Re: Can I use Hibernate in an Apache project without compromising the Apache License?

2004-09-27 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
Thanks Tim! I really appreciate your help! Such an answer would be great. If it is definitely impossbile to use Hibernate I should be fine with OJB as well. Olli Tim O'Brien wrote: For Oliver's sake, could we submit the question to ASF counsel and see if there is any way to allow us to use

Re: Can I use Hibernate in an Apache project without compromising the Apache License?

2004-09-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Sep 27, 2004, at 11:37 AM, Tim O'Brien wrote: For Oliver's sake, could we submit the question to ASF counsel and see if there is any way to allow us to use Hibernate in even the most round about way. Our counsel would have no opinion different than what you've heard. We (the ASF) have tried

Re: Can I use Hibernate in an Apache project without compromising the Apache License?

2004-09-27 Thread Martin Cooper
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:06:09 +0200, Oliver Zeigermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I understand I can not check in the jar. But what about having it included in a Maven like build with dynamically downloading it. Theoretically, I suspect you could write such a build target, but you would not be

Re: Can I use Hibernate in an Apache project without compromising the Apache License?

2004-09-27 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: This is an issue important to me as well - I'd like to see this go away, so we can use software w/ the LGPL. But until the problem is resolved, right now the only way is to use via a dynamic dispatch mechanism. I've been thinking about this for a

Re: Can I use Hibernate in an Apache project without compromising the Apache License?

2004-09-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Sep 27, 2004, at 4:41 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: This is an issue important to me as well - I'd like to see this go away, so we can use software w/ the LGPL. But until the problem is resolved, right now the only way is to use via a dynamic

Re: Can I use Hibernate in an Apache project without compromising the Apache License?

2004-09-27 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: On Sep 27, 2004, at 4:41 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: This is an issue important to me as well - I'd like to see this go away, so we can use software w/ the LGPL. But until the problem is resolved, right now the only way is to

Re: Can I use Hibernate in an Apache project without compromising the Apache License?

2004-09-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Sep 27, 2004, at 4:20 PM, Oliver Zeigermann wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: On Sep 27, 2004, at 4:41 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: This is an issue important to me as well - I'd like to see this go away, so we can use software w/ the LGPL. But until

RE: Can I use Hibernate in an Apache project without compromising the Apache License?

2004-09-27 Thread Tim O'Brien
-Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] board_hat no /board_hat Alright, that's a clear answer. Thanks for bringing out the board_hat xml tag. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: Can I use Hibernate in an Apache project without compromising the Apache License?

2004-09-27 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Sep 27, 2004, at 4:20 PM, Oliver Zeigermann wrote: I know I keep repeating myself all the time, but for the special case of Hibernate doesn't this http://www.hibernate.org/196.html From the link above: Using Hibernate (by importing Hibernate's public interfaces in your Java code), and

Re: Can I use Hibernate in an Apache project without compromising the Apache License?

2004-09-27 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
Thanks to all coming the long way to explain to me and being patient. Bottom line: http://www.hibernate.org/196.html does not mean anything as authors (might) change their mind (Dain) it's just some web page - it's not part of the license (LGPL) (Geir). So there is no way to use Hibernate or