Re: [RESULT][PMC VOTE] PMC Nominations

2003-02-21 Thread Jeffrey Dever


All I want to do is write code and manage HttpClient to a full 
release. Its all I have time for.  Already this PMC chaos is taking 
more time than I want to spend on it.

Cool - can you get rid of the logging dependence?  I just started 
using HttpClient because I gave up on the JDK HttpConnection in 
disgust, and it's not quite drop-in if it requires logging
Its open for discussion.  Bring it up on the commons-httpclient-dev list.

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Re: MS vs Open Source link

2003-02-21 Thread Jeffrey Dever
A good way to handle this is to take the Apache projects, name them 
something different, add a pretty UI and then sell them for lots of 
money to those same customers under a more restrictive and 
closed-source license.
I'm in contact with one company that already does this with HttpClient, 
which is of course completely fine by the license.

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Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Jeffrey Dever




I am not excited by the idea of only PMC members voting on releases 
to the exclusion of active committers.  I'm the release prime for 
Commons HttpClient where all committers vote on all issues all the 
time, including releases.  HttpClient is somewhat unusual in commons 
as it is rather a large project with a dedicated mailing list and a 
rich family where many, such as myself, are primarily focused on just 
one project, HttpClient.


The goal is to make all active committers PMC members.



Then what, exactly, is the difference between a committer and a PMC 
member?  

I thought the goal was to have the release primes be the PMC members. 
It is the Project Management Committee after all.




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Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Jeffrey Dever


If the implication is that release management =
project management, I don't agree.  Typically there
can only be one release manager, but it's takes lots
of people to keep a project going.  Certainly every
release manager should forward themselves as PMC
nominees, but the body of qualified candidates is much
larger.


Well said Morgan.  Point taken.


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Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Jeffrey Dever


It is not to the exclusion of active committers.

Http-client is part of jakarta-commons - and acording to the charter any
jakarta-commons committer ( which is close to all jakarta ) can vote.

As you probably know - only those who are really interested do that.

I agree that we're not yet ready to have PMC votes on releases - we need
to expand the PMC and include more people. Even when this will happen,
I think the committer votes should be counted as well.  
 

That is reassuring Costin.  To clarify HttpClient and voting, we 
absolutely *do* recognize all votes from all commons committers.  Votes 
are held on the the same list where the httpclient discussions take 
place, the commons-httpclient-dev list.


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Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Jeffrey Dever
Completely agree.  We should see what the new PMC roles/responsibilites 
are before accepting PMC membership.

robert burrell donkin wrote:

On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 11:42 PM, Stephen Colebourne wrote:


Yesterday I received the Jakarta Monthly Newsletter. Interesting as 
always,
until I got to the section on PMC nominations. There, I suddenly 
found my
name listed as elected to the Jakarta PMC. This came as a complete 
surprise
and shock to me.

When I followed the relevant link, I discovered that a discussion had 
taken
place on this list, but I was not subscribed to general@jakarta 
(unless I'
m
mistaken, I'm not required to subscribe). At no point was a personal 
email
sent to myself (or I guess the others nominated). I feel as though I 
have
been pressganged.


actively inviting new PMC members to join is something that i think 
should be done.

in the same way that a developer receives a letter from apache (after 
a successful vote) inviting them to become a committer, i'd say that 
committers who have been voted onto the PMC should receive a letter 
explaining the role of a PMC member and asking them if they'd be 
willing to join.

- robert


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NOMINATE HttpClient committers

2003-02-19 Thread Jeffrey Dever
I would like to nominate the following committers from the Commons 
HttpClient project to the PMC.  They are all very active and have been 
for many months.  There are other committers that could be nominated, 
but the following are those whose primary association to Jakarta is 
through HttpClient:

Jeff Dever [EMAIL PROTECTED] (me)
Ortwin Glück [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oleg Kalnichevski [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jeff Dever
HttpClient release prime



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Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003

2003-02-02 Thread Jeffrey Dever
Commons HttpClient

Release 2.0 Alpha 2!
After many months and a great resurgence of developers, the new build of 
/HttpClient/ is finally here. The new group of developers has done 
extensive refactoring to move the project along the new vision. The code 
base has reached a significant level of maturity and we expect that 
another released build (possibly a beta) will be ready near the end of 
February

Also check out the new /HttpClient/ logo on the website created by Jeff 
Dever with the Gimp!  http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/httpclient/



Rob Oxspring wrote:

Jakarta Newsletter
==

Issue: 7
Date: January 2003
Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200301.html

TODO

Contents 


General
Lucene



General
===
 Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project 
Editor: Rob Oxspring

Robert Simmons kicked of a debate over the use of forum software to make
it easier for users to get involved with jakarta subprojects [1,2]. The
Jakarta developers seemed united in preferring mailing lists and pointed
out archives [3] and services such as gmane [4] for more casual use of
the lists.

The Pluto subproject was proposed as a reference implementation of the
Portlet API and was heavily discussed [5]. Relating to the portals theme,
Charon was propsed ro implement the Web Services for Remote
specification, although this recieved only a little discussion [6,7].

Dani Estermann asked for some advice on choosing a logging stratergy for
future code. Some advocated using the JDK logging if Java 1.4 was
guarenteed, others recommended using Log4j whatever the situation. It was
also suggested that the use of a facade such as commons-logging should be
limitted to situations where chioce is needed. Browse the archive for
further detail [8].

Is it time for a new look Jakarta? Maybe a unified Apache site look and
feel? Christoph Wilhelms suggested the use of his FakeForrest skin to
give Jakarta a facelift [9]. This offers a Forrest[10] look a like and
could act as a stepping stone towards the eventual use of forrest for the
websites.

[1] -
http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=305266
[2] -
http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=309508
[3] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/
[4] - http://www.gmane.org/
[5] -
http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=308677
[6] -
http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=308715
[7] -
http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=308716
[8] -
http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=314971
[9] -
http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=315699
[10] - http://xml.apache.org/forrest/



Lucene 
==
 A high-performance, full-featured text search engine 
Editor: Otis Gospodnetic

This month's notes come straight from Lucene's CHANGES.txt file. In
addition to that I'll only mention that the Lucene team is preparing for
packaging the first release candidate for the 1.3 release.

a. Queries are no longer modified during a search. This makes it
possible, e.g., to reuse the same query instance with multiple indexes
from multiple threads.

b. Term-expanding queries (e.g. PrefixQuery, WildcardQuery, etc.) now
work correctly with MultiSearcher, fixing bugs 12619 and 12667.

c. Boosting BooleanQuery's now works, and is supported by the query
parser (problem reported by Lee Mallabone). Thus a query like (+foo
+bar)^2 +baz is now supported and equivalent to (+foo^2 +bar^2) +baz.

d. New method: Query.rewrite(IndexReader). This permits a query to
re-write itself as an alternate, more primitive query. Most of the
term-expanding query classes (PrefixQuery, WildcardQuery, etc.) are now
implemented using this method.

e. New method: Searchable.explain(Query q, int doc). This returns an
Explanation instance that describes how a particular document is scored
against a query. An explanation can be displayed as either plain text,
with the toString() method, or as HTML, with the toHtml() method. Note
that computing an explanation is as expensive as executing the query over
the entire index. This is intended to be used in developing Similarity
implementations, and, for good performance, should not be displayed with
every hit.

f. Scorer and Weight are public, not package protected. It now possible
for someone to write a Scorer implementation that is not in the
org.apache.lucene.search package. This is still fairly advanced
programming, and I don't expect anyone to do this anytime soon, but at
least now it is possible.

g. Added public accessors to the primitive query classes (TermQuery,
PhraseQuery and BooleanQuery), permitting access to their terms and
clauses.

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No reply from root

2003-01-24 Thread Jeffrey Dever
I am the release prime for the commons-httpclient component.  I have 
made several attempts to have a user added as a committer, but there is 
no response from multiple requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

Can someone please:
1) determine if someone is actually reading the mail sent to root.
2) create a committer account for this very deserving contributor.

New committer: Oleg Kalnichevski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Project: Jakarta Commons HttpClient
Userid: oleg
Voting results:
+1 Jeff Dever [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+1 Dion Gillard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+1 Ortwin Gluck [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,
-jsd


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Re: Short Apache licence for source files

2002-12-03 Thread Jeffrey Dever
Interesting.  All the HttpClient files have the full form.  It would be 
nice to simply refrence the actual license file, if this is acceptable.

Darrell DeBoer wrote:

G'day,

I know this has been discussed before, but has any progress been made on a 
short version of the Apache licence for source files? Most source files in 
James use the following:
/*
* Copyright (C) The Apache Software Foundation. All rights reserved.
*
* This software is published under the terms of the Apache Software License
* version 1.1, a copy of which has been included with this distribution in
* the LICENSE file.
*/

I don't know where it started, but if someone can someone tell me definitively 
that this is against ASF rules, I will move to rectify the situation.

 



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Re: [TEST] Please ignore...

2002-10-30 Thread Jeffrey Dever
You are safe Pier ... live long and prosper.

Pier Fumagalli wrote:


Either this message goes in the newsgroup or I'm going to kill myself...

   Pier


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