Re: Video conferencing platforms for virtual meetups

Apache OpenMeeting? Gj On Wed, 11 Aug 2021 at 19:46, Mingshen Sun wrote: > > The foundation also has a donated license of Google workspace > > and can give you an account on it. > > Thanks, Kevin. Google Workspace may be helpful, but I'm worried that > Google Meet may not be accessible by some

Re: IP clearance related question

This has nothing to do with the incubator, please continue all NetBeans discussions in the open on the Apache NetBeans dev mailing list. Gj On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 18:01, Eric Barboni wrote: > Hi incubator community, > > > > Skygo with Apache NetBeans hat on. > > > > I'm in a deadlock since two

Re: Podling expectations and some issues encountered in incubation

scrap your release schedule until you complete incubation because your release dates will not be under your control?” Gj On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 at 00:46, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Geertjan Wielenga wrote on Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 18:14:52 +0200: > > Any community joining Apache should be v

Re: Podling expectations and some issues encountered in incubation

Any community joining Apache should be very clear in their own minds that the Incubator is there for them to get used to the Apache Way. It is not there for getting releases done in the same cadence as before the community entered the Incubator, nor does it carry the responsibility for that. Until

Re: Incubation Pain Points

> trouble. > > I think that the podling proposal template should be updated to be less > verbose and more about the podling community clearly understanding what its > going to happen and identifying what support the community will need. > > Regards, > Dave > > > On Jun

Re: Incubation Pain Points

being clearly > > communicated prior to entering incubation and not have to listen to > complaints all the time. > > > > And for my point of view: If there are projects, that join the ASF, but > don't want to play according to the > > Rules - we're off way better wit

Re: Incubation Pain Points

At least I don't want to invest > my time (which is already > Spread out pretty thin with all the things I do for the ASF) to deal with > rebellious podlings. > > Chris > > > > > Perhaps creating a training session as part of the training podling > > Am 13.06.19,

Re: Incubation Pain Points

its bleakness. :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnznard9Nls Gj On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 10:29 PM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Speaking on behalf of myself only, though note I am PMC chair of NetBeans, > which went through a protracted (nice way of saying ‘complex’) incubation > becau

Re: Incubation Pain Points

Speaking on behalf of myself only, though note I am PMC chair of NetBeans, which went through a protracted (nice way of saying ‘complex’) incubation because of its size (‘very large’) and history (20+ years) — the key to any new culture is to adopt its traditions and to fight them as little as

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Zipkin (incubating) version 2.14.0

quot;ISSUE" that needs to be discussed in consideration of whether a vote > is 3+1 days or 3+3 days. The bias is towards making things problems, > not putting them in perspective or addressing long held issues that > make this whole thing eggshell (ex RAT) > > On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 5:33 P

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Zipkin (incubating) version 2.14.0

In defence of Justin :-) I'm very sure NetBeans would not be as solid and well placed in Apache right now, outside the Incubator, without Justin's uncanny ability to find glitches. :-) Gj On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 4:59 PM Adrian Cole wrote: > maybe you can open source the tools you use justin. >

[RESULT] [VOTE] Recommend 'Apache NetBeans graduation to Top Level Project' resolution to board

Hi all, Many thanks for the enthusiasm and encouragement -- the vote thread[1] has been open for 72 hours and the vote has passed: 18 +1 votes (and no 0 or -1 votes). Thanks, Geertjan on behalf of Apache NetBeans [1]

[VOTE] Recommend 'Apache NetBeans graduation to Top Level Project' resolution to board

Aristides Villarreal * Arunava Sinha * Ate Douma * Attila Kelemen * Bertrand Delacretaz * Bruno Flávio * Bruno Souza * Christian Lenz * Constantin Drabo * David Heffelfinger * Daniel Gruno * Dusan Balek * Eirik Bakke * Emilian Bold * Emmanuel Hugonnet * Eric Barboni * Florian Vogler * Geertj

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

OK, last call for thoughts small and large. If there are none, tomorrow morning CEST the vote thread will begin. Gh On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 11:52, Nick Kew wrote: > > > > On 8 Apr 2019, at 07:53, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > > > It is controled by Apache. >

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

corrects me. Gj On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 8:53 AM Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > It is controled by Apache. > > Gj > > On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 08:38, Nick Kew wrote: > >> >> >> > On 8 Apr 2019, at 06:22, Greg Stein wrote: &g

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

It is controled by Apache. Gj On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 08:38, Nick Kew wrote: > > > > On 8 Apr 2019, at 06:22, Greg Stein wrote: > > > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 6:14 PM Justin Mclean > > wrote: > >> ... > > > >> - What the situation with https://netbeans.org website? > >> > > > > That question

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17245 Gj On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:53 AM Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On the other hand, I don't think there'd be an objection -- and it might > be the right moment -- to redirect netbeans.org to netbean

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

with becoming a TLP. Just because netbeans.org would redirect to netbeans.apache.org would not mean that plugins.netbeans.org would cease to exist, which is the main part we're most concerned about right now. Gj On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:48 AM Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

Note that every link on netbeans.org front page redirects to netbeans.apache.org -- it's simply a facade right now for netbeans.apache.org and is only there since we're concerned that parts of it are still needed. So, it is not the podling's previous website in the true sense of the word. Gj On

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

like that. Hopefully this year too, though np guarantees -- this is tracked at cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition, which is not completely up to date, but something we are working on. >From Oracle: * Arunava Sinha * Dusan Balek * Geertjan Wielenga * Jan Lahoda *

[DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

Gruno * Dusan Balek * Eirik Bakke * Emilian Bold * Emmanuel Hugonnet * Eric Barboni * Florian Vogler * Geertjan Wielenga * Glenn Holmer * Ivar Grimstad * James Gosling * Jan Lahoda * Jan Pirek * Jaroslav Tulach * Jean-Marc Borer * Jiří Kovalský * Joerg Michelberger * Johan Vos * J

Re: [DISCUSS] Mentors SHOULD vote on podling releases prior to asking IPMC to vote

Maybe the PPMC and IPMC vote could run in parallel -- a key reason why we in Apache NetBeans are looking forward to graduation is that we'll not need to go through the loop of (1) PPMC approves, (2) IPMC rejects, (3) PPMC needs to put together a new release and vote on it again, (4) IPMC rejects

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 11.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 12:09, Mark Struberg wrote: > One also has to see that NetBeans is an exceptionally big and complex > podling! > > For most other projects the existing process works really fine. > > LieGrue, > strub > > > > Am 01.04.2019 u

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 11.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 11:27 AM Mark Struberg wrote: > We have also previously already checked those files and also have the > sources at hand afaict. > So they should be perfectly fine - as they have been in older NB releases > (where we had the question as well). > I think this is the

Re: Voting on releases with serious unaddressed issues

On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 10:26 AM Bertrand Delacretaz < bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 8:01 PM Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > >...what comes closest to what > > you're looking for is the Rat exclusions file... > > > > ht

Re: List of Projects that went straight to Top Level Projects

out on > incubation. My question about the list of projects that went to TLP was > more about making sure I have as much data as possible to base my > research on. > > Thanks > Sharan > > > On 31. 03. 19 13:36, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > I would highly recommend t

Re: List of Projects that went straight to Top Level Projects

I would highly recommend that you don’t do this. What would be the reason to go straight to TLP? There’s a lot to learn and many mistakes to make, and speaking from experience, it is best to learn and make mistakes in the incubator, which is precisely its purpose. Gj On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 at

Re: Voting on releases with serious unaddressed issues

On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 at 05:51, Davor Bonaci wrote: > The issue at hand is simply called theft, For the record, no. No. It was never simply called theft. These files were part of the donation received from Oracle. We did not add these files in any way in Apache and simply received them as part

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 11.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:36 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > > > > > For the record, we have 4 mentors, two of which have voted +1 on this > > release so far. > > One voted on the IPMC list (right?). I think Graig was asking why they > didn’t vote on the podling dev list. > > It has never been a

Re: [CANCELLED][VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 11.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

Yes, we have -- after a bit of to and fro -- now 4 IPMC votes: Craig, Justin, Ate, and Mark. And we have the right amount of time, i.e., 72 hours. Let's mark the items listed by Justin as blockers for the next release (the cat picture deletion is a PR already). I'd say there's nothing stopping

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 11.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

For the record, we have 4 mentors, two of which have voted +1 on this release so far. Gj > > It looks to me like the issues raised on this vote thread have been > discussed before and resolved. The right place to resolve issues is, well, > on JIRA. > > > On Mar 30, 2019,

Re: Voting on releases with serious unaddressed issues

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 7:49 AM Adrian Cole wrote: > > I'm excited about netbeans becoming an apache TLP, and also interested > in learning if there are things in that process (beyond the photo > snatching) other podlings like the one I am should be careful of. > Here it is:

Re: Voting on releases with serious unaddressed issues

The images have been deleted. The sample containing them has been deleted. Of the millions of lines of code in Apache NetBeans, the deleted sample is so completely unimportant that it is impossible to express its unimportance. There isn’t even a metaphor I can think of to illustrate this. Thanks,

Re: Voting on releases with serious unaddressed issues

hy they are fine would > help. > > Thanks > David Jencks > > > On Mar 30, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > > > On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 6:26 PM Wade Chandler <mailto:wadechand...@apache.org>> > > wrote: > >

Re: Voting on releases with serious unaddressed issues

On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 6:26 PM Wade Chandler wrote: > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 22:34 Justin Mclean > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > The Netbeans RC is an interesting one as they: > > - Have made several releases before. > > - Have been given advice from the IPMC on serious issues and what to fix. > >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 11.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

/NETBEANS/10.0-vc5 How much better a citizen of the Apache Way can one be than we have been in responding and dealing with licensing concerns of all shapes and sizes. Gj On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 1:46 PM Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I’m fine with r

Re: [CANCELLED][VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 11.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

We need to have clarity on what exactly we need to work on in relation to licensing -- we are definitely not going to license data files because (a) Apache does not require it and (2) it would break our tests, which is why Apache does not require it. That's the bulk of the issues raised by Justin.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 11.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

I’m fine with retreating and getting the work done that needs to be done. However, before retreating we need to know exactly and specifically what we are agreed on that we are going to do. E.g., we are not going to license heaps of files that are data and that Apache explicitly for that reason

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 11.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

Sure, but this image thing is trivial, we should simply remove those and we don’t care about the sample that contains them anyway. Also, again, note that we had not ignored or dismissed your comments from the previous release. So, to your question whether we have a Rat report, we do have one as

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 11.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

:37 AM Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi Justin, > > Note also that we have worked on the items that you mentioned in the > previous release, e.g.: > > > On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 8:24 AM Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlema

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 11.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

Hi Justin, Note also that we have worked on the items that you mentioned in the previous release, e.g.: On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 8:24 AM Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > We have spent a lot of time on that, documenting them in detail: > > >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 11.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

We have spent a lot of time on that, documenting them in detail: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/nbbuild/rat-exclusions.txt Gj On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 at 08:16, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 11.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/404/artifact/rat-release-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt Gj On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 at 07:58, Justin Mclean wrote: > HI, > > > I assume we are taking about files like: > > >

Fwd: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans graduation to Top Level Project

#community_graduation_vote -- Forwarded message - From: Geertjan Wielenga Date: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:47 AM Subject: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans graduation to Top Level Project To: dev , dev Hi all, After a discussion amongst the Apache NetBeans community on the dev mailing list[1], voting

Re: Official releases vs unreleased code

So, just to be clear what this means in the context of Apache NetBeans. Here's two different scenarios that relate to this: 1. CoolBeans (coolbeans.xyz) is a distribution of Apache NetBeans, with the difference that it includes the 'enterprise' cluster (i.e., Jakarta/Java EE features) of Apache

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 3]

ine over it or just move that > deadline. > > On 11/18/18 7:38 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > Or, no, not this one (i.e., this is the RESULT thread, which is too > early), > > but the first VOTE thread you started. > > > > Gj > > > > On Sun, Nov 18,

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 3]

Or, no, not this one (i.e., this is the RESULT thread, which is too early), but the first VOTE thread you started. Gj On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 4:37 PM Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > But that's not needed at all. We just need at least two IPMC members to

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 3]

But that's not needed at all. We just need at least two IPMC members to vote +1 in the original thread (i.e., this one). Gj On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 4:26 PM Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > Thank you for pointing that out! > > I'm going to kick off another Voting Thread then. > > On 11/17/18 11:02 PM,

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 3]

/9cdf17a2e86bdba487cb8db0ca38c5d611f236c09e8b3ff49f6ca22a@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E One binding IPMC +1 vote, carried over to IPMC vote thread: Mark Struberg Non-binding +1 votes: -- Josh Juneau -- Eric Barboni -- Junichi Yamamoto -- Jaroslav Tulach -- Laszlo Kishalmi -- Geertjan Wielenga -- Jens Hofschröer -- Ricardo

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 3]

s, Gj On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Not directly relevant since this is relevant to the functioning of the > convenience binary, but it might be interesting from an informative point > of view for

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 3]

Hi all, Not directly relevant since this is relevant to the functioning of the convenience binary, but it might be interesting from an informative point of view for all to know that the Apache NetBeans (incubating) community has done a Community Acceptance survey [1] for users of the upcoming

Re: [ANN] Please welcome Justin Mclean as the new Incubator PMC chair!

Congratulations and thanks for your great work and support of the Apache NetBeans (incubating) project, looking forward to even more interactions with you. Gj On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Sharan Foga wrote: > Congratulations Justin and thanks John for all the hard work you have done! > > On

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 RC1 released

None? I see this one working: http://www-eu.apache.org/dist/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-rc1/ ...and this one: http://www-us.apache.org/dist/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-rc1/ I'm sure the others are still in process. Gj On Mon,

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1

Only binding votes from Ate and Bertrand thus far. Gj On Sunday, May 27, 2018, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > If we create an issue for removing that ZIP file, will you change your +0 > > to +1? > > I’ve not had a chance to go over everything yet, it’s not a small

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1

If we create an issue for removing that ZIP file, will you change your +0 to +1? Gj On Sunday, May 27, 2018, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > I wonder where exactly (most) of these files come from. > > Sorry, many apologies, and my mistake as I looked at your last

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1

AFAIK these have all been removed, I removed several of these myself. Gj On Saturday, May 26, 2018, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > > Please check that your rat exclusions have not been set to too wide and > rat shovel pick up these issues. > > Correcting: > >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1

+1 (non binding) Signatures verified after importing the 1CCF4647 key from here: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/netbeans/KEYS SHA1 digests match. DISCLAIMER and NOTICE look good. nbbuild/rat-exclusions.txt, we need to work on making it smaller, but we have documented

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1

, 2018, Bertrand Delacretaz < > bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > >> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 3:38 PM, Geertjan Wielenga >> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> > ...The license files listed in the Rat report are known and an issue >> exis

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1

2018 at 3:38 PM, Geertjan Wielenga > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > ...The license files listed in the Rat report are known and an issue > exists > >>> for solving this: > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-305 ... > > I

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1

And the open issue is mentioned directly in the vote thread itself by Emilian: The license files listed in the Rat report are known and an issue exists >> for solving this: > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-305 > > Gj On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 3:

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1

See this page, most/several items are mentioned there, including the new splash screen: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+RC1 Note that we're not working on the final release of Apache NetBeans, but on its release candidate. Indeed, this is confusing --

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc3

Thanks again, Gj On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 5:26 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Thanks a lot, these should be trivial to fix, will make issues for all and > merge for the next release. > > Gj > > > On Friday, February 1

[ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 Beta released

The Apache NetBeans team is proud to announce the release of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 Beta. Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 Beta constitutes all the modules in the Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans Platform (i.e., the underlying application framework), which

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc3

Yes, we split up the issues into those we would fix for the Beta release and those for after that before but before leaving the incubator. This is all documented on the rc3 page on our Wiki, i.e., it is clearly documented which items we committed to fixing for Beta and which for after that and the

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc3

Thanks a lot, these should be trivial to fix, will make issues for all and merge for the next release. Gj On Friday, February 16, 2018, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > I know the vote is over but you may want to fix this issues I noticed > before the next release: > -

[RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc3

will proceed to publish the release and send ANNOUNCE. On behalf of the Apache NetBeans podling, thank you! Geertjan -- Forwarded message -- From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 10:36 PM Subject: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc3

issue, has the jar been removed from the new RC? I just scanned a > couple of the links below but didn’t see any mention of this. > > david jencks > >> On Feb 9, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Geertjan Wielenga >> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi

[VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc3

Hi all, The Apache NetBeans community has voted on and approved a proposal to release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc3. We now kindly request that the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this incubator release candidate. Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) constitutes all the

Re: License headers on test data (was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2)

OK, makes sense, thanks for these insights and ideas. Gj On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 2:40 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Geertjan Wielenga > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >>

Re: License headers on test data (was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2)

://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-318 [2]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-306 Thanks, Gj On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 2:22 PM, Geertjan Wielenga > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com&g

Re: License headers on test data (was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2)

We have created one of many[1] issues dedicated to data files in */test/*data folders. The point is that these are all data files, used by our tests, and if license headers were to be added the tests would fail. E.g., some tests make use of a position in the file, which would be different (and

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 12:36 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 5:33 AM Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> The very last thing you’ll find us doing is ignoring your advice. We have >> t

Re: License headers on test data (was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2)

On Monday, January 22, 2018, John D. Ament wrote: > > > > > > > - Specific call outs in the README about test data licensing not be > > Apache > > > license > > > > > > > This is one of the things that are very unclear to me. If we are talking > > about files like these

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

The very last thing you’ll find us doing is ignoring your advice. We have taken everything everyone has said and suggested from the very start very seriously. It is for that very reason that, for example, we’d like rat exclusions to be discussed and not ignored and for it also to be affirmed that

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

project that has a long history > outside Apache. I don't that Netbeans has any such problems and it sucks to > have to do the due diligence, but that diligence really is due before > release. > > > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 2:01 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@goo

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

I am not sure what the point is of spending time on putting rat exclusions together if they’re simply going to be ignored when it comes to IPMC members evaluating a release. Yes, we can of course discuss those rat exclusions. No, they cannot simply be ignored and we cannot be confronted with a

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

The exclusions are in the build.xml in github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans. I am quite sure that the rat exclusions are set too wide, at this point, the idea being to resolve those over the coming releases bit by bit. Gj On Sunday, January 21, 2018, Justin Mclean

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

running rat, as a starting point. Then we’ll all have the same results and can start discussions from the same basis. Gj On Sunday, January 21, 2018, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Yes, we excluded test/*/data directories via rat exclusions on the basis >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

Yes, we excluded test/*/data directories via rat exclusions on the basis that files within them are test data and hence can be excluded. There is no test code here. At worst, as pointed out below, there’s pseudo code. Gj On Saturday, January 20, 2018, Jan Lahoda wrote: > On

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

Hi Justin, Many thanks for your thorough review, by the end of this we’re really going to have a release that is excellently IP-cleared. Since two of our mentors gave a +1 in the PPMC vote, I’m interested in their take on your review too. Just curious, that’s all, how they evaluate your points.

[VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2

Hi all, The Apache NetBeans community has voted on and approved a proposal to release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2. We now kindly request that the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this incubator release candidate. Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) constitutes all the

[RESULT][Vote] Release of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 Alpha [RC2]

Dear IPMC Community, I am pleased to announce that the Incubator PMC has approved the release of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 Alpha rc2. The vote has passed with: four binding "+1" votes no "0" votes no "-1" votes The votes were

[Vote] Release of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 Alpha [RC2]

Hi all, The Apache NetBeans community has voted on and approved a proposal to release Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 Alpha rc2. We now kindly request that the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this incubator release candidate. Apache NetBeans (incubating) is an open source development

Re: [VOTE] Release 1.5 of NetBeans HTML/Java API

Many thanks -- so, right now, Bertrand, John, and Mark have done binding votes -- i.e., two of our mentors and the VP Incubator. How many binding votes are needed or is it simply a question of time, i.e., at the time that the vote expires, if there's no -1, and only +1 binding votes, then the

Re: Write access to Incubator Wiki

Done. Gj On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Willem Jiang wrote: > Hi, > > May I have the write access of Incubator wiki for editing the page of > incubator? > > My name is njiang, email is ningji...@apache.org > > Thanks, > > Willem Jiang > > Blog:

Re: [DRAFT] Incubator PMC Board Report - September 2017

Makes sense, was missing your reminders, now I know why. Looking forward to reporting again, heaps will have happened in the interim. Gj On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 at 12:28, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 2:40 AM Geertjan Wielenga < >

Re: [DRAFT] Incubator PMC Board Report - September 2017

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 2:23 AM, John D. Ament wrote: Geertjan, > > What if we add a note under Legal, something like: > > - Thanks to hard work on both the Oracle and ASF side, the Netbeans team > was able to get the first three repositories populated from a software > grant. > > ? > Great!

Re: [DRAFT] Incubator PMC Board Report - September 2017

NetBeans went through some developments during this past month, not sure where that would fit, maybe a place can be added for it and we'll fill in the details? Gj On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 12:02 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Pulsar is now signed off and also shepherd notes

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Netbeans - Exception Reporter

Yup, we need to include it in the transition in some way and will need to list in the Wiki once we have set that up. Gj On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 8:02 PM, cowwoc wrote: > Hi, > > One of the main feature I value in the Netbeans infrastructure is the > automated exception

Re: NetBeans next steps

Or maybe a list of names could be provided of those who have already sent in there ICLAs for Apache NetBeans (incubating)? And those could then enter the process of having their accounts created manually. Gj On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.

Re: NetBeans next steps

OK, thanks, will work with Wade and others who may be encountering this. Gj On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 12:20 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > Wade, > > ICLAs submitted before the vote don't get accounts created automatically. > Please reach out to your mentors to get your account

Re: [VOTE] Accept NetBeans into the Apache Incubator

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 7:39 PM, jag wrote: > +1 (expressing unbridled enthusiasm and glee!!) Note: The above is James Gosling. :-) - Gj On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 7:39 PM, jag wrote: > +1 (expressing unbridled enthusiasm and glee!!) > > > > -- > View this message in

Re: [VOTE] Accept NetBeans into the Apache Incubator

to NetBeans, > > while > > those without bold means that the contributor has an intention to > > contribute to > > Apache NetBeans while not having done so before. That does not mean that > > those > > in bold are better or worse, just that they'll be abl

Re: Reuse Maven repository more was: Preliminary NetBeans cost findings

This would be brilliant. Make it happen! Gj On Wednesday, September 28, 2016, Jaroslav Tulach wrote: > On sobota 24. září 2016 12:17:21 CEST, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > Certain services like the plugins hosting will rely on Legal giving the > > go-ahead for it,

Re: [Incubator Wiki] Update of "NetBeansProposal" by GeertjanWielenga

Yup. I stand corrected and have deleted. :-) Gj On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 1:39 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > Its generally not good practice to edit the proposal once the vote has > started. > > John > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 7:38 PM Apache Wiki

Re: Netbeans expectations (Was: Re: ASF doing too much? (Was: Re: TAC))

to be invaluable! Gj On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 12:58 AM, Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu> wrote: > On 2016-09-28 00:50, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > >> Sorry, Bertrand, not Ate, though I feel they're in sync. >> > > In this case, you felt right :-) > > Syncing with the mentors would hav

Re: Netbeans expectations (Was: Re: ASF doing too much? (Was: Re: TAC))

Sorry, Bertrand, not Ate, though I feel they're in sync. Gj On Wednesday, September 28, 2016, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > From the NetBeans side, we appreciate Roman's callibration and Jim's > transparency and Ate's diplomacy. > &g

Re: Netbeans expectations (Was: Re: ASF doing too much? (Was: Re: TAC))

>From the NetBeans side, we appreciate Roman's callibration and Jim's transparency and Ate's diplomacy. Onwards. Gj On Wednesday, September 28, 2016, Bertrand Delacretaz < bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: > (removing board@ which has nothing to do with this) > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 12:39

Re: Preliminary NetBeans cost findings

p 27, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Geertjan Wielenga >> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>> ...I think for a lot of (NetBeans) folks lurking in these threads, it >>> will be >>> useful to know what voting means, who can vote, what 'binding votes' are, >

Re: Radical proposal: no initial list of committers

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > For example, I'm really curious whether the current cast of NetBeans > mentors are really aware of the IP review workload that is going to hit > them > once NetBeans tries to produce its first official Apache Release. In that regard,

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