this action. Please let me

Re: Shepherd assignments October 2013

2013-10-06 Thread Dave Fisher
://wiki.apache.org/incubator/October2013 Raphael Bircher Olingo Alan Cabrera Celix Alan Cabrera VXQuery Dave Fisher DeviceMap Dave Fisher Spark Although there are no reports yet. These projects both look healthy with active development. DeviceMap looks like

Re: Too many late reports

2013-10-07 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 6, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Dave Fisher DeviceMap Dave Fisher Spark Although there are no reports yet. On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Matt Franklin m.ben.frank

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache VXQuery Incubating 0.2 (RC4)

2013-10-09 Thread Dave Fisher
You have two IPMC votes. You need one more IPMC vote to pass. On Oct 8, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Vinayak Borkar wrote: Dear general@, A few weeks ago, there were concerns raised about the VXQuery project's ability to make releases. We now have an RC that has been voted for by the PPMC and is

Re: [VOTE] Apache Sirona as an incubated project

2013-10-10 Thread Dave Fisher
+1 (binding) On Oct 8, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote: Hi, Since discussion about the Sirona seems done, I'd like to call a vote for Sirona to become an incubated project. The proposal is pasted below, and also available at: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SironaProposal Let's

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache VXQuery Incubating 0.2 (RC4)

2013-10-10 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - I checked the source release and the signatures check out. Before I can VOTE I have questions. (1) What is the following file? A apache-vxquery-0.2-incubating/vxquery-core/src/test/resources/documents/dblp.xml.gz Am I correct that this shows up in your LICENSE as:

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache VXQuery Incubating 0.2 (RC4)

2013-10-11 Thread Dave Fisher
HI Ant, On Oct 11, 2013, at 2:03 AM, ant elder wrote: Dave/Vinayak, My understanding is that the ODC-BY license only needs to be run by ASF legal if there is a concern about it, I've read the license when voting on this and AFAICT its fine (and the package is not being modified so it could

Re: Project reboot proposals - any guidance?

2013-10-26 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Nick, I did a somewhat cursory review of the 10 years of emails in the XML Beans archives and have some definite ideas about governance. I don't think that they are for discussion yet - it will be up to the podling community. Regards, Dave On Oct 24, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Nick Burch wrote:

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache VXQuery Incubating 0.2 (RC4)

2013-11-05 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Till Westmann wrote: Hi Dave, On Oct 11, 2013, at 6:08 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Oct 11, 2013, at 2:03 AM, ant elder wrote: Vinayak, the release does not need to be redone yet. If it really looks like this will hold up getting

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 7 November 2013 11:20, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: The Incubator has a fundamental structural

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-11 Thread Dave Fisher
I don't think this is prudent, having only one binding vote is too low a check. We at the ASF have a responsibility to the public. I want to be certain that no one steam rolls the process. Just the fact that there are edge cases means we need to be careful. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone

Re: Shepherding November 2013

2013-11-12 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - Apologies for not getting around to it. I've been on the road and work continues to be a grind. Aurora is starting out and Open Climate Workbench looks fine - graduation soon? That was my initial look at the start, and then oops time's up. Regards, Dave On Nov 11, 2013, at 3:04 PM,

Re: Populating the initial PPMC

2013-11-20 Thread Dave Fisher
Dislike. For small projects, PPMC == Committers is a great starting point. For huge projects like OpenOffice something like this would have been chaos unleashed. If it were 3 or 4 then I would not have volunteered to be a Mentor for Apache Flex. To me the answer should remain somewhere

Re: Release vote thresholds

2013-11-22 Thread Dave Fisher
and Dave Fisher. The remaining question is whether we can arrive at an agreement in terms of how many IPMC votes it takes to get a release approved. Ant, you proposed a minimum of one IPMC vote for each release: http://s.apache.org/CHS How about simply changing the rules

[DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Knox-0.3.1-incubating RC3

2013-11-22 Thread Dave Fisher
How many +1 IPMC Binding Votes did you have from your Mentors? Putting this information clearly in the thread is very helpful. Regards, Dave On Nov 20, 2013, at 8:09 AM, larry mccay wrote: Hello All, This is a call for a vote on Apache Knox Gateway 0.3.1 incubating. A vote was held on

Re: [PROPOSAL] Experiment: VXQuery PPMC Release Voting

2013-11-22 Thread Dave Fisher
So we vote to make Till an IPMC member and then we have a proposal to allow VXQuery to have a non-Apache Member cast the only IPMC binding VOTE on a release. Sorry, but that is one step too many. Here is my proposal - see if invoking the old experiment (making a pdling PPMC member into an IPMC

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-21 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Alex, I like where you are going with this, but I think that rather than invent a new role within the ASF we might actually be on the track to how we make the IPMC more like a normal PMC. What you are calling IP Auditors is really one example of Incubator Committer - there are two kinds of

Re: [PROPOSAL] Experiment: VXQuery PPMC Release Voting

2013-12-01 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi, Apologies for returning to this after one week, but I have been on vacation. I am not against this experiment in general, especially after Bertrand's later clarification. I am against the experiment in VXQuery's case because Till has already been made an IPMC member under the prior

Re: Release vote thresholds

2013-12-01 Thread Dave Fisher
On Nov 27, 2013, at 2:41 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: I am not sure that this is a step in the correct direction. Dave, I'm sure you

Re: Release Verification Checklist

2013-12-01 Thread Dave Fisher
Marvin, I applaud your efforts here. If we are going to take PPMC release votes as binding then we should be sure that these are up to standards. Even if we don't this is still very valuable. One note I have is I don't think we should be teaching that some of release steps are optional when

Re: Release Verification Checklist

2013-12-01 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 1, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: One note I have is I don't think we should be teaching that some of release steps are optional when they are required. Don't get me wrong -- I would actually prefer

Re: Release Verification Checklist

2013-12-02 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:17 AM, sebb wrote: On 2 December 2013 13:52, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hi, On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: ...In response to Bertrand's proposal at http://s.apache.org/awz, I've created a

Re: Release Verification Checklist

2013-12-03 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 3, 2013, at 12:59 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:18 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:17 AM, sebb wrote: ... But it is much harder to update an SVN document compared with replying to an e-mail. Someone running the VOTE would

Re: Release Verification Checklist

2013-12-03 Thread Dave Fisher
There is a small negative to this process. How do non-committers VOTE on releases? This doesn't make me negative, but we ought to have an explanation. On Dec 3, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:07 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Which

Re: Release Verification Checklist

2013-12-08 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 6, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:31 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/votes/$PODLING/$RC

Re: Release vote thresholds

2013-12-08 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 5, 2013, at 7:26 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: I am only comfortable allowing singular IPMC votes from members of the ASF. I think the IPMC owes this much to the other members of the Foundation. I've now

Re: Release Verification Checklist

2013-12-12 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 12, 2013, at 2:15 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi Marvin, On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: I also went another round on the Manifest template and the Release Procedure section of the guide (not yet committed):

Re: [VOTE] Enable Release Checklist Experiment

2013-12-16 Thread Dave Fisher
[X] +1 Yes, apply the patch enabling the experiment. I kinda feel it doesn't need the Policy change and at this point it should be the 2014 ... but hey - still a positive vote. Regards, Dave On Dec 13, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: Greetings, As the next step in our ongoing

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Enable Release Checklist Experiment

2013-12-20 Thread Dave Fisher
I guess Marvin can't count to the fourth Dave. I also voted +1. Between Ant's and Chip's votes. On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: [ ] +1 Yes, apply the patch enabling the experiment. [ ] -1

Re: January 2014 Incubator report timeline

2013-12-26 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 25, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: January 2014 Incubator report timeline: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2014 FYI - Helix has graduated so I have removed it from the report. Regards, Dave Wed January 01 -- Podling reports due by end of day Sun

[CELIX] Re: January 2014 Incubator report timeline

2014-01-04 Thread Dave Fisher
. To me it is the ability to get three proper +1 VOTEs on releases. Anyway - go CELIX! Let's see if 2014 is a magical year. Regards, Dave On Dec 26, 2013, at 8:25 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Dec 25, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: January 2014 Incubator report timeline: http

Re: Hoya Proposal

2014-01-13 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 13, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Steve Loughran wrote: On 9 January 2014 21:55, Enis Söztutar enis@gmail.com wrote: Proposal looks good. Let me know if you need any additional help in mentors. Enis +1 -I'd really like input from the HBase and Accumulo teams as they are the first

Re: Shepherding February 2014

2014-02-10 Thread Dave Fisher
Sorry my limited Apache time was taken yesterday by catching up cadence issues. I checked DataFu and it is getting started in fine shape. The mentors are doing a fine job. I checked Hadoop Development Tools and there is some concern. Development is either stalled since November when

Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache Olingo 1.1.0 incubating (RC03)

2014-02-10 Thread Dave Fisher
Your wayward mentor agrees. Sorry I have lacked time to review this release. Regards, Dave On Feb 10, 2014, at 1:55 AM, Klevenz, Stephan wrote: Thanks :-) Discussion about graduation will start soon... Stephan On 10.02.14 10:36, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: Also, why

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.6.1-incubating

2014-03-05 Thread Dave Fisher
Hello - If someone from the IPMC would look at this release candidate it would be appreciated. (Sorry, but I have not found time myself.) Thanks, Dave On Feb 19, 2014, at 6:07 AM, Rob Weir wrote: We've had a vote within the PPMC which passed:

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.6.1-incubating

2014-03-11 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - Small nonblocking issues with this release candidate: (1) The source should not include the KEYS file. (2) I have trouble with the build so I could not judge the build. A maven 3 build would be nice and it is beiung discussed by the podling. (3) I ran manual rat scans using Apache RAT

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.6.1-incubating

2014-03-12 Thread Dave Fisher
On Mar 12, 2014, at 6:49 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi - Small nonblocking issues with this release candidate: (1) The source should not include the KEYS file. OK. Hopefully you saw that we also have the file

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Olingo from the Incubator

2014-03-13 Thread Dave Fisher
of the Apache Olingo Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Olingo Project: * Florian Mueller f...@apache.org * Dave Fisher

Re: [VOTE] Retire the S4 podling

2014-06-14 Thread Dave Fisher
+1, binding. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Joe Brockmeier j...@zonker.net wrote: Hi all, Per recent discussions on general@[1] and s4-dev@ [2], I went ahead and called for a VOTE on the S4 dev@

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-25 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - I've been too busy to do more than lurk occasionally. Consequently I am not mentoring and not shepherding lately. I do want to add something to this debate. PMCs write their board reports to the board in whatever way they want. The Incubator is about teaching PPMCs how to become PMCs. We

Re: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Dave Fisher
contribute to Apache OO by providing portions of the LO codebase as MPL binary libraries. Sam, is this the direction you are leading us? Regards, Dave Fisher - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org

Re: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 4, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Once licensing issues are understood then a way the two communities might mutually cooperate becomes clear. And here it is LO/TDF might contribute to Apache OO

Re: OpenOffice LibreOffice

2011-06-05 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 5, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Keith Curtis wrote: On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: We are a type-O org. Anyone can take our blood and mix it with their own. That universal donor condition places lots of restrictions on our projects, but somehow they

Re: OpenOffice LibreOffice

2011-06-05 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 5, 2011, at 4:18 PM, Keith Curtis wrote: On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: You have recipient and donor roles reversed. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_donor#Red_blood_cell_compatibility Search the archives for some of Sam Ruby's

Re: OpenOffice LibreOffice

2011-06-05 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 5, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Keith Curtis wrote: What are you talking about? You can relicense to your hearts content. You just can't contribute it back under some other license otherwise user's couldn't use it and then relicense it. If you can't grasp that concept then there really is

Re: Request: Can proposed committers introduce themselves?

2011-06-07 Thread Dave Fisher
Sure. Hi everyone (maybe the people that Rob knows should introduce themselves as well - some of us are new to the community.) My name is David Fisher. I have been in the software industry for over 30 years. I've worked in many computer languages - FORTRAN, PL/1, C, C++, Postscript, Java,

Re: Request: Can proposed committers introduce themselves?

2011-06-07 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 7, 2011, at 6:54 PM, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote on 06/07/2011 09:23:25 PM: Sure. Hi everyone (maybe the people that Rob knows should introduce themselves as well - some of us are new to the community.) My name is David Fisher. I have

Re: Document automation with ODF (was Re: Request: Can proposed committers introduce themselves?)

2011-06-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Of course we had been using ODFDOM but the issue is how do you get ODF transformed accordingly to other formats such as RTF, AFP or PDF and make those formats look consistent with what you would get if doing the transformation natively during design time in OO or Symphony. I think your

OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Dave Fisher
I started looking around at the OOo website. I'm not sure if now is the time to bring this up, but at http://contributing.openoffice.org/donate.html there is a solicitation for funds via three processes. Here's what the page says: Your donation will go directly towards helping this project.

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Jun 8, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Andy Brown wrote: Andrew Rist wrote: to a foundation independent of Oracle: Team OpenOffice.org e.V. searching for a more complete answer

Re: Remediation ...

2011-06-09 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 9, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Michael Meeks wrote: Hi Sam, On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 13:54 -0400, Sam Ruby wrote: The net of all of this is that there will need to be a substantial public aspect to this entire discussion. Yes, I will probably have some private discussions with ASF lawyers

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Dave Fisher
[X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation Non-binding. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: ODF Toolkit Incubation Pre-Proposal

2011-06-27 Thread Dave Fisher
FYI Apache OpenOffice.org podling has been active for two weeks. Information is here. http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ What do the people here on the POI project think of

Re: ODF Toolkit Incubation Pre-Proposal

2011-06-27 Thread Dave Fisher
Keep in mind this thread is in three places or two places or one place all depending on how people have replied. It will be confusing. Please include POI-DEV so we can discuss it here without going everywhere else as well. On Jun 27, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: FYI Apache

Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation

2011-07-21 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Andy Brown wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: And I've added it to the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal -Rob What can I do to help? Good

Re: [VOTE] Accept ODF Toolkit for Incubation

2011-07-28 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Accept ODF Toolkit for incubation [ ] +0 Indifferent to ODF Toolkit incubation [ ] -1 Reject ODF Toolkit for incubation +1. Dave This vote will close 72 hours from now. - Sam Ruby

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept ODF Toolkit for Incubation

2011-08-08 Thread Dave Fisher
HI Nick, If you have been waiting for three volunteers before moving forward then I'll raise my hand as well. I'm looking forward to working with Yegor and you as mentors. I hope you won't be waiting for me to walk my bike up the headlands while you look at the Golden Gate! :-D Regards,

Re: [wave] Code grant and IP

2011-08-19 Thread Dave Fisher
So what does it mean when a committers userid - mine is w...@apache.org == a project name Apache Wave? Not that I have noticed any spam coming to me. Regards, Dave On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Hi Dan, thanks. I have updated the status page for wave to reflect

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduating empire?

2011-10-30 Thread Dave Fisher
On Oct 30, 2011, at 8:39 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: On Oct 30, 2011, at 7:05 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: [...snip...] Even so, my basic view is that these folks are viable as a TLP, and if someone really disagrees, I might feel strongly enough to ask the board to shoot my head

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.5-incubating RC5

2011-12-16 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Devin, I know I haven't been completely engaged in ODF Toolkit (incubating) lately. I don't know if I have time to give this first release enough attention to vote before the deadline. Please consider extending the 72 hours to a full week. Best Regards, Dave On Dec 16, 2011, at 3:49 AM,

Re: Looking for mentors for Flex (was: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator)

2011-12-21 Thread Dave Fisher
podling PPMC and all the fun that has entailed. I'm very interested in Flex as a platform especially now that it is at the ASF. Regards, Dave Fisher (w...@apache.org) On Dec 21, 2011, at 2:27 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi Incubator PMC and ASF members, In case you missed my earlier call

Re: [VOTE] Flex to join the Apache Incubator

2011-12-27 Thread Dave Fisher
+1 (not yet binding) Regards, Dave On Dec 27, 2011, at 1:51 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi Incubator PMC members (*), I've just reviewed the [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator thread and I think all relevant issues have been adressed now. I have added Anne and Dave Fisher

Re: Welcome Anne Kathrine Petterøe and Dave Fisher as Incubator PMC members

2012-01-03 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 3, 2012, at 2:07 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi, I'm pleased to announce that Anne and Dave have been elected by the Incubator PMC to be members of that PMC. Thanks! With this the Flex mentors roster is complete, thanks for volunteering! You're welcome! Regards, Dave

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.5-incubating-RC7

2012-01-11 Thread Dave Fisher
Yes, congratulations! On Jan 11, 2012, at 7:21 PM, Devin Han wrote: Hi all, The Apache ODF Toolkit 0.5-incubating RC7 ballot has ended. We have received 4 IPMC +1 votes (plus an additional 4 PPMC +1 votes) during the release voting on dev and general. The vote passed! Results: From

Re: [DISCUSS] eliminate vetoes on personnel votes

2012-01-30 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone On Jan 30, 2012, at 5:34 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On 1/30/2012 6:06 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: It is clear that with all the turmoil of late and people lightly tossing around -1's that the notion of having veto authority over personnel matters

Re: [DISCUSS] eliminate vetoes on personnel votes

2012-01-30 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone On Jan 30, 2012, at 7:47 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On 1/30/2012 7:44 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Jan 30, 2012, at 5:34 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On 1/30/2012 6:06 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote

Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-01 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi, I would like to point out that a reminder on the day the report is due is NOT plenty of time. The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 February 2012, 10:00:00 PST. The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to

Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-01 Thread Dave Fisher
On Feb 1, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Greg Stein wrote: On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:30, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, I would like to point out that a reminder on the day the report is due is NOT plenty of time. While the *reminder* may not have given you much time, note

Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-01 Thread Dave Fisher
On Feb 1, 2012, at 12:12 PM, Greg Stein wrote: On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 14:40, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: ... There is no announcement. The calendar is set well in advance: repos/committers/board/calendar.txt OK. With this and the script, I guess you would say that patches

Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-02 Thread Dave Fisher
On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: OK. With this and the script, I guess you would say that patches are welcome ;-) If someone would point me to the script I'd like to see if I can make an improvement trying on my new IPMC

Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-02 Thread Dave Fisher
arrange access to the script for you to hack on (it's in perl). Yes, please. Thanks, Dave - Original Message - From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 9:10 AM Subject: Re: Giving podlings enough time to report

Re: Giving podlings enough time to report [Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])]

2012-02-02 Thread Dave Fisher
consider this a bug we can arrange access to the script for you to hack on (it's in perl). - Original Message - From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 9:10 AM Subject: Re: Giving podlings enough time to report

Re: TL;DR

2012-02-04 Thread Dave Fisher
On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:11 PM, Scott Wilson wrote: On 3 Feb 2012, at 23:17, Benson Margulies wrote: A number of people are asking for the incubator PMC to take a deep breath and allow room to digest and contemplate the various issues that have led to a bumper crop of email. These are complex

Re: TL;DR

2012-02-04 Thread Dave Fisher
On Feb 4, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:11 PM, Scott Wilson wrote: On 3 Feb 2012, at 23:17, Benson Margulies wrote: A number of people are asking for the incubator PMC to take

Re: TL;DR

2012-02-04 Thread Dave Fisher
On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:15 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 2/4/2012 12:45 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: If it is different from Chris's then I think Bill should write his proposal. Dave, mine is not difference in process, substance or requirements. Do you advocate the 3 Apache Members per

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