except that licence, is only used in Middle English
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From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 1:20 AM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: Re: [VOTE] ASL vs. GPL page: is this okay?
Are you referring to the noun or the verb
Ceki are you sure?
I think we definitely need a solid document countering the
idyllic but false world depicted
by the FSF.
I agree with comments you have made already, about the importance of licence
and legal to ASF, Jakarta, and individuals involved, but I'm still not
convinced that
From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
The question is: How do you want to spend your time?
Possible answers:
1 Fighting an unwinnable (defined as the argument having a logical
conclusion where one side overwhelmingly wins) religious war with the
GNU hordes (hirds? hurds?
Hi Ceki,
-Mensaje original-
De: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Enviado el: miércoles 6 de marzo de 2002 23:39
Para: Jakarta General List
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Asunto: Re: [VOTE] ASL vs. GPL page: is this okay?
The Working Without Copyleft article is remarkably good. The point
about
you have the option of following the terms and conditions
either of that version or of any later version published by the Free
Software Foundation. If the Library does not specify a license version
number, you may choose any version ever published by the Free Software
Foundation.
Sounds
At 09:16 07/03/02, Danny Angus wrote:
It is spelled licence. ;-)
Wow - we managed to correct Jon on a technical point! (Just kidding Jon -
no offence)
licenSe is what Apache Software Foundation does - ie the act of licensing.
licenCe is the document or permit given - eg the file itself.
http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=license
http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=licence
alex wrote:
At 09:16 07/03/02, Danny Angus wrote:
It is spelled licence. ;-)
Wow - we managed to correct Jon on a technical point! (Just kidding Jon -
no offence)
licenSe is what Apache
Hi Alex,
You are absolutely right. I thought I had this one nailed but
apparently not. Thank you for pointing out my mistake. Regards, Ceki
Asunto: Re: [VOTE] ASL vs. GPL page: is this okay?
The Working Without Copyleft article is remarkably good. The point
about the FSF controlling the LGPL
Ceki are you sure?
I think we definitely need a solid document countering the
idyllic but false world depicted
by the FSF.
I agree with comments you have made already, about the importance of licence
and legal to ASF, Jakarta, and individuals involved, but I'm still not
convinced that
Ceki,
My own personal experience indicates that if you first seek consesus
before acting, you are likely to never get anywhere. Regards, Ceki
Point taken, however in this case surely some degree of peer approval needs
to be gained before people publicly express views as the views of the
On 3/7/02 8:06 AM, Danny Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ceki,
My own personal experience indicates that if you first seek consesus
before acting, you are likely to never get anywhere. Regards, Ceki
Point taken, however in this case surely some degree of peer approval needs
to be
Jeff Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
As promised, I've written up an ASL vs. GPL page, for possible
inclusion on jakarta-site2. I've more tried to capture the spirit of the
thing from the Apache POV, than duplicate the detailed arguments in the
O'Reilly article referenced at the end.
Marc Saegesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would love to see a document describes the Apache Software License, the
philosophy behind it and why we think the ASL is a good thing. What I don't
want is another tirade about why GPL sucks.
That's a good thing (TM) ,but, as well, I don't think
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Subject: Re: [VOTE] ASL vs. GPL page: is this okay?
http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=license
http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=licence
alex wrote:
At 09:16 07/03/02, Danny Angus wrote
-1
I'm not sure we need this at all.
If it stopped after the first paragraph and didn't mention copyleft and GPL
in the title I'd be -0.
Shouldn't this really be an ASF level decision instead of a Jakarta level
one?
Marc Saegesser
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Turner
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 08:46:51AM +1100, Jeff Turner wrote:
Hi,
As promised, I've written up an ASL vs. GPL page, for possible
inclusion on jakarta-site2.
...
Please vote on whether you think the reasons outlined here are
sufficiently representative. Constructive criticism and change
Jeff,
Kudos for having the courage to proceed with this. Comments inline.
At 08:46 07.03.2002 +1100, Jeff Turner wrote:
Hi,
As promised, I've written up an ASL vs. GPL page, for possible
inclusion on jakarta-site2. I've more tried to capture the spirit of the
thing from the Apache POV, than
At 16:17 06.03.2002 -0600, you wrote:
-1
I'm not sure we need this at all.
I disagree. I think we definitely need a solid document countering the
idyllic but false world depicted
by the FSF. It's just a gargantuan task to come up with a such a document.
Regards, Ceki
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-Original Message-
From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:43 PM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: RE: [VOTE] ASL vs. GPL page: is this okay?
At 16:17 06.03.2002 -0600, you wrote:
-1
I'm not sure we need this at all.
I
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:38:42PM +0100, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
Jeff,
Kudos for having the courage to proceed with this. Comments inline.
:) It's not easy or fun.
At 08:46 07.03.2002 +1100, Jeff Turner wrote:
...
Why prefer the ASL to a copyleft license (eg GPL)?
Saegesser
-Original Message-
From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:43 PM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: RE: [VOTE] ASL vs. GPL page: is this okay?
At 16:17 06.03.2002 -0600, you wrote:
-1
I'm not sure we need
on 3/6/02 4:52 PM, Marc Saegesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would love to see a document describes the Apache Software License, the
philosophy behind it and why we think the ASL is a good thing.
Probably suggesting more content for this page would be a good idea:
On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 20:28, Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
on 3/6/02 4:52 PM, Marc Saegesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would love to see a document describes the Apache Software License, the
philosophy behind it and why we think the ASL is a good thing.
Probably suggesting more content for
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 07:47:49PM -0500, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
My opinion is you've come across just about as objective as Richard
Stallman would be in the Microsoft Beta testing program.
:- Pretending to be objective is not my strong point.
No offense but this is EXACTLY the opposite
On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 21:07, Jeff Turner wrote:
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 07:47:49PM -0500, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
My opinion is you've come across just about as objective as Richard
Stallman would be in the Microsoft Beta testing program.
:- Pretending to be objective is not my strong
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