If watchdog is dead, we should move it to the Graveyard.
Noel, you are the incubator guy, any ideas about starting this process -
what is involved, any previous threads on the subject.
Tim
-Original Message-
From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 29,
Hi,
Well, Watchdog might be dead as far as development, but we still use it
to test tomcat as part of the tomcat release process. So let me discuss
with fellow tomcat developers, and please don't start a process for
burying watchdog yet. Thanks,
Yoav Shapira
Millennium Research Informatics
If watchdog is dead, we should move it to the Graveyard.
Noel, you are the incubator guy, any ideas about starting this process
- what is involved, any previous threads on the subject.
First of all, I'm curious to know what you think incubation has to do with
dormant projects.
Secondly, I'm
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
If watchdog is dead, we should move it to the Graveyard.
Noel, you are the incubator guy, any ideas about starting this process
- what is involved, any previous threads on the subject.
First of all, I'm curious to know what you think incubation
First of all, I'm curious to know what you think incubation has to do
with
dormant projects.
It's the opposite.
Secondly, I'm not one who favors closing an open source project. Ever.
I
didn't really agree with closing java.apache.org. Although I do agree
with
closing that domain, in
Hi,
I agree with one Noel, Henri, and Danny have said.
For interest's sake, let me explain what's been happening with Watchdog,
as I think it's a useful example for other graveyard or end-of-life
scenarios.
We use Watchdog as part of the tomcat release process. When Ant 1.6 was
released and
Henri Yandell wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Secondly, I'm not one who favors closing an open source project.
Ever.
Only place I favour closing projects is when they are in the incubator and
'fail', or in commons-sandbox.
Depends upon what happens in the Incubator. If it does actually fail,
Yoav Shapira wrote:
For interest's sake, let me explain what's been happening with Watchdog,
as I think it's a useful example for other graveyard or end-of-life
scenarios.
We use Watchdog as part of the tomcat release process.
A tiny change to the Watchdog build.xml would fix [a problem],
On Jun 4, 2004, at 1:14 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Yoav Shapira wrote:
For interest's sake, let me explain what's been happening with
Watchdog,
as I think it's a useful example for other graveyard or
end-of-life
scenarios.
We use Watchdog as part of the tomcat release process.
A tiny change to
we do need to have someone somewhere answerable to the board and with
oversight over any project which has public resources, whether it is
active, maintenance only or unsupported end-of-life.
Yes. But I don't think that we need a separate TLP for it. I would leave
the project in the
Hi,
OK, then let me propose this:
- We give Danny Angus and myself karma for Watchdog. There are no
active committers to nominate us.
- Either one of us will place a notice of dormancy (text TBD) on the
front page for Watchdog
- I will fix the build script so that Tomcat builds can be automated
On Jun 4, 2004, at 1:31 PM, Shapira, Yoav wrote:
Hi,
OK, then let me propose this:
- We give Danny Angus and myself karma for Watchdog. There are no
active committers to nominate us.
+1
- Either one of us will place a notice of dormancy (text TBD) on the
front page for Watchdog
+1
- I will fix
Hi,
We still need to take care of the mailing lists. I see two options:
- We revive the watchdog-dev/watchdog-user mailing lists and redirect
them somewhere like [EMAIL PROTECTED], or
- We just leave them dead, take off the subscription links on the
Watchdog site, and indicate in our
On Jun 4, 2004, at 1:45 PM, Shapira, Yoav wrote:
Hi,
We still need to take care of the mailing lists. I see two options:
- We revive the watchdog-dev/watchdog-user mailing lists and redirect
them somewhere like [EMAIL PROTECTED], or
- We just leave them dead, take off the subscription links on
Hi,
There's nothing to monitor: the lists are dead. Emails to
watchdog-dev-subscribe/unsubscribe come back with an address not
found
type error. And yet those are the addresses linked on the watchdog
site. So we actually have broken and misleading information there ;)
(!)
So why don't
On Jun 4, 2004, at 1:54 PM, Shapira, Yoav wrote:
Hi,
There's nothing to monitor: the lists are dead. Emails to
watchdog-dev-subscribe/unsubscribe come back with an address not
found
type error. And yet those are the addresses linked on the watchdog
site. So we actually have broken and
We still need to take care of the mailing lists. I see two options:
- We revive the watchdog-dev/watchdog-user mailing lists and redirect
them somewhere like [EMAIL PROTECTED], or
- We just leave them dead, take off the subscription links on the
Watchdog site, and indicate in our notice of
-Original Message-
From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 11:13 AM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: RE: [Watchdog] Dead?
Henri Yandell wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Secondly, I'm not one who favors closing an open source project.
-Original Message-
From: Geir Magnusson Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Having Tomcat community take care of watchdog would be great,
and it doesn't imply any major work like moving the code or
site. Just paying attention to the lists and putting a
notice on the Watchdog site
Tim O'Brien wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
If watchdog is dead, we should move it to the Graveyard.
Noel, you are the incubator guy, any ideas about starting
this process
First of all, I'm curious to know what you think incubation
has to do with dormant projects.
You've been
-Original Message-
From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:55 PM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: RE: [Watchdog] Dead?
Tim O'Brien wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
If watchdog is dead, we should move it to the Graveyard.
Noel, you
On Fri, 2004-06-04 at 15:14, Tim O'Brien wrote:
It is the invite people to be active part that interests me. I'm not
saying I want an activity meter the likes of Sourceforge, but it is polite
to our users to give people a sense of activity.
That's one of the nice things about a GForge-ish
-Original Message-
From: Tom Copeland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 2:19 PM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: RE: [Watchdog] Dead?
On Fri, 2004-06-04 at 15:14, Tim O'Brien wrote:
It is the invite people to be active part that interests me. I'm
not
We agree that burying a project is less than helpful.
It is the invite people to be active part that interests me. I'm not
saying I want an activity meter the likes of Sourceforge, but it is
polite to our users to give people a sense of activity.
Well, if we focus on the word COMMUNITY
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
Yoav Shapira wrote:
OK, then let me propose this:
- We give Danny Angus and myself karma for Watchdog. There are no
active committers to nominate us.
+1
+1 Let's just go ahead and do this. :-)
+1.
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