RE: JakartaOne

2002-03-11 Thread GOMEZ Henri

Any luck that a JakartaOne will ever be in Europe,
even better in Paris ?

As many Europeans commiters, I'd to go to SF put
time and funds are allways missing ;)

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Before we do the call for papers, does anyone really care?  I 
would rather
do nothing than do something lame.

Serious show of hands here - if you will be in the area, and 
are interested
in attending, say so.  Feel free to send to me directly so we 
don't bomb the
list with that kind of noise.  I will post a summary.


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RE: JakartaOne

2002-03-11 Thread Danny Angus

We could organise our own.. but where? I'm sure I could cope with a w/e in
Paris in the Springtime :-)

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 Any luck that a JakartaOne will ever be in Europe,
 even better in Paris ?


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RE: JakartaOne

2002-03-11 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

On Mon, 2002-03-11 at 05:19, GOMEZ Henri wrote:
 Any luck that a JakartaOne will ever be in Europe,
 even better in Paris ?
 

Heck from the East Coast US right now its cheaper to fly/stay in Europe
than the west coast (go figure).  For kicks I investigated hotel prices
in the area WHOA!  For about 2-$300 right now I can get to Munich
(highly suggest for a get together).  Hotels in Munich in the off season
drop to like 110 marks ($50) a night to stay in the thick of things
(with bathroom and shower), Europe is a wonderful place to spend dollars
(especially when the currency sinks!).  The only nasty thing is that
there 7-10 hour flight!  Of course if one inebriates himself
sufficiently until one is numb the whole flight then one can just sleep
through the whole unpleasant thing.

Anyhow, I think they should hold the ApacheCon in New York this year. 
Just my opinion.  I'd go to a Jakarta One but it'd have needed to been
planned out farther ahead for me to judge whether it was worth flying
out for or not.  I'm not really that interested in going to JavaOne for
a few grand.  (not on my dime at least)

-Andy

 As many Europeans commiters, I'd to go to SF put
 time and funds are allways missing ;)
 
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 From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 5:19 AM
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 Subject: JakartaOne
 
 
 
 Before we do the call for papers, does anyone really care?  I 
 would rather
 do nothing than do something lame.
 
 Serious show of hands here - if you will be in the area, and 
 are interested
 in attending, say so.  Feel free to send to me directly so we 
 don't bomb the
 list with that kind of noise.  I will post a summary.
 
 
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Re: JakartaOne

2002-03-11 Thread Conor MacNeill

Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
 

 Heck from the East Coast US right now its cheaper to fly/stay in Europe
 than the west coast (go figure).  For kicks I investigated hotel prices
 in the area WHOA!  For about 2-$300 right now I can get to Munich
 (highly suggest for a get together).  Hotels in Munich in the off season
 drop to like 110 marks ($50) a night to stay in the thick of things
 (with bathroom and shower), Europe is a wonderful place to spend dollars
 (especially when the currency sinks!).  The only nasty thing is that
 there 7-10 hour flight!  


That's short-haul from my part of the world :-)

Conor



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RE: [VOTE] ASL vs. GPL page: is this okay?

2002-03-11 Thread Sale, Doug

except that licence, is only used in Middle English

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 Are you referring to the noun or the verb?
 
 http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=licence*1+0
 
 In short, licence is the noun, license is the verb.
 
 Geez, these Americans think they speak English... ;-) ;-)
 
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  http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=license
 
  http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=licence
 
 
  alex wrote:
  
   At 09:16 07/03/02, Danny Angus wrote:
 It is spelled licence.  ;-)
  
   Wow - we managed to correct Jon on a technical point!   
 (Just kidding
 Jon -
   no offence)
  
   licenSe is what Apache Software Foundation does - ie the act of
 licensing.
   licenCe is the document or permit given - eg the file itself.
  
   Since this is all about the document then licenCe is the correct
 spelling
   (ignoring Case that is).
  
   Personally I feel the existing web page which Jon 
 reminded us of was
 quite
   good and if there is anything important missing then that 
 is the page
 which
   should be improved.
  
   Alex
  
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JakartaOne : Plan

2002-03-11 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.

Enough people have expressed interest in Jakarta One that I believe we
should go forward, at least as a social gathering so we can see what we all
look like.

Due to the short amount of time available for preparation, as the de-facto
chair of the de-facto committee (James, Jon, although he doesn't know it,
and myself...) I would like to propose that we table the idea of a separate
technical session and keep it social.

However, if we have enough interest, we can do them in conjunction with the
social program.  That might make in less formal, and people will be less
inhibited.  For example, I know I can get a well-known Java programmer to
come and talk about why he likes .NET so much.  If we can convince Sam Ruby
to show up, as chair of the .NET CLR ECMA committee (did I get that right,
Sam?), we can turn it into a discussion rather than a presentation.


JakartaOne 2002
===

When

Tuesday, March 26, 2002 time TBA : suggest evening, with technical talks
first, then music afterwards - refreshments served throughout

Where
-
StudioZ.tv (http://www.studioz.tv/) (Jon Scott Steven's club/event space)

What

Gathering of the Open Source community  - meet the faces with possible
informal technical talks.  Refreshments certainly available.

RSVP

While not required for entrance, the courtesy of an RSVP to help us gauge
attendance will be appreciated.  To do so, send a message to geirm at
optonline dot net with the subject line

  [RSVP] JakartaOne

And that will be fine.


Call for Papers
---
Anyone wishing to give a short talk (10-15 mins) on something they think is
interesting and relevant is invited to submit a short proposal to geirm at
optonline dot net, which will be reviewed by the ad-hoc committee (Geir and
James).If there are enough willing participants, we will get facilities
set up (white screen and projector...)

One idea is to invite the Jboss people over - they are having 'JBossOne' at
the same time, but during the day, so maybe we could get a few to come and
talk at JakartaOne as well.

What We Need

I am on the east coast of the US, and will be in the UK the week before
JakartaOne, so need some local help.  Since we are minimizing the scope, and
StudioZ.tv will be managing the refreshments, it seems that the biggest need
will be wrt publicity.   I have no clue how to do this, but here are things
that spring to mind.  I assume that Jon with his event organization
experience will correct and add to the list.

 o Can we get volunteers to distribute flyers at the Tuesday morning
keynote, or in the lunch areas during the day?  We could do that both Monday
and Tuesday to get some awareness

 o We will need some financial support to pay for the paper and copying
cost.  Maybe 1/4 size 8.5x11 handbills can be cheap to produce at kinko's?
If someone could figure out how much it would cost, I will be happy to pay
for some, and we can take a collection or approach the ASF.

 o Once we iron out the specifics (like what times are appropos) I'll be
happy to post the finaly announcement anywhere and everywhere.  If we can
get it on Slashdot... :)

Anything else?




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Re: JakartaOne : Plan

2002-03-11 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.

Before anyone says anything, yes, I feel like a moron for spelling out geirm
at optonline dot net given that the From: is that and it's in my sig.

I have no idea what I was thinking.

On 3/11/02 12:04 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Enough people have expressed interest in Jakarta One that I believe we
 should go forward, at least as a social gathering so we can see what we all
 look like.
 
[SNIP]

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Re: JakartaOne : Plan

2002-03-11 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.

Additional idea just sent to me :

Anyone who is with a vendor that will be on the show floor, would you be
willing to keep flyers at your booth Monday and Tuesday?  Let me know so we
can get a count if we are going to produce, or if you are willing, we can
have the copy ready early so you can make your own pile with your own
equipment and resources :)

geir


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Re: JakartaOne : Plan

2002-03-11 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 o We will need some financial support to pay for the paper and copying
 cost.  Maybe 1/4 size 8.5x11 handbills can be cheap to produce at kinko's?
 If someone could figure out how much it would cost, I will be happy to pay
 for some, and we can take a collection or approach the ASF.

We can ask the foundation to sponsor this stuff... Shouldn't be much $$$ and
IMO it would be a good cause...

Pier


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