What is Jakarta?

2001-02-06 Thread Ted Husted
Since Java-Apache has apparently never actually been charted by the ASF, why not ask the board go ahead and charter it like the recent PMCs for PHP, Perl, and TCL, e.g. " ... the Apache Java Committee be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to the Java

RE: What is Jakarta?

2001-02-06 Thread Morgan Delagrange
--- Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/6/2001 at 11:26 AM Delagrange, Morgan wrote: Right, but the Jakarta PMC chairman objects to that definition. I'm not sure if Sam Ruby has actually "objected" or not. It is evident that Roy Fielding has objected to the scope of the Jakarta

RE: What is Jakarta?

2001-02-06 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 16:01 06.02.2001 -0500, you wrote: On 2/6/2001 at 9:13 PM Ceki Glc wrote: What would be gained by refining the charter of Jakarta and pruning projects? Roy Fielding has indicated that some action is necessary. His two suggestions were to either ask the board to create additional PMCs, or to

[NOISE] Yaaaaaaaaawwwwnnnnnnnnnnn....

2001-02-06 Thread Jon Stevens
http://java.sun.com/features/2001/02/launch.html http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20010205S0031 This makes me sad. This just solidifies the fact that all Sun is trying to do is copy M$ and not actually innovate anything because JSP is nothing better than a Java version of ASP. Come on guys,

Re: What is Jakarta?

2001-02-06 Thread Jon Stevens
on 2/6/01 5:04 PM, "Ted Husted" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still don't quite get why this is such an issue. The efficiency of a pool comes from sharing connections that use the same login to the same database. It would be likely that Jetspeed, Turbine, and Struts may all want to connect to

Re: What is Struts? (was: Re: What is Avalon?)

2001-02-06 Thread Peter Donald
At 11:54 6/2/01 -0800, James Duncan Davidson wrote: On 2/2/01 12:56 PM, "Peter Donald" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consider the case of select() style functionality - why has not that been added. It's not because it isn't portable, nor is it because it is technically hard or a design challenge.

Re: [NOISE] Yaaaaaaaaawwwwnnnnnnnnnnn....

2001-02-06 Thread Ted Husted
Didn't Sun announce StarPortal first? There were definitely a lot of cosmetic similarities between ASP and JSP when it was first introduced. But Sun did get the important thing right: JSPs are just another way to write servlets, and have full access to the Java language. Meanwhile, I do agree

Re: What is Struts? (was: Re: What is Avalon?)

2001-02-06 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Conclusion ?? (it should be obvious). Conclusion: They pay my salary, and make me happy... If you want a select() call, it's as easy as 1...2...3... to write it using JNI... Pier :)

Re: Back to Avalon...

2001-02-06 Thread Peter Donald
hi, At 02:06 2/2/01 -0800, Jon Stevens wrote: Then you should be suggesting another top level project be created instead of creating a pseudo project that is half within Avalon and half within the top level namespace. Just like there is for Jetspeed. No one else commented on this from PMC so