Re: Nominations, +1s, ...

2002-02-14 Thread Santiago Gala

Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:


On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Santiago Gala wrote:

I'm ready to give +1 to people nominated which are missing them, but I
could not find any posting telling if +1 are required, or are just to be
considered a form of moral support.


Could anybody clarify?


Personally: I do not care much for seconding - just that the person
accepts - simple voting is the true test in my personal opinion. And in a
crowd as vocal as this I trust that issues are raised in time to make sure
that seconding is non essential filtering mechanism.

But that is a personal opinion - not the nessesarily shared by the voting
volunteers opinion of that of the board or pmc.

So for next time 2003 - you have some options.

1- No seconding needed - just acceptance.

I would support 1. My concern was because I had seen people with no +1, 
and I wanted every nominee having the opportunity to get voted. I felt 
like I was spoiling my +1 by not using them. :)

I don't think veto is right. Vetoes should be handled in the ballot. I 
mean, I can argue someone is not the right person, but this should not 
automatically discard them. The nomination mechanism is already giving a 
filter on who will be proposed. The ability to veto could become a 
problem if/when there are fighting fractions in the nominating group.


2- One seconding needed - and acceptance counts
   as such too.
3- More than one needed.
4- None needed - except to override a veto..
5. 


Dw.


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[PATCH] Binary downloads page doesn't list latest BCEL release

2002-02-14 Thread Christopher Elkins

Hi, all.

SSIA. See diff below.

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Christopher Elkins


Index: xdocs/site/binindex.xml
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RCS file: /home/cvspublic/jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/binindex.xml,v
retrieving revision 1.126
diff -u -u -r1.126 binindex.xml
--- xdocs/site/binindex.xml 14 Feb 2002 11:30:49 -  1.126
+++ xdocs/site/binindex.xml 14 Feb 2002 16:15:46 -
@@ -74,6 +74,7 @@
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href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-avalon/release/framework/latest/;Avalon
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href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-avalon/release/logkit/latest/;Avalon 
LogKit 1.0.1/a/li
+lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-bcel/release/v5.0/;BCEL 
+5.0/a/li
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1.2/a/li
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1.4.1/a/li
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href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-james/release/v2.0a2/binary/;James 
2.0a2/a/li
@@ -97,7 +98,6 @@
 
 ul
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href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-avalon/release/phoenix/latest/;Avalon
 Phoenix 4.0 Alpha 3/a/li
-lia href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-bcel/release/v5.0rc1/;BCEL 
5.0 Release Candidate 1/a/li
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href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-lucene/release/v1.2-rc3/;Lucene 1.2 
Release Candidate 3/a/li
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href=http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat/release/v3.3.1-b1/bin/;Tomcat 
3.3.1 Beta 1/a/li
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O'Reilly article about the JSPA

2002-02-14 Thread Jon Scott Stevens

With a link back to our position paper...

http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2002/02/13/osjava.html

It is so sad that Sun is slowly killing support for Java. What a way to
shoot yourself in the foot.

-jon


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Re: O'Reilly article about the JSPA

2002-02-14 Thread Matt Egyhazy

sun is obstinate, and it may hurt them bad.

matt
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 With a link back to our position paper...
 
 http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2002/02/13/osjava.html
 
 It is so sad that Sun is slowly killing support for Java. What a way to
 shoot yourself in the foot.
 
 -jon
 
 
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