Re: Apache vote on TCK re Sun
I'd hope the ASF would vote against it in the final vote if it doesn't support open implementations with reasonable licenses. On 6/25/03 9:11 AM, "Vic Cekvenich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=20005 > > http://www.theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=19942 > > As per above I Quote: > "though IBM and Motorola still voted no. There also appear to be some > disagreements within the JCP board about the licensing of these specs. > Sun apparently plans to charge a "Per unit royalty fee which will be > dependent on volume." > > Doug Lea voted with comment. > > Apache vote with Sun with YES, without comment this says. > > I am wondering why? Other voted YES with comment. > > I personally wish they voted NO as they did in past on similar topic. I > mean look at the implications, such as JBOSS is not J2EE (no big fan of > EJB here), this makes it harder to have a Jakarta project that is JCP. > > Is anyone privy to ASF feeling on this topic related to open source in > general and Java? I know there was some agreement btwn Sun and ASF. > JCP *is* Sun domintated, but not ASF, AFAIK > IBM seems more friendly to O.S, they said OK, but had a comment. > > > .V > > > ps: This is a possibility as well down the road: > http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20030213.html > > That is why my clients don't use Sun VM in favor of BEA J:Rockit, and > IBM VM. Java would live past Sun, should the worst happen. > http://www.penguincomputing.com/graphics/desktops/eclipse1280x1024.jpg > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apache vote on TCK re Sun
http://www.theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=20005 http://www.theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=19942 As per above I Quote: "though IBM and Motorola still voted no. There also appear to be some disagreements within the JCP board about the licensing of these specs. Sun apparently plans to charge a "Per unit royalty fee which will be dependent on volume." Doug Lea voted with comment. Apache vote with Sun with YES, without comment this says. I am wondering why? Other voted YES with comment. I personally wish they voted NO as they did in past on similar topic. I mean look at the implications, such as JBOSS is not J2EE (no big fan of EJB here), this makes it harder to have a Jakarta project that is JCP. Is anyone privy to ASF feeling on this topic related to open source in general and Java? I know there was some agreement btwn Sun and ASF. JCP *is* Sun domintated, but not ASF, AFAIK IBM seems more friendly to O.S, they said OK, but had a comment. .V ps: This is a possibility as well down the road: http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20030213.html That is why my clients don't use Sun VM in favor of BEA J:Rockit, and IBM VM. Java would live past Sun, should the worst happen. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache vote on TCK re Sun
http://www.theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=20005 http://www.theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=19942 As per above I Quote: "though IBM and Motorola still voted no. There also appear to be some disagreements within the JCP board about the licensing of these specs. Sun apparently plans to charge a "Per unit royalty fee which will be dependent on volume." Doug Lea voted with comment. Apache vote with Sun with YES, without comment this says. I am wondering why? Other voted YES with comment. I personally wish they voted NO as they did in past on similar topic. I mean look at the implications, such as JBOSS is not J2EE (no big fan of EJB here), this makes it harder to have a Jakarta project that is JCP. Is anyone privy to ASF feeling on this topic related to open source in general and Java? I know there was some agreement btwn Sun and ASF. JCP *is* Sun domintated, but not ASF, AFAIK IBM seems more friendly to O.S, they said OK, but had a comment. .V ps: This is a possibility as well down the road: http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20030213.html That is why my clients don't use Sun VM in favor of BEA J:Rockit, and IBM VM. Java would live past Sun, should the worst happen. http://www.penguincomputing.com/graphics/desktops/eclipse1280x1024.jpg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]