Re: [discuss] Slide + HttpComponents = TLP

2007-08-24 Thread Henri Yandell
On 8/18/07, Oleg Kalnichevski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2007-08-18 at 13:40 +0200, Roland Weber wrote: Disassociation from the server side. What is the benefit of that? At any rate in my opinion it is not worth trouble of rebranding the whole project. Will the current

Re: [discuss] Slide + HttpComponents = TLP

2007-08-19 Thread Roland Weber
Oleg Kalnichevski wrote: Will the current [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing lists continue to exist alongside [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED], where the Slide WebDAV client finds a new home? Yes, as aliases. Then server-related discussions would end up on the mailing

Re: [discuss] Slide + HttpComponents = TLP

2007-08-18 Thread Oleg Kalnichevski
On Sat, 2007-08-18 at 09:25 +0200, Roland Weber wrote: Oleg Kalnichevski wrote: Could you live with HttpComponents being the name of the new TLP? I would really like to avoid having to come up with a completely new name for the project. HttpComponents use the package org.apache.http. I

Re: [discuss] Slide + HttpComponents = TLP

2007-08-18 Thread Roland Weber
Oleg Kalnichevski wrote: What's wrong with org.apache.slide for WebDAV components? If we're not taking over the full Slide codebase, and if Slide\{WebDAV-client} is not officially declared dormant in Jakarta, then we'd have two independent projects using the same namespace. Since a WebDAV

Re: [discuss] Slide + HttpComponents = TLP

2007-08-18 Thread Oleg Kalnichevski
On Sat, 2007-08-18 at 11:49 +0200, Roland Weber wrote: Oleg Kalnichevski wrote: What's wrong with org.apache.slide for WebDAV components? If we're not taking over the full Slide codebase, and if Slide\{WebDAV-client} is not officially declared dormant in Jakarta, then we'd have two

Re: [discuss] Slide + HttpComponents = TLP

2007-08-18 Thread Roland Weber
Oleg Kalnichevski wrote: If there are no plans to develop non-client bits any further, That exactly is my concern. I still hope for some more input from Slide developers. I personally think WebDAV client should keep Slide as its name. I could live with that. Slide is a well established

Re: [discuss] Slide + HttpComponents = TLP

2007-08-18 Thread Oleg Kalnichevski
On Sat, 2007-08-18 at 12:21 +0200, Roland Weber wrote: Oleg Kalnichevski wrote: If there are no plans to develop non-client bits any further, That exactly is my concern. I still hope for some more input from Slide developers. I personally think WebDAV client should keep Slide as its

Re: [discuss] Slide + HttpComponents = TLP

2007-08-18 Thread Roland Weber
Disassociation from the server side. What is the benefit of that? At any rate in my opinion it is not worth trouble of rebranding the whole project. Will the current [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing lists continue to exist alongside [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: [discuss] Slide + HttpComponents = TLP

2007-08-18 Thread Oleg Kalnichevski
On Sat, 2007-08-18 at 13:40 +0200, Roland Weber wrote: Disassociation from the server side. What is the benefit of that? At any rate in my opinion it is not worth trouble of rebranding the whole project. Will the current [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing lists continue

Re: [discuss] Slide + HttpComponents = TLP

2007-08-11 Thread Oleg Kalnichevski
Oliver Zeigermann wrote: 2007/8/10, Roland Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: While I would like to get rid of HttpClient 3.x rather sooner than later, there's no denyig that it will stay with us for several years to come. From this angle, it would make sense to move the WebDAV client as it is.

Re: [discuss] Slide + HttpComponents = TLP

2007-08-11 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
Could you live with HttpComponents being the name of the new TLP? I would really like to avoid having to come up with a completely new name for the project. The name is ugly and unwieldy but we have already had a number of public releases so it is more or less established. If yes, consider

Re: [discuss] Slide + HttpComponents = TLP

2007-08-10 Thread Roland Weber
While I would like to get rid of HttpClient 3.x rather sooner than later, there's no denyig that it will stay with us for several years to come. From this angle, it would make sense to move the WebDAV client as it is. Maybe that could be the first step. If there is a reasonable interest of

Re: [discuss] Slide + HttpComponents = TLP

2007-08-10 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
2007/8/10, Roland Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Oliver Zeigermann wrote: Martin's and also my hopes had been that when the - indeed useful - WebDAV client was moved to a different project it could actually be revived. Reasons are that it is functional, useful and of much less complexity than

Re: [discuss] Slide + HttpComponents = TLP

2007-08-10 Thread Roland Weber
Oliver Zeigermann wrote: Martin's and also my hopes had been that when the - indeed useful - WebDAV client was moved to a different project it could actually be revived. Reasons are that it is functional, useful and of much less complexity than the server. I would at least volunteer to

Re: [discuss] Slide + HttpComponents = TLP

2007-08-10 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
2007/8/6, Roland Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Oleg Kalnichevski wrote: Slide seems pretty inactive at the moment. I am just wondering how many developers out there would be willing to contribute on a more or less regular basis to the maintenance and further development of Slide, or the new

Re: [discuss] Slide + HttpComponents = TLP

2007-08-10 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
2007/8/10, Roland Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: While I would like to get rid of HttpClient 3.x rather sooner than later, there's no denyig that it will stay with us for several years to come. From this angle, it would make sense to move the WebDAV client as it is. Maybe that could be the

Re: [discuss] Slide + HttpComponents = TLP

2007-08-06 Thread Roland Weber
Oleg Kalnichevski wrote: Slide seems pretty inactive at the moment. I am just wondering how many developers out there would be willing to contribute on a more or less regular basis to the maintenance and further development of Slide, or the new TLP will effectively end up tasked with the job

Re: [discuss] Slide + HttpComponents = TLP

2007-08-03 Thread Oleg Kalnichevski
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 18:45 +0200, Roland Weber wrote: Hi all, ... I've been following the Slide [3] developer list for about two months, and I've read through their home page. The last release was at the end of 2004, and development seems to have basically stopped then. Slide comprises

[discuss] Slide + HttpComponents = TLP

2007-08-02 Thread Roland Weber
Hi all, two months ago, Martin contacted Slide and HttpComponents [1a,1b] with the idea of joining them into a new Top Level Project (TLP). The initial response was positive on both sides, and I feel it is time to get the ball rolling. I'm starting this discussion thread to establish a common