Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
On Sep 29, 2004, at 4:56 AM, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
The problem, AFAIU, is that this Maven's code now has to become LGPL
licensed itself, due to LGPL license requirements. And ASF
repositories can't contain LGPL code. So the answer is to pull
(quickly) this code from
> The problem is that for java, there are questions about the clarity of
> the provisions in the license that prevent the virality from taking
> effect, which is why the ASF doesn't allow LGPLed java usage.
I believe that a specific example is implementing an interface where the
interface is LGP
> No - LGPL isn't viral unless you make derivative works of the LGPL-ed
> code itself. Just using an LGPL-ed codebase as a library does not
> trigger the virality.
>
> The problem is that for java, there are questions about the clarity of
> the provisions in the license that prevent the vir
On Sep 29, 2004, at 4:56 AM, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 11:11, Brett Porter wrote:
is not ASF License compliant?
If yes, than I would really hate to have to point you at
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/maven-plugins/hibernate/src/main/
org/apache/m
On Sep 29, 2004, at 3:50 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 11:11, Brett Porter wrote:
is not ASF License compliant?
If yes, than I would really hate to have to point you at
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/maven-plugins/hibernate/src/main/
org/apache/maven/hibernate/beans/Sc
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 11:11, Brett Porter wrote:
is not ASF License compliant?
If yes, than I would really hate to have to point you at
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/maven-plugins/hibernate/src/main/org/apache/maven/hibernate/beans/SchemaExpor
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, [iso-8859-1] Endre Stølsvik wrote:
| > The problem, AFAIU, is that this Maven's code now has to become LGPL licensed
| > itself, due to LGPL license requirements. And ASF repositories can't contain
| > LGPL code. So the answer is to pull (quickly) this code from Maven, and not
| > The problem, AFAIU, is that this Maven's code now has to become LGPL licensed
| > itself, due to LGPL license requirements. And ASF repositories can't contain
| > LGPL code. So the answer is to pull (quickly) this code from Maven, and not to
| > introduce to Slide.
|
| Incorrect. Unless maven c
Martin van den Bemt wrote:
On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 13:56, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 11:11, Brett Porter wrote:
is not ASF License compliant?
If yes, than I would really hate to have to point you at
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/maven-plugins/hibe
On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 13:56, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 11:11, Brett Porter wrote:
> >
> >>>is not ASF License compliant?
> >>>
> >>>If yes, than I would really hate to have to point you at
> >>>
> >>>http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/maven-
Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 11:11, Brett Porter wrote:
is not ASF License compliant?
If yes, than I would really hate to have to point you at
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/maven-plugins/hibernate/src/main/org/apache/maven/hibernate/beans/SchemaExportBean.java?annotate=1.
On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 11:11, Brett Porter wrote:
> > is not ASF License compliant?
> >
> > If yes, than I would really hate to have to point you at
> >
> > http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/maven-plugins/hibernate/src/main/org/apache/maven/hibernate/beans/SchemaExportBean.java?annotate=1.7
> >
>
Hi Noel,
>
> Mahler Thomas wrote:
> > You might consider Using Apache OJB (http://db.apache.org/ojb).
> > It can do everything that hibernate can do - and more.
>
> We don't hear much (enough?) about OJB. Has anyone written
> up an "OJB for
> Hibernate Users" type document?
I think that's a v
Hi Oliver,
>
>
> I was considering OJB as well and it is my fall back solution. I am a
> little bit familiar with Hibernate so it was my natural
> choice. Anyway,
> could you give me a link to the "and more" or tell me a
> little bit about it?
Generally speaking OJB and hibernate have compa
> is not ASF License compliant?
>
> If yes, than I would really hate to have to point you at
>
> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/maven-plugins/hibernate/src/main/org/apache/maven/hibernate/beans/SchemaExportBean.java?annotate=1.7
>
> This would compromise all Maven releases that include the
>
On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 00:15, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> On Sep 27, 2004, at 11:37 AM, Tim O'Brien wrote:
>
> > For Oliver's sake, could we submit the question to ASF counsel and see
> > if there is any way to allow us to use Hibernate in even the most round
> > about way.
> >
>
> Our counsel wou
Thanks to all coming the long way to explain to me and being patient.
Bottom line: http://www.hibernate.org/196.html does not mean anything as
"authors (might) change their mind" (Dain) "it's just some web page -
it's not part of the license (LGPL)" (Geir). So there is no way to use
Hibernate
On Sep 27, 2004, at 4:20 PM, Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
I know I keep repeating myself all the time, but for the special case
of Hibernate doesn't this
http://www.hibernate.org/196.html
From the link above:
"Using Hibernate (by importing Hibernate's public interfaces in your
Java code), and extend
> -Original Message-
> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> no
>
>
Alright, that's a clear answer. Thanks for bringing out the board_hat
xml tag.
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On Sep 27, 2004, at 4:20 PM, Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
On Sep 27, 2004, at 4:41 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
This is an issue important to me as well - I'd like to see this go
away, so we can use software w/ the LGPL. But until t
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
On Sep 27, 2004, at 4:41 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
This is an issue important to me as well - I'd like to see this go
away, so we can use software w/ the LGPL. But until the problem is
resolved, right now the only way is to
On Sep 27, 2004, at 4:41 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
This is an issue important to me as well - I'd like to see this go
away, so we can use software w/ the LGPL. But until the problem is
resolved, right now the only way is to use via a dynamic dispatc
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
This is an issue important to me as well - I'd like to see this go away, so
we can use software w/ the LGPL. But until the problem is resolved, right
now the only way is to use via a dynamic dispatch mechanism.
I've been thinking about this for a
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:06:09 +0200, Oliver Zeigermann
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, I understand I can not check in the jar. But what about having it
> included in a Maven like build with dynamically downloading it.
Theoretically, I suspect you could write such a build target, but you
would not
Tim O'Brien
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Mahler Thomas wrote:
You might consider Usin
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Subject: RE: Can I use Hibernate in an Apache project without
compromising the Apache License?
Mahler Thomas wrote:
You might consider Using Apache OJB (http://db.apache.org/ojb).
It can do everything that hibernate can do - and more.
We don't hear much (enough?) about
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