Forum Software for Jakarta?
It would seem to me that the installation of a forum on the Jakarta site would dramatically improve communication and the ability of the users to collaborate on using and improving Jakarta software. PhpBB, for example, is free and can be downloaded from www.phpBB.com and offers many of the features users would find helpful. I would highly suggest this move for the Jakarta site. -- Robert
Re: Forum Software for Jakarta?
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:26, Robert Simmons wrote: It would seem to me that the installation of a forum on the Jakarta site would dramatically improve communication and the ability of the users to collaborate on using and improving Jakarta software. PhpBB, for example, is free and can be downloaded from www.phpBB.com and offers many of the features users would find helpful. I would highly suggest this move for the Jakarta site. checkout nagoya.apache.org. It has a forum ... no one uses it ;) -- Cheers, Peter Donald *-* | Contrary to popular belief, UNIX is user-friendly. It | | just happens to be selective on who it makes friendship | | with. | | - Richard Cook| *-* -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forum Software for Jakarta?
What I meant is on the main Jakarta site. I have used Jakarta for a while and never even knew about that address. Probably the reason no one uses it. Mailing lists are not as good as forums for communication. --Robert - Original Message - From: Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Forum Software for Jakarta? On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:26, Robert Simmons wrote: It would seem to me that the installation of a forum on the Jakarta site would dramatically improve communication and the ability of the users to collaborate on using and improving Jakarta software. PhpBB, for example, is free and can be downloaded from www.phpBB.com and offers many of the features users would find helpful. I would highly suggest this move for the Jakarta site. checkout nagoya.apache.org. It has a forum ... no one uses it ;) -- Cheers, Peter Donald *-* | Contrary to popular belief, UNIX is user-friendly. It | | just happens to be selective on who it makes friendship | | with. | | - Richard Cook| *-* -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forum Software for Jakarta?
I'd disagree. I've yet to see a web based forum that has searching/threading of discussions that are as good as what a mail client can do, or one where I can have the entire forum offline with me while I read/reply at my leisure. Since you mention a specific example, I've experienced phpBB (on the shatters.net forum for celestia) . Its got a very weak discussion model; there is one message at the 'top' of a discussion within a forum, and all other messages are assumed to be replies to that one. This makes it more difficult to follow what short messages are in reply /to/. A further problem with forums is that they would balkanize discussion of projects. You end up having to read /both/ the mailing list and the forum to find things out. An example of something like this is the irc channels that the maven project uses[1] - more than once you'll see folk being referred from irc to the eyebrowse mail archives, or from the mailing list to irc, to get background on whats going on. Web forums would do the same, and I can't see a single advantage of web forums other than getting a cartoon character at the side of your message? If you want something more forum-y, you could try using the newsfeed version of the mailing lists on gmane? Cheers, Baz Disclaimer - not a committer, so my opinion doesnt even matter to me ;) [1] I'm not arguing against IRC here. It provides real-time comms, while mail/news/forums allow responses to be delayed until sunup in your TZ. Robert Simmons wrote: What I meant is on the main Jakarta site. I have used Jakarta for a while and never even knew about that address. Probably the reason no one uses it. Mailing lists are not as good as forums for communication. --Robert - Original Message - From: Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Forum Software for Jakarta? On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:26, Robert Simmons wrote: It would seem to me that the installation of a forum on the Jakarta site would dramatically improve communication and the ability of the users to collaborate on using and improving Jakarta software. PhpBB, for example, is free and can be downloaded from www.phpBB.com and offers many of the features users would find helpful. I would highly suggest this move for the Jakarta site. checkout nagoya.apache.org. It has a forum ... no one uses it ;) -- Cheers, Peter Donald *-* | Contrary to popular belief, UNIX is user-friendly. It | | just happens to be selective on who it makes friendship | | with. | | - Richard Cook| *-* -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Privacy and Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this E-Mail message is intended only for the person or persons to whom it is addressed. Such information is confidential and privileged and no mistake in transmission is intended to waive or compromise such privilege. If you have received it in error, please destroy it and notify us on the telephone number printed above. If you do not receive complete and legible copies, please telephone us immediately. Any opinions expressed herein including attachments are those of the author only. i-documentsystems Ltd. does not accept responsibility for the accuracy or completeness of the information provided or for any changes to this Email, however made, after it was sent. (Please note that it is your responsibility to scan this message for viruses). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forum Software for Jakarta?
[Someone else just emailed this, but sending to show my agreement] There's that GMane thing that lets you view the mailing lists as a forum? Personally I've not found any forums as easy to use as a mailing list. Communication in a community is in three ways: 1) Multi-cast 2) Direct communication, 1 to 1 3) Specific broadcast to a select group Mailing lists are good at 1), via a list like this, they can do 2 via simple email and 3 via specific mailing lists. It's hard to run a thread across them though. A forum is worse. It can do 1 well. 3 can be done, though a bit of a pain. 2 usually relies on internal mail on the forum, or external links into your email. IRC is good for all three, but lacks another important aspect, persistence. I prefer the 'mud' communication, but they're analagous to irc I guess. IRC also lacks the concept of threading. This is descending into my pointless opinion on communication :) Hen On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Robert Simmons wrote: What I meant is on the main Jakarta site. I have used Jakarta for a while and never even knew about that address. Probably the reason no one uses it. Mailing lists are not as good as forums for communication. --Robert - Original Message - From: Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Forum Software for Jakarta? On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:26, Robert Simmons wrote: It would seem to me that the installation of a forum on the Jakarta site would dramatically improve communication and the ability of the users to collaborate on using and improving Jakarta software. PhpBB, for example, is free and can be downloaded from www.phpBB.com and offers many of the features users would find helpful. I would highly suggest this move for the Jakarta site. checkout nagoya.apache.org. It has a forum ... no one uses it ;) -- Cheers, Peter Donald *-* | Contrary to popular belief, UNIX is user-friendly. It | | just happens to be selective on who it makes friendship | | with. | | - Richard Cook| *-* -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forum Software for Jakarta?
on 2003/1/15 3:12 AM, Robert Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mailing lists are not as good as forums for communication. --Robert That is your opinion. They have worked well here since 1997. I hate the idea that I would have to go check a website to read discussions and I hate the text input fields on web browsers as an editor. Part of why I also hate wiki...same problem. I can have the website email me when there is an update, but then that defeats the purpose. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forum Software for Jakarta?
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Henri Yandell wrote: IRC is good for all three, but lacks another important aspect, persistence. IRC Persistence: http://irc.werken.com/channels/maven/ -Kurt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forum Software for Jakarta?
Part of why I also hate wiki...same problem. I can have the website email me when there is an update, but then that defeats the purpose. Note the wiki isn't for that purpose or I'd agree with you. Its for creating documentation (something we are still lacking in). I hate it for the purpose of discussion, preferring mail lists for that, and the talking points summed up (I hate searching through 6 years of archive to find out why a particular decision was made)... Note that the wiki is also not for the pretty stuff. Once the wiki generates a page worth formalizing, it should be dumped into XML (IMHO) for convenient transform. I find forums really inconvienient for discussion. Heck mozilla annoys me enough (long story why I'm back on it)... No spell checker. (which is why I misspell everything lately) -Andy -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forum Software for Jakarta?
Note the wiki isn't for that purpose or I'd agree with you. Its for creating documentation (something we are still lacking in). I hate it for the purpose of discussion, preferring mail lists for that, and the talking points summed up (I hate searching through 6 years of archive to I'm a big fan of http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ThreadMode, great for distilling discussion into document content since the refactoring is naturally iterative. find out why a particular decision was made)... Note that the wiki is also not for the pretty stuff. Once the wiki generates a page worth formalizing, it should be dumped into XML (IMHO) for convenient transform. Ugh, turning a succinct readable format like wiki markup into XML? What a shame. (insert plug for reStructuredText here) -- jt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
how do you work??
Hi I'm an undergraduate student of Computer Science and I'm interested in how a group of developers that are geographically separated works. You are exactly that kind of group. I wanna know what specific tools do you use, or what kind of tools do you use to use, to develop the software. Can you help me?? or where can I write to get help with this ?? Thanks!!! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how do you work??
on 2003/1/15 7:02 PM, Eduardo Andrés Alfonso Sierra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanna know what specific tools do you use, or what kind of tools do you use to use, to develop the software. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/getinvolved.html -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco http://studioz.tv/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
