Re: Jakarta embracing the JCP?

[dion]

Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 20/03/2004 08:52:35 AM:

[snip]
 We already effectively have Expert Groups, we call them the PMC. Project
 Leads, aka active-voice on the project/component. I'm not sure it hurts
 for us to have a project-lead on things, in fact I think it's something
 Apache should have. Defined responsibility.

I've seen this 'defined responsibility' drive people away from projects.

I've also seen projects with a strong leader wallow as their leader has 
gone off and started something new and more fun. Bugs lie unfixed and the 
software stagnates.

Having multiple people share the load is a far better model, IMHO.

 People view this as anti-community, but I think it's pro-community. Who 
is
 responsible to the community for Tomcat 3 at the moment? The community?
 That seems like we're kidding ourselves. The ASF-way merely means that
 it's easy to fill a project-lead gap, or to join in. Not that the
 project-leads don't exist.

[snip]
--
dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting

Re: Jakarta embracing the JCP?

[Tetsuya Kitahata]

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:14:13 +1100
dion wrote:

 I've seen this 'defined responsibility' drive people
 away from projects. (*1)

Agreed. Often *innovative* guys run away from such projects.
OSS guys do not want to take *responsibilites*, generally speaking.
Also, this often dampens the motivation of the not-defined guys.

 I've also seen projects with a strong leader wallow as their leader
 has gone off and started something new and more fun. (*2)

Agreed, too. Often *conservative* guys hate such projects - and
say - This project is very primitive.

--

Required would be *balance*, i guess.

In case (*1), warm-hearted enemies would be often able to
resuscitate (*1) projects.
NOTE: If not-warm-hearted, (*1) would lose in competition.
In case (*2), public appeal method would be required. In open
source world, anyone can take over. - just people do not know
what they can do (and they are shy enough) and where such projects exist.
- Mechanism would resolve. offer for public subscription *plus*
- allocation of appropriate rights

Again and again, just a balancing issue.
Also, community often loses balance. - Be careful.


-- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



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