Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Duncan Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thursday, July 26, 2001, at 03:50 PM, burtonator wrote: I might agree with that. But IMO we have a lot of things that are out of scope? Ant? James? Log4J? Regexp? Come on? Don't get me wrong.. I LOVE those projects but I think that a DB is more in-scope than they are :) snip You're right. I think out of the current set of Jakarta projects there are many out of scope. I think that they should live somewhere else. I've argued unsuccessfully about this before -- and gave up. But just because we have warts doesn't mean we should add more. I think we are just on the classic slippery slope. It will probably get worse before there is uniform acceptance that it exists. Kevin - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Cell: 408-910-6145 URL: http://relativity.yi.org ICQ: 73488596 They have the guns, money, and press but we have the technology! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Get my public key at: http://relativity.yi.org/pgpkey.txt iD8DBQE7YocLAwM6xb2dfE0RAjC1AJ4vHoQFRys0UVL8MrNl2vylj5gnYwCfRxAt anAIdUY/2xPhzSgUnt8s+70= =8vm4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)
Kevin Burton wrote: I think we are just on the classic slippery slope. It will probably get worse before there is uniform acceptance that it exists. Or that it splits. One could easily imagine that a database and related projects merits its own PMC. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Project idea (Hypersonic)
If one of their team comes up and asks, we can consider it, but I don't feel it's our task to go out and convince them to join us... snip Yes. I understand this perspective. However I think it is important to note that sometimes cooperation is much better than competition. I totally agree and I'll be more than happy to see hsql in jakarta. Sometimes competition in similar (or same) projects became a sane emulation (Pier knows what I mean :) And after all sourceforge is now a really good area to host OpenSource projects (java and others). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)
GOMEZ Henri at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I totally agree and I'll be more than happy to see hsql in jakarta. But they haven't approached us... And I believe the first step should be done by them.. Sometimes competition in similar (or same) projects became a sane emulation (Pier knows what I mean :) We're not competing with HSQL... And after all sourceforge is now a really good area to host OpenSource projects (java and others). I don't see what you mean... Pier - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)
burtonator at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just an FYI. I have spent a lot of time recently working with the Hypersonic people. There are a number of issues here. It seems they talked to Apache in the past about moving Hypersonic under Jakarta but were turned down. Since then a lot has happened. [...] That said I hope other ASF developers are able to convince them to change their ways where I have failed. I am sure more voices will help make these issues more relevant. IMVHO, we shouldn't run after projects who, as you said, have a negative inclination towards the Foundation. We have already enough stuff in our bags to keep us busy forever, and although the project seems to be pretty cool, I don't see a reason why we should incorporate it within our family. If one of their team comes up and asks, we can consider it, but I don't feel it's our task to go out and convince them to join us... ?xml version=1.0 dorkism source=uber geek Apache != Borg :) /dorkism Pier - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
