RIA experiences

2004-02-04 Thread Henri Gomez
Hi to all,

I'm taking a serious look at Rich Internet Applications, and I'm 
investigating using FlashMX as client.

Did some of you have some experiences on this ?

- Are you using native ASObject via projects like openamf
  or just standard xmlrpc/soap to make client/servers comm ?
Advices are welcome :)

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Re: RIA experiences

2004-02-04 Thread Danny Angus




Hi Henri,
I'm taking a serious look at Rich Internet Applications, and I'm
investigating using FlashMX as client.

Did some of you have some experiences on this ?

Yep, I've developed two server apps for Flash clients using XMLRPC
(http://www.proboscis.org.uk/urbantapestries/index.html is one project),
both projects made use of a framework which I wrote (at autonomous
software) which included code generation for object/rdb data access classes
and XMLRPC handlers.

From my POV (delivering the server) it was extremely sucessful, however
overall Flash's complete inability to handle XML efficiently meant that
when we compared our average calls' timing on a java client (built purely
for the comparison) and the Flash client there was up to a 10 fold increase
in time taken for a call on flash over java. In fact at some points Flash
appeared to hang and eventually came up with a dialogue proclaiming
something like flash is taking a very long time, do you want to abandon
this or continue?

Introducing timings into the mix revealed that it was Flash parsing the xml
response which was killing performance.
The problem increased exponentially with the size of the response.
My conclusion is that you have to either keep the response xml small and
make many short requests, or abandon xml or Flash in favour of something
more efficient. The XML RPC guys have been talking about using gz
compression on the XML, which would have helped us with bandwidth, our
clients were on limited bandwidth mobile devices, perhaps this would also
tip the balance in favour of making many small requests, but it wouldn't
address the woefully slow and hungry XML parsing of flash.

Perhaps soneone at xml.Apache would liek to write an actionscript xml
parser .

d.




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Jakarta commons karma and passwd reset.

2004-02-04 Thread Kevin A. Burton
I've been trying to get my passwd reset for my [EMAIL PROTECTED] account 
for the last week now.  Rumor has it that I can just email 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] but that seems to be an alias for /dev/null

I forgot the passwd for that account and I've since lost my ssh keys...

Whatever verification you want to do for my account is fine... call my 
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I also need access to the commons sandbox...

Anyway... Squeaky wheel gets the grease...

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Re: RIA experiences

2004-02-04 Thread Henri Gomez
Danny Angus a écrit :



Hi Henri,

I'm taking a serious look at Rich Internet Applications, and I'm
investigating using FlashMX as client.


Did some of you have some experiences on this ?


Yep, I've developed two server apps for Flash clients using XMLRPC
(http://www.proboscis.org.uk/urbantapestries/index.html is one project),
both projects made use of a framework which I wrote (at autonomous
software) which included code generation for object/rdb data access classes
and XMLRPC handlers.
From my POV (delivering the server) it was extremely sucessful, however
overall Flash's complete inability to handle XML efficiently meant that
when we compared our average calls' timing on a java client (built purely
for the comparison) and the Flash client there was up to a 10 fold increase
in time taken for a call on flash over java. In fact at some points Flash
appeared to hang and eventually came up with a dialogue proclaiming
something like flash is taking a very long time, do you want to abandon
this or continue?
Introducing timings into the mix revealed that it was Flash parsing the xml
response which was killing performance.
The problem increased exponentially with the size of the response.
My conclusion is that you have to either keep the response xml small and
make many short requests, or abandon xml or Flash in favour of something
more efficient. The XML RPC guys have been talking about using gz
compression on the XML, which would have helped us with bandwidth, our
clients were on limited bandwidth mobile devices, perhaps this would also
tip the balance in favour of making many small requests, but it wouldn't
address the woefully slow and hungry XML parsing of flash.
Perhaps soneone at xml.Apache would liek to write an actionscript xml
parser .
XML parsing is reported very slow in Flash MX (Flash 6 at least).

Do you try astranslator http://carbonfive.sourceforge.net/astranslator ?

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Re: Jakarta commons karma and passwd reset.

2004-02-04 Thread Henri Yandell

I suspect the excuse is that root's been busy with all the email virus.

The [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail list is where you can get this solved,
they're meant to be handling root-like tasks. Sandbox access should be
pretty easy to get [just ask on commons-dev mailing list] once you have
your password sorted out again.

Hen

On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Kevin A. Burton wrote:

 I've been trying to get my passwd reset for my [EMAIL PROTECTED] account
 for the last week now.  Rumor has it that I can just email
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] but that seems to be an alias for /dev/null

 I forgot the passwd for that account and I've since lost my ssh keys...

 Whatever verification you want to do for my account is fine... call my
 cell if you want ;)  Need a DNA sample?  You got it!

 I also need access to the commons sandbox...

 Anyway... Squeaky wheel gets the grease...

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