Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-22 Thread Vic Cekvenich
BIG SNIP Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: ... sensitive things should be on the PMC list, and non-sensitive things should be on the general@ list. /end Geir What could be something that is sensteive in an open source community? This is new direction. Gray areas should be well exposed. If you are

www.apache.org down?

2003-12-21 Thread Vic Cekvenich
It seems that www.apache.org and jakarta.apache.org, etc. are down. Could be my isp but... .V ps: open source != closed list - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[HiveMind] Where?

2003-12-01 Thread Vic Cekvenich
I personally would like to use HiveMind for Struts, just like commons resources, beautils, validator, etc, were spun out of Struts so it could be shared, and placed in Commons or Commons Saundbox (a safe place to play). HiveMind AFAIK was a Tapestry Component, but could/should be used by

Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

2003-11-11 Thread Vic Cekvenich
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I think that this is the right list, very few people are intrested about the incubator. This is about ASF reputation. (It is also about the OSS reputation, including BSD, Linux, CodeHus, etc.) Due to this Stein mistake OSS could be view as very lowest form. Makes me

Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

2003-11-11 Thread Vic Cekvenich
Scott Tavares wrote: Geezz relax Vic, . I can not understand why you are so passionate about this. Sincerely I think this is bad for open source and for sofware, which is where I do make a living. This is great for comercail vendors, proving that open source are... less ethical. What

Call on Stein to resin

2003-11-10 Thread Vic Cekvenich
http://theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=22337#101159 http://theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=22337#101173 I call on Greg Stein to resign. .V - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

2003-11-10 Thread Vic Cekvenich
I repeat: http://theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=22337#101159 Geir, are you supporting his actions, the ethics in here, denying what that developer is saying, ie: that is not his code? I know my code when I see it. What part are you supporting, all of it? -Stein is the one that

Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

2003-11-10 Thread Vic Cekvenich
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: The ASF treats the allegations of code copying very seriously, and will take what actions are necessary to ensure that no IP rights are violated, any offending code, if found, is removed, and any other appropriate action is taken. GREAT!!! That is 99% of what I

Re: JSP editor for Eclipse

2003-10-27 Thread Vic Cekvenich
I have been using colorer plug in, that supports all html, jsp and xml, plus some. https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=34855 .V Ceki Gülcü wrote: Hello all, I am looking for a JSP editor for Eclipse. Any recommendations on this front? -- Victor Cekvenich, Struts Instructor

OT: CNBC TV on Sun in 3 minutes (EOM)

2003-10-02 Thread Vic Cekvenich
OT: CNBC TV on Sun in 3 minutes (EOM) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Apache vote on TCK re Sun

2003-06-25 Thread Vic Cekvenich
http://www.theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=20005 http://www.theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=19942 As per above I Quote: though IBM and Motorola still voted no. There also appear to be some disagreements within the JCP board about the licensing of these specs. Sun

Apache vote on TCK re Sun

2003-06-25 Thread Vic Cekvenich
http://www.theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=20005 http://www.theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=19942 As per above I Quote: though IBM and Motorola still voted no. There also appear to be some disagreements within the JCP board about the licensing of these specs. Sun

Re: Sun

2003-05-31 Thread Vic Cekvenich
that the other vendors did not even try, becuase they self certified. Peace, .V Pier Fumagalli wrote: Vic Cekvenich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI: The rumor is from developers I know of a commercial J2EE vendor that no one passes all the tests. But since they pay, that makes you certified. I worked

Re: Sun

2003-05-29 Thread Vic Cekvenich
FYI: The rumor is from developers I know of a commercial J2EE vendor that no one passes all the tests. But since they pay, that makes you certified. Good?: I like free software, pay for services model. It's better than pay us for software, pay us to fix it model. Imagine all the budgeting

OT: OPen source required?

2003-02-28 Thread Vic Cekvenich
http://news.com.com/2100-1001-272299.html Not sure if forceing is a good option, but I think any sofware pruchase should include source code. .V - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail:

MS vs Open Source link

2003-02-20 Thread Vic Cekvenich
Overall a good article. http://news.com.com/2100-1001-985221.html?tag=fd_top The scary thing is I have heard clients that they think that if they use any open source... now their software is open source or in a conflict with comerical software they are using. .V

Re: Incubator New Project Proposal: basicPortal.sf.net

2003-02-05 Thread Vic Cekvenich
and place on Jakarta, if you like the idea. more info at basicPortal.sf.net Vic Cekvenich - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Incubator New Project Proposal: basicPortal.sf.net

2003-02-05 Thread Vic Cekvenich
, project is dual platform. .V Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Personally I stopped reading when it said .exe because it meant won't run on any of your servers.. I didn't think this feedback was worth providing, but there you have it. Hope it helps. Vic Cekvenich wrote: - Hello? - Go away, the Wizard

Incubator New Project Proposal: basicPortal.sf.net

2003-02-04 Thread Vic Cekvenich
and just do the missing parts. It is always in the top 10% of sf.net and has about 1,600 downloads per month. I would like to re-package the screens/src and place on Jakarta, if you like the idea. more info at basicPortal.sf.net Vic Cekvenich

[Fwd: Re: JakartaOne

2002-03-04 Thread Vic Cekvenich
I would be happy to sponsor a hotel conference room, ie. FREE room, screen and projector on the 28th, say noon - end of day. (I have paid for an extra room) I am holding a paid Struts class AM on the same day. Let me know if/how I can assist more. Feel free to fill up the agenda, I could do

EJB = bad = MS.net

2002-02-20 Thread Vic Cekvenich
Home page of Jakarta has this http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html#0130.2 on this: http://www.mail-archive.com/general%40jakarta.apache.org/msg03376.html I agree. Doing EJBs is bad on many levels and creates more problems. Avoid EJB if you want to stay in Java. Alternative is to just use