Re: [VOTE] Switching development to C#

2002-04-02 Thread Santiago Gala

Marc Johnson wrote:

 From: Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Do you have anything against Fortran or Cobol?


 Cobol, yes. Fortran, no.


 There will be .Net implementations for those, you know? And we could
 leverage the power of all those legacy academic and enterprise
 programmers.


 Nh ... I heard someone (Sam?) say something about implementing 
 APL! (slogan: write once, read never)

If I can ask, I would like to have some LISP (prefearable Scheme) .NET also

You know:  (let ((write once) (eval forever)) #t)

(I know April's fool its over, but in any case we don't celebrate it in 
Spain until December 28)




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Re: [VOTE] Switching development to C#

2002-04-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

And I'd like to thank Sam Ruby for showing me the light.  

Any plans to port Maven to C#?

-Andy

Marc wrote:

 Having become convinced by Andy that C# and .NET are the wave of the 
 future, I'm proposing that we switch poi development to C#.

 To the Jakarta community at large: will this affect our status as a 
 Jakarta project? I mean, I can see where a lot of projects are 
 eventually going to follow this same path ...

 Marc






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RE: [VOTE] Switching development to C#

2002-04-01 Thread Scott Sanders

You guys have your laugh now.  It is only a matter of time before Apache
is hosting a C# subproject like Jakarta.

Scott (understanding the joke, but not laughing)

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 And I'd like to thank Sam Ruby for showing me the light.  
 
 Any plans to port Maven to C#?
 
 -Andy
 
 Marc wrote:
 
  Having become convinced by Andy that C# and .NET are the wave of the
  future, I'm proposing that we switch poi development to C#.
 
  To the Jakarta community at large: will this affect our status as a
  Jakarta project? I mean, I can see where a lot of projects are 
  eventually going to follow this same path ...
 
  Marc
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [VOTE] Switching development to C#

2002-04-01 Thread Marc Portier

Costin,

it's even better!
since it _is_ language independant we could have all developers leverage the
language they already know!

YES! you can use Java aswell, and everyone here knows the supported 1.4.x
JDK release, right?
The BASIC guys could even extend the Java classes and vice versa... and it
all works!

Heil .Net

-marc=
PS: I always wanted to post a message with leverage in it, I simply luuv the
word


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 On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Marc wrote:

  Having become convinced by Andy that C# and .NET are the wave of the
  future, I'm proposing that we switch poi development to C#.
 
  To the Jakarta community at large: will this affect our status as a
  Jakarta project? I mean, I can see where a lot of projects are
  eventually going to follow this same path ...

 I'm ok with using .NET, but I think you should use BASIC as language,
 not C#. .NET is language independent, and other jakarta projects
 already switched to BASIC.

 Costin


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Re: [VOTE] Switching development to C#

2002-04-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

What about VB.NET?  I hear its really good too!  

-andy

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On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Marc wrote:

Having become convinced by Andy that C# and .NET are the wave of the 
future, I'm proposing that we switch poi development to C#.

To the Jakarta community at large: will this affect our status as a 
Jakarta project? I mean, I can see where a lot of projects are 
eventually going to follow this same path ...


I'm ok with using .NET, but I think you should use BASIC as language, 
not C#. .NET is language independent, and other jakarta projects 
already switched to BASIC. 

Costin


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Re: [VOTE] Switching development to C#

2002-04-01 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi

From: Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Having become convinced by Andy that C# and .NET are the wave of the 
 future, I'm proposing that we switch poi development to C#.

We have another problem!!!


 Mountain View, CA -- Sun Microsystems today filed a trademark infringement
against the island of Java* over the use of Sun's Java* trademark.

Responding to criticism that the island has been called Java* for
centuries, Sun lawyer Frank Cheatham said Yeah, and in all that time they
never filed for a trademark. They deserve to lose the name.

Rather than pay the licensing fee, the island decided to change its name.
They originally voted to change it to Visu Albasic, but an angry telegram
from Redmond, Washington convinced them otherwise. The country finally
settled on a symbol for a name -- a neatly-colored coffee cup which still
evokes the idea of java. Since most newspapers and magazines will not be
able to print the name of the island, it will hereafter be referred to in
print as The Island Formerly Known As Java*.

The Island Formerly Known As Java* bills itself as a cross-landmass island,
but so far has only been implemented in production on the Malay
Archipelago. Africa is been rumored to have implemented it on Madagascar,
but it is still in alpha testing.

Lawyers from Sun would also like to locate the owners of the huge fiery
ball at the center of the solar system. They have some legal papers for
them...

*Java is a Trademark of Sun Microsystems, Inc. Anyone caught using the
trademark without permission will be beaten, flogged, sued, and forced to
use Microsoft products.


(Taken from an old Usenet post.) 

 To the Jakarta community at large: will this affect our status as a 
 Jakarta project? I mean, I can see where a lot of projects are 
 eventually going to follow this same path ...

Are they gonna make us change our Jakarta name?

Should we switch proactively to APatchE JackHeartA?

(I always wanted to use *proactively* in a mail ;)

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RE: [VOTE] Switching development to C#

2002-04-01 Thread Paulo Gaspar

Do you have anything against Fortran or Cobol?

There will be .Net implementations for those, you know? And we could
leverage the power of all those legacy academic and enterprise 
programmers.

(I bet there are a lot of Cobol guys getting a lot of free time on
their hands after the Y2K mess.)


Paulo

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 On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Marc wrote:
 
  Having become convinced by Andy that C# and .NET are the wave of the 
  future, I'm proposing that we switch poi development to C#.
  
  To the Jakarta community at large: will this affect our status as a 
  Jakarta project? I mean, I can see where a lot of projects are 
  eventually going to follow this same path ...
 
 I'm ok with using .NET, but I think you should use BASIC as language, 
 not C#. .NET is language independent, and other jakarta projects 
 already switched to BASIC. 
 
 Costin
 
 
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RE: [VOTE] Switching development to C#

2002-04-01 Thread Marc Johnson

From: Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Do you have anything against Fortran or Cobol?

Cobol, yes. Fortran, no.


There will be .Net implementations for those, you know? And we could
leverage the power of all those legacy academic and enterprise
programmers.

Nh ... I heard someone (Sam?) say something about implementing APL! 
(slogan: write once, read never)


(I bet there are a lot of Cobol guys getting a lot of free time on
their hands after the Y2K mess.)


Paulo

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  On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Marc wrote:
 
   Having become convinced by Andy that C# and .NET are the wave of the
   future, I'm proposing that we switch poi development to C#.
  
   To the Jakarta community at large: will this affect our status as a
   Jakarta project? I mean, I can see where a lot of projects are
   eventually going to follow this same path ...
 
  I'm ok with using .NET, but I think you should use BASIC as language,
  not C#. .NET is language independent, and other jakarta projects
  already switched to BASIC.
 
  Costin
 
 
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RE: [VOTE] Switching development to C#

2002-04-01 Thread Conor MacNeill

Erik,

Are you talking to your office documents again? :-)

Conor


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 From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, 2 April 2002 1:43 PM
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Switching development to C#


 Ummm, if you're using .NET wouldn't you be able to natively talk (COM,
 perhaps) to Office documents, thereby obliviating the need for POI
 altogether?!   :)  (this is said jokingly, but if I'm off base then feel
 free to enlighten me).

 Erik


 - Original Message -
 From: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:25 PM
 Subject: RE: [VOTE] Switching development to C#


  I've been thinking about it...Perhaps we shouldn't port POI over to C#,
  perhaps we should utilize the full power of .NET and port it to all 7-13
  languages it supports currently!  Meaning
 
  POIFS = VB.NET
  HSSF = C#
  HPSF = PERL.NET
  HDF = J#
 
  I mean, thats one degree of separation!  Think of all the advantages
  learning all of these different languages (sadly I know them all except
  for C#/J# which you could argue I know via knowing Java).
 
  Gosh!  That should help POI out tremendously.
 
  -Andy
 
  On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 20:15, Paulo Gaspar wrote:
   Do you have anything against Fortran or Cobol?
  
   There will be .Net implementations for those, you know? And we could
   leverage the power of all those legacy academic and enterprise
   programmers.
  
   (I bet there are a lot of Cobol guys getting a lot of free time on
   their hands after the Y2K mess.)
  
  
   Paulo
  
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Subject: Re: [VOTE] Switching development to C#
   
   
On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Marc wrote:
   
 Having become convinced by Andy that C# and .NET are the
 wave of the
 future, I'm proposing that we switch poi development to C#.

 To the Jakarta community at large: will this affect our
 status as a
 Jakarta project? I mean, I can see where a lot of projects are
 eventually going to follow this same path ...
   
I'm ok with using .NET, but I think you should use BASIC as
 language,
not C#. .NET is language independent, and other jakarta projects
already switched to BASIC.
   
Costin
   
   
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Re: [VOTE] Switching development to C#

2002-04-01 Thread Erik Hatcher

All the time *grumble grumble - darn Microsoft Word image placement
headaches*. :)



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Subject: RE: [VOTE] Switching development to C#


 Erik,

 Are you talking to your office documents again? :-)

 Conor


  -Original Message-
  From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, 2 April 2002 1:43 PM
  To: Jakarta General List
  Subject: Re: [VOTE] Switching development to C#
 
 
  Ummm, if you're using .NET wouldn't you be able to natively talk (COM,
  perhaps) to Office documents, thereby obliviating the need for POI
  altogether?!   :)  (this is said jokingly, but if I'm off base then feel
  free to enlighten me).
 
  Erik
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:25 PM
  Subject: RE: [VOTE] Switching development to C#
 
 
   I've been thinking about it...Perhaps we shouldn't port POI over to
C#,
   perhaps we should utilize the full power of .NET and port it to all
7-13
   languages it supports currently!  Meaning
  
   POIFS = VB.NET
   HSSF = C#
   HPSF = PERL.NET
   HDF = J#
  
   I mean, thats one degree of separation!  Think of all the advantages
   learning all of these different languages (sadly I know them all
except
   for C#/J# which you could argue I know via knowing Java).
  
   Gosh!  That should help POI out tremendously.
  
   -Andy
  
   On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 20:15, Paulo Gaspar wrote:
Do you have anything against Fortran or Cobol?
   
There will be .Net implementations for those, you know? And we could
leverage the power of all those legacy academic and enterprise
programmers.
   
(I bet there are a lot of Cobol guys getting a lot of free time on
their hands after the Y2K mess.)
   
   
Paulo
   
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 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Switching development to C#


 On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Marc wrote:

  Having become convinced by Andy that C# and .NET are the
  wave of the
  future, I'm proposing that we switch poi development to C#.
 
  To the Jakarta community at large: will this affect our
  status as a
  Jakarta project? I mean, I can see where a lot of projects are
  eventually going to follow this same path ...

 I'm ok with using .NET, but I think you should use BASIC as
  language,
 not C#. .NET is language independent, and other jakarta projects
 already switched to BASIC.

 Costin


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Re: [VOTE] Switching development to C#

2002-04-01 Thread Kevin A. Burton

Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Having become convinced by Andy that C# and .NET are the wave of the future,
 I'm proposing that we switch poi development to C#.
 
 To the Jakarta community at large: will this affect our status as a Jakarta
 project? I mean, I can see where a lot of projects are eventually going to
 follow this same path ...

Why stop at Poi!?  I suggest that we move all of Jakarta over to C#

(April fools... just in case this doesn't get archived correctly.)

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