RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-06 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
to be in order... blah. Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Richard Kirby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 11:54 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds EJB2 does allow for automatic generation of freaking

Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-06 Thread Jon Stevens
on 12/5/01 11:27 PM, Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a case in point, I would like to point out EJB CMP as an example of design-driven technology which may very well look really stupid in another few years, especially given its atrociously slow mutation rate. If anyone who was

RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-06 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Last time I talked to Eduardo (the spec lead for JSP) he still had never written a real webapp with it. Lemmings! Isn't the JDK 1.4's logging API story similar? The guys did not pay that much attention to Ceki's remarks, did they? And in terms of logging-in-Java, Ceki is THE authority,

Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-06 Thread Jon Stevens
on 12/6/01 2:05 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last time I talked to Eduardo (the spec lead for JSP) he still had never written a real webapp with it. Lemmings! Isn't the JDK 1.4's logging API story similar? The guys did not pay that much attention to Ceki's remarks, did

RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-05 Thread Neville Burnell
their products are still around, still evolving, but those corporations are long gone -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2001 10:55 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds Neville Burnell [EMAIL

RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-05 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
, December 05, 2001 2:22 PM To: 'Jakarta General List' Subject: RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds their products are still around, still evolving, but those corporations are long gone -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 4 December

RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-05 Thread Richard Kirby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jeff Schnitzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 06 December 2001 07:28 To: Jakarta General List Subject: RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds cut As a case in point, I would like to point out EJB CMP as an example of design-driven technology

Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-03 Thread Kevin A. Burton
Neville Burnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: anyone remember Lotus Developments and WordPerfect Corporation ... they had billions in the bank too snip Lotus == IBM WordPerfect == Corel. Still around... just different names :) -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL

Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-02 Thread Kurt Schrader
The article at http://kerneltrap.org/article.php?sid=398 shows much of this thread, including why Linus thinks Sun is doomed. Kurt On Sunday, December 2, 2001, at 02:39 PM, Jon Stevens wrote: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl2361245693dhl=enselm=linux.kernel.

Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-02 Thread Kevin A. Burton
Jon Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl2361245693dhl=enselm=linux.kernel. Pine.LNX.4.33.0111301643170.1224-10%40penguin.transmeta.com I wonder why he says Sun is doomed. I always wonder how people can say any of these companies are doomed. They

Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 3 December 2001 11:46 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds Jon Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl2361245693dhl=enselm=linux.ker nel. Pine.LNX.4.33.0111301643170.1224-10