Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Duncan Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tuesday, July 24, 2001, at 04:30 PM, GOMEZ Henri wrote: > > > And after all sourceforge is now a really good area > > to host OpenSource projects (java and others). > > This isn't Sourceforge. I'm actually *not* in favor of bringing a database under > the Jakarta umbrella. It's out of scope in my opinion -- > and scope creep is a problem that we've been facing for a long time. I might agree with that. But IMO we have a lot of things that are out of scope? Ant? James? Log4J? Regexp? Come on? Don't get me wrong.. I LOVE those projects but I think that a DB is more in-scope than they are :) Kevin - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Cell: 408-910-6145 URL: http://relativity.yi.org ICQ: 73488596 For great justice. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Get my public key at: http://relativity.yi.org/pgpkey.txt iD8DBQE7YJ6xAwM6xb2dfE0RAkBaAJ9Lxb8+6H8Hs3rhHm7dj5CAJANsAACggXjo /npRoQvRJ9OXAZ6ZtGKZXGU= =d6RR -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)
on 7/25/01 1:38 PM, "Pier P. Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > burtonator at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> But they haven't approached us... And I believe the first step should be >>> done by them.. >> >> >> Not according to them. They said that they approached Jakarta about 1 - 1.5 >> years ago. >> >> Of course that was a LONG time ago :) > > :) Then it was when I was doing stuff over in XML land... Dunno about > that... Jon? :) > > Pier I remember a brief approach, but like Kevin said...that was a LONG time ago...if they want to come now, then have them join this list and write a proposal. Pier is still right...unless a PMC member takes the initiative (like I did with Lucene...and that will still happen someday), then it really isn't our job. -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)
James Duncan Davidson wrote: > This isn't Sourceforge. I'm actually *not* in favor of bringing a > database under the Jakarta umbrella. It's out of scope in my opinion -- > and scope creep is a problem that we've been facing for a long time. It's tempting to say, well a lot of our in-scope projects, like JetSpeed and Turbine and Struts, would like to ship examples that use a DBMS, and it would be convenient to ship them with a Jakarta DBMS. Just as it is convenient to ship our products with a tool like Ant. But, that's "Not Invented Here" syndrome talking. We invite others to be dependent on our OSS products, that they may not control, and we should be prepared to do the same. We ship products that use HSQL now, and there's no reason why we can't continue to do that, whether it's ASF or not. If a Java DBMS project came along, with a team that was already imbued with the Apache spirit, then maybe we should talk about it. But, like Pier said, going out and finding a DBMS for the sake of having a DBMS is borg. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel 716 737-3463. -- http://www.husted.com/about/struts/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)
On Tuesday, July 24, 2001, at 04:30 PM, GOMEZ Henri wrote: > And after all sourceforge is now a really good area > to host OpenSource projects (java and others). This isn't Sourceforge. I'm actually *not* in favor of bringing a database under the Jakarta umbrella. It's out of scope in my opinion -- and scope creep is a problem that we've been facing for a long time. It may be something that the wider ASF wants to consider. And that's something for [EMAIL PROTECTED] But even then, I'd still not be in favor of it. Apache has got enough on its plate for a while. Part of my reasoning comes from watching people treat the fact that a project is at Apache as an endorsement. Others doing projects want to get affiliated with Apache for that reason -- and sometimes that reason alone. Apache should do things that Apache wants to do James Duncan Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] !try; do(); - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
