Re: Trademarks, copyright etc

"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone have pointers as to how we can use the project names legally in > our work, e.g. we do consulting using Apache Ant, Apache Struts etc. Do > there need to be (tm)s there? Are the project names trademarked, > copyrighted etc? AFAIK, the

Re: Trademarks, copyright etc

Since Trademarking takes money (I know we're doing that right now), I doubt it. However the work itself is copyrighted by the jakarta project and the developer of the work. So, bottom line is no there shouldn't be a tm next to any of those AFAIK. -warner - Original Message - From: <[EMAI

Trademarks, copyright etc

Does anyone have pointers as to how we can use the project names legally in our work, e.g. we do consulting using Apache Ant, Apache Struts etc. Do there need to be (tm)s there? Are the project names trademarked, copyrighted etc? -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Work: http://www.multitas

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

Yes, just expensive. -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Work: http://www.multitask.com.au Developers: http://adslgateway.multitask.com.au/developers Endre Stølsvik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/30/02 02:12 AM Please respond to "Jakarta General List" To: Jakarta General List <[E

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

"Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/29/02 8:18 AM, "Conor MacNeill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Endre Stølsvik wrote: >> >>> >>> But why did Jakarta end up with that rather nonsense name? >>> >> >> Jakarta is the capital of Indonesia located on the island of Java. >> >

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

Endre Stølsvik wrote: >| Apache > The original Apache is called Apache HTTPD now, isn't it? But yes, >annoying. > > Actually, I think Apache is a wonderful name, because it is just a name, and doesn't mean anything (in this context) except the Apache project. Although the name does not deriv

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

on 4/29/02 8:18 AM, "Conor MacNeill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Endre Stølsvik wrote: > >> >> But why did Jakarta end up with that rather nonsense name? >> > > Jakarta is the capital of Indonesia located on the island of Java. > > One nonsense name deserves another :-) > > Conor It was b

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

Any possibilities should be investigated, but I think this is hopeless. Oracle can probably do that legally. IANAL, but for the last year I've seen at least 4 or 5 Oracle open anti-Microsoft adds ranging from Oulook/Exchange problems to attacks on SQL server. Wording was similar. I guess nobod

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

"Danny Angus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > did anyone else get this "sponsored link" on the google "jakarta" results > page? > > "Jakarta - Are your business web sites and J2EE applications Unbreakable? > www.oracle.com > FREE Oracle High Availability Middleware Strategy Guide!" > > > Looks li

RE: New Subproject proposal Config4J

Is the Oracle ad legal anyway? Isn't there a trademark on Jakarta? > -Mensaje original- > De: Endre Stølsvik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Enviado el: lunes 29 de abril de 2002 18:13 > Para: Jakarta General List > Asunto: Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J > > > On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Da

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Danny Angus wrote: | did anyone else get this "sponsored link" on the google "jakarta" results | page? | | "Jakarta - Are your business web sites and J2EE applications Unbreakable? | www.oracle.com | FREE Oracle High Availability Middleware Strategy Guide!"

RE: New Subproject proposal Config4J

did anyone else get this "sponsored link" on the google "jakarta" results page? "Jakarta - Are your business web sites and J2EE applications Unbreakable? www.oracle.com FREE Oracle High Availability Middleware Strategy Guide!" Looks like someone is trying to poach our "c

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

"Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not any more. As of today, Google returns > http://jakarta.apache.org/ > as the first hit for "Jakarta"... WHOHA! :) That's cool! :) Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

* Endre Stølsvik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | Well, whatever.. It's just that when you're somewhat new to the Java and | Apache/Jakarta communities, all these names are really weird. You always encounter new a wierd names when you enter new communities. Be it in the real world or the internet w

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

* Pier Fumagalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > Jakarta is a city on Java. The name makes perfect sense to me as Jakarta | > is a community developing software based on Java. | | It makes me laugh that so many people involved with this project don't even | know its origins, or better OUR origin

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote: | "Gunnar Rønning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > * Endre Stølsvik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > > | > > > Jakarta | > > Annoying.. | > | > Jakarta is a city on Java. The name makes perfect sense to me as Jakarta | > is a community developing software

RE: New Subproject proposal Config4J

Not any more. As of today, Google returns http://jakarta.apache.org/ as the first hit for "Jakarta"... That makes the capital of Indonesia "the city named after the Jakarta project", at least on internet terms... Alex. > -Mensaje original- > De: Gunnar Rønning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

On 29 Apr 2002, Gunnar Rønning wrote: | * Endre Stølsvik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | | | | Jakarta | | Annoying.. | | Jakarta is a city on Java. The name makes perfect sense to me as Jakarta | is a community developing software based on Java. Argh! Of course.. It should be obligatory to ha

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

"Gunnar Rønning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Endre Stølsvik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Jakarta > > Annoying.. > > Jakarta is a city on Java. The name makes perfect sense to me as Jakarta > is a community developing software based on Java. It makes me laugh that so many people invol

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

"Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Jakarta > > > Annoying.. > > We can rename it EDAJAON > > "Endre Doesn't Appreciate Jakarta As Our Name" > > Which should make you happy? > > No, not really. > > But why did Jakarta end up with that rather nonsense name? Because the very fir

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

At 4:53 PM +0200 4/29/02, Endre Stølsvik wrote: >But why did Jakarta end up with that rather nonsense name? Jakarta is an island in Indonesia, as is Java. I like the name myself. But then, I don't really agree with your initial concern. Joe -- -- * Joe Germuska{ [EMAIL PROTECTED] } "It's

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

* Endre Stølsvik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | | Jakarta | Annoying.. Jakarta is a city on Java. The name makes perfect sense to me as Jakarta is a community developing software based on Java. -- Gunnar Rønning - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Consultant, Polygnosis AS, http://www.polygnosis.com/

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Endre Stølsvik wrote: > | > | Jakarta > | > Annoying.. > | > | We can rename it EDAJAON > | > | "Endre Doesn't Appreciate Jakarta As Our Name" > | > | Which should make you happy? > > No, not really. > > But why did Jakarta end up with that rather nonsense name? > > JApach

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

Endre Stølsvik wrote: > > But why did Jakarta end up with that rather nonsense name? > Jakarta is the capital of Indonesia located on the island of Java. One nonsense name deserves another :-) Conor -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: | On 4/29/02 10:33 AM, "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > On 29 Apr 2002, Leo Simons wrote: | > | > | Apache | > The original Apache is called Apache HTTPD now, isn't it? But yes, | > annoying. | | Was for "A Patchy" server, right? | |

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

On 4/29/02 10:33 AM, "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 29 Apr 2002, Leo Simons wrote: > > | Apache > The original Apache is called Apache HTTPD now, isn't it? But yes, > annoying. Was for "A Patchy" server, right? Not annoying. > > | Jakarta > Annoying.. We can rename it EDAJ

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

On 29 Apr 2002, Leo Simons wrote: | BTW, I've found that "hardcore coding" is absolutely _the_ place for | what you call "stupid names": | | linux It's a _unix_ operation system, made by Linus. There is some convention of the use of a X for a Unix OS, or something like that. Whatever. | GNU

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

"Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/29/02 1:11 AM, "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> "Creative names".. Well.. This isn't a fashion school or something. It's >> hardcore coding. > > I disagree. > > Coding is an art form and the creators should be given the free

outlook virus targetting apache developers

all, one of the latest outlook worms has found its way to a user with lots of ties to Jakarta. I believe the apache mail servers are filtering out the malicious messages correctly, but if you use an address other than [EMAIL PROTECTED] you may be affected if you use windoze. I'm mentioning this

[ANNOUNCEMENT] JXPath 1.0 Beta 1 released

JXPath 1.0 Beta 1 has been released. JXPath is a component of Jakarta Commons. JXPath is an interpreter of the XPath expression language. JXPath applies XPath expressions to graphs of objects of all kinds: JavaBeans, Collections, arrays, Maps, Servlet contexts, DOM etc, including mixtures thereo

Re: Open Source JDO Implementation??

Subject: Re: Open Source JDO Implementation?? From: Vic Cekvenich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> === View do not offer any performance benefits in any DB. If there is interest in a non-JDO or O/R mapping dataccess layer, I could write up/or document my "low-tech" approache which uses JDBC/RowSets and Gen

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

on 4/29/02 1:11 AM, "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Creative names".. Well.. This isn't a fashion school or something. It's > hardcore coding. I disagree. Coding is an art form and the creators should be given the freedom and encouragement to title their pieces of art how they pl

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

We had a nice discussion 'bout this on avalon-dev a while back. You can read the thread at http://www.mail-archive.com/avalon-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg07495.html http://www.mail-archive.com/avalon-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg07589.html This was about nondescriptive naming of packages inside a sub

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: | One more thing, come up with a more creative name. :-) | | The whole FooBar4J thing is tired IMHO. May I say that the whole Jakarta naming scheme is really tired, imho. What does "Velocity" do? What does "Tomcat" do? What does any of these stupid n