Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Fineract podling graduation

[Myrle Krantz]

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 1:57 PM, John D. Ament 
wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 8:34 AM Myrle Krantz  wrote:
>
> > Hey Jon,
> >
> > Cool.  So it'd be something like the text below.  I have a question
> > though.  As initial members, I've included the initial members of the PMC
> > rather than the full list of initial committers.  Was that correct?
> >
> >
> Yes, that is correct.  And sorry, missed the resolution in your initial
> email.


No biggie -- the rest of the incubator needed those templates, so your
harmless oversight had a very positive side-effect.

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Fineract podling graduation

[John D. Ament]

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 8:34 AM Myrle Krantz  wrote:

> Hey Jon,
>
> Cool.  So it'd be something like the text below.  I have a question
> though.  As initial members, I've included the initial members of the PMC
> rather than the full list of initial committers.  Was that correct?
>
>
Yes, that is correct.  And sorry, missed the resolution in your initial
email.


> Thanks again,
> Myrle
>
> (Quoted from the thread's initial e-mail)
> "Establish the Apache Fineract Project
>
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> public, related to a data management platform that provides
> real-time, consistent access to data-intensive applications
> throughout widely distributed cloud architectures.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Fineract Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Fineract Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to a core banking platform that provides a reliable,
> robust, and affordable solution for entrepreneurs, financial
> institutions, and service providers to offer financial
> services to the world's underbanked and unbanked.
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Fineract" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache Fineract Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache Fineract Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache Fineract Project:
>
> * Vishwas Babu AJ 
> * Edward Cable 
> * Markus Geiss 
> * Sander van der Heijden 
> * Ishan Khanna 
> * Myrle Krantz 
> * Terence Monteiro 
> * Adi Nayaran Raju 
> * Gaurav Saini 
> * Nazeer Hussain Shaik 
> * Jim Jagielski 
> * Michael Vorburger 
>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Myrle Krantz
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Fineract, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Fineract PMC be and hereby is
> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache Fineract Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Fineract Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Fineract podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Fineract podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged."
>
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 1:28 PM, John D. Ament 
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 8:18 AM John D. Ament 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 8:07 AM Myrle Krantz  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Jon,
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 11:20 AM, John D. Ament  >
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Understood.  I think Fineract's ready to go.  What I would recommend
> as
> > > > next steps are to draft a proposal in private and agree to that
> > proposal.
> > > > Then you can start the incubator vote.  I'll point out this link to
> you
> > > as
> > > > well: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the informal vote of confidence, and thank you for the link.
> > >
> > > Is the proposal that you're referring to something different than the
> > > proposal I attached to start this thread?  If so, can you give an
> example
> > > please?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Give me a few.  During the last podling graduation, this question came
> up
> > > as well and it was noted that the resolution template isn't on the
> > > website.  That should be the source.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Ok - added the template here:
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation-template.txt
> > And updated
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-resolution to
> > include a link.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Greets,
> > > Myrle
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Fineract podling graduation

[Myrle Krantz]

Hey Jon,

Cool.  So it'd be something like the text below.  I have a question
though.  As initial members, I've included the initial members of the PMC
rather than the full list of initial committers.  Was that correct?

Thanks again,
Myrle

(Quoted from the thread's initial e-mail)
"Establish the Apache Fineract Project


WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
public, related to a data management platform that provides
real-time, consistent access to data-intensive applications
throughout widely distributed cloud architectures.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Fineract Project",
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Fineract Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to a core banking platform that provides a reliable,
robust, and affordable solution for entrepreneurs, financial
institutions, and service providers to offer financial
services to the world's underbanked and unbanked.

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Fineract" be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache Fineract Project, and to have primary responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache Fineract Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache Fineract Project:

* Vishwas Babu AJ 
* Edward Cable 
* Markus Geiss 
* Sander van der Heijden 
* Ishan Khanna 
* Myrle Krantz 
* Terence Monteiro 
* Adi Nayaran Raju 
* Gaurav Saini 
* Nazeer Hussain Shaik 
* Jim Jagielski 
* Michael Vorburger 


NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Myrle Krantz
be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Fineract, to
serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Fineract PMC be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
encourage open development and increased participation in the
Apache Fineract Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Fineract Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator Fineract podling; and be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator Fineract podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged."

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 1:28 PM, John D. Ament 
wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 8:18 AM John D. Ament 
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 8:07 AM Myrle Krantz  wrote:
> >
> > Hey Jon,
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 11:20 AM, John D. Ament 
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > Understood.  I think Fineract's ready to go.  What I would recommend as
> > > next steps are to draft a proposal in private and agree to that
> proposal.
> > > Then you can start the incubator vote.  I'll point out this link to you
> > as
> > > well: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the informal vote of confidence, and thank you for the link.
> >
> > Is the proposal that you're referring to something different than the
> > proposal I attached to start this thread?  If so, can you give an example
> > please?
> >
> >
> >
> > Give me a few.  During the last podling graduation, this question came up
> > as well and it was noted that the resolution template isn't on the
> > website.  That should be the source.
> >
> >
>
> Ok - added the template here:
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation-template.txt
> And updated
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-resolution to
> include a link.
>
>
> >
> > Greets,
> > Myrle
> >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Fineract podling graduation

[John D. Ament]

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 8:18 AM John D. Ament  wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 8:07 AM Myrle Krantz  wrote:
>
> Hey Jon,
>
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 11:20 AM, John D. Ament 
>  wrote:
>
> > Understood.  I think Fineract's ready to go.  What I would recommend as
> > next steps are to draft a proposal in private and agree to that proposal.
> > Then you can start the incubator vote.  I'll point out this link to you
> as
> > well: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel
>
>
> Thanks for the informal vote of confidence, and thank you for the link.
>
> Is the proposal that you're referring to something different than the
> proposal I attached to start this thread?  If so, can you give an example
> please?
>
>
>
> Give me a few.  During the last podling graduation, this question came up
> as well and it was noted that the resolution template isn't on the
> website.  That should be the source.
>
>

Ok - added the template here:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation-template.txt
And updated
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-resolution to
include a link.


>
> Greets,
> Myrle
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Fineract podling graduation

[John D. Ament]

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 8:07 AM Myrle Krantz  wrote:

> Hey Jon,
>
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 11:20 AM, John D. Ament 
>  wrote:
>
> > Understood.  I think Fineract's ready to go.  What I would recommend as
> > next steps are to draft a proposal in private and agree to that proposal.
> > Then you can start the incubator vote.  I'll point out this link to you
> as
> > well: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel
>
>
> Thanks for the informal vote of confidence, and thank you for the link.
>
> Is the proposal that you're referring to something different than the
> proposal I attached to start this thread?  If so, can you give an example
> please?
>


Give me a few.  During the last podling graduation, this question came up
as well and it was noted that the resolution template isn't on the
website.  That should be the source.


>
> Greets,
> Myrle
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Fineract podling graduation

[Myrle Krantz]

Hey Jon,

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 11:20 AM, John D. Ament 
 wrote:

> Understood.  I think Fineract's ready to go.  What I would recommend as
> next steps are to draft a proposal in private and agree to that proposal.
> Then you can start the incubator vote.  I'll point out this link to you as
> well: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel


Thanks for the informal vote of confidence, and thank you for the link.

Is the proposal that you're referring to something different than the
proposal I attached to start this thread?  If so, can you give an example
please?

Greets,
Myrle

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Fineract podling graduation

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

Hi Myrle,

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Myrle Krantz  wrote:
> ...Here was the first time I sent the graduation proposal to the list: [1] ..

ok, thanks for clarifying! Works for me.

-Bertrand

> [1]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fdfa90dd11c90fee87e5e14ff9bfb4dc5b2f726e799d585154250c94@%3Cdev.fineract.apache.org%3E

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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Fineract podling graduation

[John D. Ament]

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 6:05 AM Myrle Krantz  wrote:

> Hi Bertrand,
>
> Here was the first time I sent the graduation proposal to the list: [1]
>
> Roman asked that I send it out again as a DISCUSS thread, which I did in
> the thread you referenced.  We didn't get much response the second time,
> because people had already responded to the first thread.  I held up
> pushing the graduation proposal to the incubator because I wanted to get
> our latest committers in too.
>
>
Understood.  I think Fineract's ready to go.  What I would recommend as
next steps are to draft a proposal in private and agree to that proposal.
Then you can start the incubator vote.  I'll point out this link to you as
well: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel

John


> Greets,
> Myrle
>
> [1]
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fdfa90dd11c90fee87e5e14ff9bfb4dc5b2f726e799d585154250c94@%3Cdev.fineract.apache.org%3E
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
>
> > Hi Myrle,
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Myrle Krantz  wrote:
> > > ...The incubating Apache Fineract community believes it is time to
> > graduate to
> > > TLP...
> >
> > Did you guys have a vote about this? Quickly browsing your dev list I
> > see only [1].
> >
> > Formally you only need an Incubator PMC vote, but a project vote (or
> > at least a DISCUSS thread) where mentors express their approval helps
> > build confidence in the project's readiness for graduation.
> >
> > -Bertrand
> >
> > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c0a85e5f6b455c7ee66233fa07d6b4
> > 8854390529b4dc8ba9ce51758b@%3Cdev.fineract.apache.org%3E
> >
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> >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Fineract podling graduation

[Myrle Krantz]

Hi Bertrand,

Here was the first time I sent the graduation proposal to the list: [1]

Roman asked that I send it out again as a DISCUSS thread, which I did in
the thread you referenced.  We didn't get much response the second time,
because people had already responded to the first thread.  I held up
pushing the graduation proposal to the incubator because I wanted to get
our latest committers in too.

Greets,
Myrle

[1]
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fdfa90dd11c90fee87e5e14ff9bfb4dc5b2f726e799d585154250c94@%3Cdev.fineract.apache.org%3E



On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote:

> Hi Myrle,
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Myrle Krantz  wrote:
> > ...The incubating Apache Fineract community believes it is time to
> graduate to
> > TLP...
>
> Did you guys have a vote about this? Quickly browsing your dev list I
> see only [1].
>
> Formally you only need an Incubator PMC vote, but a project vote (or
> at least a DISCUSS thread) where mentors express their approval helps
> build confidence in the project's readiness for graduation.
>
> -Bertrand
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c0a85e5f6b455c7ee66233fa07d6b4
> 8854390529b4dc8ba9ce51758b@%3Cdev.fineract.apache.org%3E
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Fineract podling graduation

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

Hi Myrle,

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Myrle Krantz  wrote:
> ...The incubating Apache Fineract community believes it is time to graduate to
> TLP...

Did you guys have a vote about this? Quickly browsing your dev list I
see only [1].

Formally you only need an Incubator PMC vote, but a project vote (or
at least a DISCUSS thread) where mentors express their approval helps
build confidence in the project's readiness for graduation.

-Bertrand

[1] 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c0a85e5f6b455c7ee66233fa07d6b48854390529b4dc8ba9ce51758b@%3Cdev.fineract.apache.org%3E

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[DISCUSS] Apache Fineract podling graduation

[Myrle Krantz]

The incubating Apache Fineract community believes it is time to graduate to
TLP.

Apache Fineract entered incubation in December of 2015.  Since then, we've
overcome technical challenges to remove Category X dependencies, and made 3
releases.  Our most recent release contains binary convenience artifacts.
We are a very helpful and engaged community, ready to answer all questions
and feedback directed to us via the user list.  We've added three
committers, and are actively pursuing others. While we do still have issues
to address raised by means of the maturity model, all projects are ongoing
processes, and we believe we no longer need the incubator to continue
addressing these issues.

We are deeply grateful to our Mentors: (Ross Gardler, Roman Shaposhnik,
Greg Stein, and Jim Jagielski) for accompanying us on this journey, and to
other members of the incubator and Infra team who have provided us with
support and advice.  We'd like to return these valuable resources "to the
pool" at this point so that other projects can benefit from them.


To inform the discussion, here is some basic project information:

Project status:
  http://incubator.apache.org/projects/fineract.html

Project website:
  http://fineract.incubator.apache.org/

Project documentation:
   https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Fineract+User+Zone

Maturity assessment:
   https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Maturity+Evaluation


DRAFT of the board resolution is at the bottom of this email and can also
be found here:
  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Graduation+Resolution

Proposed PMC size: 12 members

Total number of committers: 14 members

PMC affiliation (* indicated chair)
   Conflux Technologies (3)
   The Mifos Initiative (1)
 * Kuelap Inc (2)
   Musoni Systems (1)
   SanJose Foundation (1)
   Booking.com (1)
   Red Hat (1)
   Capital One (1)
   Partiko (1)


4,525 commits on develop
255 closed PR”s on GitHub
89 contributors across all branches

dev list averaged ~192 msgs/month in 2016
user list averaged ~13 msgs/month in 2016
81  unique posters

399 issues created
123 issues resolved

committer affiliations
   Conflux Technologies
   The Mifos Initiative
   Kuelap Inc
   Musoni Systems
   SanJose Foundation
   Booking.com
   Red Hat
   Capital One
   Partiko
   Intrasoft Technologies Limited


Thank you,
Myrle Krantz



Resolution:

Establish the Apache Fineract Project

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
public, related to a data management platform that provides
real-time, consistent access to data-intensive applications
throughout widely distributed cloud architectures.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Fineract Project",
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Fineract Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to a core banking platform that provides a reliable,
robust, and affordable solution for entrepreneurs, financial
institutions, and service providers to offer financial
services to the world's underbanked and unbanked.

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Fineract" be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache Fineract Project, and to have primary responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache Fineract Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache Fineract Project:

* Vishwas Babu AJ 
* Edward Cable 
* Markus Geiss 
* Sander van der Heijden 
* Ishan Khanna 
* Myrle Krantz 
* Terence Monteiro 
* Adi Nayaran Raju 
* Gaurav Saini 
* Nazeer Hussain Shaik 
* Jim Jagielski 
* Michael Vorburger 


NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Myrle Krantz
be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Fineract, to
serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Fineract PMC be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
encourage open development and increased participation in the
Apache Fineract Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Fineract Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator Fineract podling; and be