Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?

2002-10-04 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote: > Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 02:44:19 +0100 > From: Pier Fumagalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we? > > On 4/10/02 14

RE: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?

2002-10-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
;-) On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 23:17, Martin Cooper wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 6:49 AM > > To: Jakarta General List > > Subject: Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we? > > > > > > I'd be more

RE: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?

2002-10-04 Thread Martin Cooper
> -Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 6:49 AM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we? > > > I'd be more interested to hear statistics on how many people are > California-based ve

Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?

2002-10-04 Thread dion
I was there for 6 months over 10 years ago, does that count? I don't think Sydney, Australia could be considered California-based though :) -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Work: http://www.multitask.com.au Developers: http://adslgateway.multitask.com.au/developers Pier Fumagalli <[EM

Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?

2002-10-04 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 4/10/02 14:49, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd be more interested to hear statistics on how many people are > California-based versus non-California based. (It would help me with my > research into Apache cultures and cliches ;-) for a paper I'm writing ) More than "being

RE: Bug handling survey - 80:20 rule

2002-10-04 Thread A. Gunes Koru
> > The loose association of people who make up the Open Source phenomenon couldn't >change the world, >there isn't enough organisation and there would never be agreement. >A commercial enterprise can pay people to change the world (or to try >to). >The best OS can do is to influence indivi

RE: Bug handling survey - 80:20 rule

2002-10-04 Thread Danny Angus
> Another point, I would like to express is that, in my previous > correspondence. I said that "commercial software competes" with open > source software. The subject of that sentence was "commercial software". I > did not imply otherwise. It is a true statement if you look at the > efforts in t

RE: Bug handling survey - 80:20 rule

2002-10-04 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Danny Angus wrote: > Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:45:48 +0100 > From: Danny Angus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Bug handling survey - 80:20 rule > > > > So, how come the > >

RE: Bug handling survey - 80:20 rule

2002-10-04 Thread A. Gunes Koru
Hi Danny and eveyone. Thanks for your response. Yes I would agree with many good points. But how many of you are happy with the software monopoly out there? I am not. "Some companies" are charging hundreds of dollars per license (for just copying sw), which is, may be the kitchen expenses of a fa

RE: Bug handling survey - 80:20 rule

2002-10-04 Thread Danny Angus
> So, how come the > commercial software can still compete with open source products. IMHO its because on the whole OpenSource contributors are not doing it to compete with commercial software, in fact many of us do this to provide an alternative to the daily pressures, restrictive working pr

Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?

2002-10-04 Thread AManns
Considering that there are a handful of committers compared to actual users, I suppose I meant that I think it would be more interesting to see where the distribution of users lies. (if that particular data is being collected through this mailing than those that do not read it would not be able

Re: karma for jakarta-site2

2002-10-04 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, mohammad nabil wrote: > Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 14:39:51 +0200 > From: mohammad nabil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: karma for jakarta-site2 > > > hi, > hope somehuman read any of my mails to jak

Bug handling survey - 80:20 rule

2002-10-04 Thread Gunes Koru
Hi all contributors of Jakarta, As you might have heard, I am conducting a bug handling survey on: http://www.seas.smu.edu/~gkoru/surveys/dhsurvey.html So far, we have received answers from the developers, testers, defects fixers, and project managers in KDE, GNOME, Apache, OpenOffice, Mozilla

Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?

2002-10-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
is that an indication of activity or the opposite ;-) On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 10:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I would be more interested in finding out about the users who are active > enough to read this list. > > > >

Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?

2002-10-04 Thread AManns
I would be more interested in finding out about the users who are active enough to read this list. "Andrew C.

Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?

2002-10-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I'd be more interested to hear statistics on how many people are California-based versus non-California based. (It would help me with my research into Apache cultures and cliches ;-) for a paper I'm writing ) On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 08:41, Jeff Turner wrote: > Carnegie Mellon did a survey of ~300

AutoResponder 2000: fuera de la oficina

2002-10-04 Thread Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro
Este mensaje fue autogenerado por AutoResponder 2000 Fuera de la Oficina Hola, estoy de vacaciones y... no sé por qué añadir más cosas si la mayoría de la peña en Jakarta no sabe ni papa de español -- si eres de los pocos afortunados, que sepas que esto es una broma. Pero visita http://

Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?

2002-10-04 Thread Jeff Turner
Carnegie Mellon did a survey of ~300 Apache developers (56 committers) a while ago, and posted interim results to respondents last month. With the permission of the researcher, here are some stats: On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 03:35:18PM +0100, Danny Angus wrote: > > Vincent Massol once wrote: > > >

Re: karma for jakarta-site2

2002-10-04 Thread mohammad nabil
hi, hope somehuman read any of my mails to jakarta community. i would like to help in any thing, but it seems that only mail machines read my email :s i hope to hear from any one alife at there :D -Mohammad Nabil >From: Jeff Dever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL P