Re: Jakarta download pages Was: download pages in j.a.o.

2004-12-28 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:27:51 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, circling the basement is not conducive to coherence, or correct spelling I suspect, so I'm going to ramble a bit here in vague justification. Jakarta is different to other TLP's in that it's an umbrella. One

Re: Jakarta download pages Was: download pages in j.a.o.

2004-12-28 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Oliver Zeigermann wrote: On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:27:51 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Demo Builds, Milestone Builds: Do we even use these terms regularly? We have 1 demo build, and I thought we did RC's rather than Milestones. I'm I thought a milestone

License issue

2004-12-28 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Hi, I have a question containing different licenses. As far as I understand, we are not allowed to ship JARs (for dependency) that are under LGPL. What would be with BSD License? Thanks, Matthias - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

RE: License issue

2004-12-28 Thread J Aaron Farr
-Original Message- From: Matthias Wessendorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I have a question containing different licenses. As far as I understand, we are not allowed to ship JARs (for dependency) that are under LGPL. What would be with BSD License? BSD dependencies are fine.

Re: Jakarta download pages Was: download pages in j.a.o.

2004-12-28 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 08:19:09 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Oliver Zeigermann wrote: On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:27:51 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Demo Builds, Milestone Builds: Do we even use these terms regularly? We

Re: Cleaning up Site2

2004-12-28 Thread Martin Cooper
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:35:08 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The jakarta-site2 module is horrendously old, overpowered and creaky. There's support in there for using xml/xsl-html instead of anakia, and support for printable pages. I'm not sure the use of Anakia is even

Re: Jakarta download pages Was: download pages in j.a.o.

2004-12-28 Thread Martin Cooper
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:27:51 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spent a fair while walking circles in the basement (carrying the unhappy baby) and thinking on the download pages. My first thoughts were on what they exist for. From an info-arch point of view, they are a

Re: Jakarta download pages Was: download pages in j.a.o.

2004-12-28 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Martin Cooper wrote: I think, if we had a standard template for download pages, each subproject could have its own download page, something like we have for Struts: http://struts.apache.org/download.cgi Agreed, much nicer than the closer.cgi. I'd prefer it if subprojects

Re: Cleaning up Site2

2004-12-28 Thread Henri Yandell
I'll go ahead and start making changes/cleanup in a steady manner now that I've had a sanity check from Martin. While meritocracy is great, I'm very aware that meritocracy on Jakarta things could like despotism for me. Hen -

Re: Dormancy worries

2004-12-28 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
I'm not a fan of the mothballing concept as I understand its proposed implementation, but I agree that some process for officially relegating a project to maintenance mode may be necessary. In some sense, projects like oro and regexp have been victims of their own success. Both moved into

Re: Dormancy worries

2004-12-28 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Daniel F. Savarese wrote: suggested enhancements to the respective code bases. Given the widespread use of the software and its inclusion in commercial products like WebLogic and WebSphere, I think Jakarta's shepherding of these projects has done a lot of good. Yep,

Re: Jakarta download pages Was: download pages in j.a.o.

2004-12-28 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Martin Cooper wrote: On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:27:51 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Demo Builds, Milestone Builds: Do we even use these terms regularly? We have 1 demo build, and I thought we did RC's rather than Milestones. I'm not sure we even need to

Re: Dormancy worries

2004-12-28 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Henri Yandell wrote: On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Daniel F. Savarese wrote: snip/ Then we can solicit volunteers from the PMC to be committers for each project to ensure that each has at least three. Volunteering means you agree to review and adddress patches and bug reports, vote on releases, etc., but

Re: Dormancy worries

2004-12-28 Thread Mark Thomas
Henri Yandell wrote: JServ, Watchdog and Alexandria are both dormant as far as I know. The mailing list for Alexandria needs to be closed down, so I'll take care of making that happen. Depends how you define dormant. There is _very_ occasional use of Watchdog when we do a Tomcat 4 release. This

Re: Dormancy worries

2004-12-28 Thread Mark Thomas
Henri Yandell wrote: JServ, Watchdog and Alexandria are both dormant as far as I know. The mailing list for Alexandria needs to be closed down, so I'll take care of making that happen. Depends how you define dormant. There is _very_ occasional use of Watchdog when we do a Tomcat 4 release. This

Re: Jakarta download pages Was: download pages in j.a.o.

2004-12-28 Thread Martin Cooper
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:23:37 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Martin Cooper wrote: On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:27:51 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Demo Builds, Milestone Builds: Do we even use these terms regularly? We

Re: Jakarta download pages Was: download pages in j.a.o.

2004-12-28 Thread Phil Steitz
Henri Yandell wrote: On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Martin Cooper wrote: I think, if we had a standard template for download pages, each subproject could have its own download page, something like we have for Struts: http://struts.apache.org/download.cgi Agreed, much nicer than the closer.cgi. I'd prefer

Re: Cleaning up Site2

2004-12-28 Thread Glen Stampoultzis
Henri Yandell wrote: I'll go ahead and start making changes/cleanup in a steady manner now that I've had a sanity check from Martin. While meritocracy is great, I'm very aware that meritocracy on Jakarta things could like despotism for me. Hen +1 on Henri being a temporary despot. :-)

Mess in jakarta.apache.org/

2004-12-28 Thread Henri Yandell
Worringly, this is just the flotsam lying around at the top level :) What on this list cannot be rm -r'd? There's usually one or two important ones in the pile of junk, so I'll be relatively careful. BUGS/ Copy of a CVS/. Odd. bcel.org/ Old copy of BCEL site. broken/ A maven repo by the

Re: Jakarta download pages Was: download pages in j.a.o.

2004-12-28 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Phil Steitz wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Martin Cooper wrote: I think, if we had a standard template for download pages, each subproject could have its own download page, something like we have for Struts: http://struts.apache.org/download.cgi Agreed,