Re: BCEL @ Jakarta

[Vincent Massol]

+0

I'll go with the majority as I don't want to block the process. I have to
admit I have not completely followed the full thread. I remember the only
concern I had when I read the first proposal was that it seemed to me that
the move to jakarta was mainly because the owner of BCEL had no longer any
time to work on it and wanted to project to live on (which is understandable
:) ). My concern was simply to know who would drive the project, as we all
know, there needs to be at least one person 100% committed to drive the
project forward. I'm sure this issue has been resolved since then and I'm
thus voting +0.

Thanks
-Vincent

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Subject: BCEL @ Jakarta


Hi,

Here's a summary of the PMC voting with respect to moving BCEL
to Jakarta:

[+1] Peter Donald
[+1] Pierpaolo Fumagalli
[+1]Ted Husted
[ ] Ceki Gülcü
[+1] Geir Magnusson Jr.
[ ] Vincent Massol
[+1] Craig McClanahan
[+1] Sam Ruby
[+1] Daniel Savarese
[+1] Jon Stevens
[+1] Jason van Zyl

This gives us the 3/4 PMC approval rating so I believe BCEL will be moving
to Jakarta unless Ceki and/or Vincent express disapproval. We'll let this
float for another day or two to let anyone get their votes/concerns
registered.

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Re: BCEL @ Jakarta

[Pier Fumagalli]

Jason van Zyl at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Here's a summary of the PMC voting with respect to moving BCEL
> to Jakarta:
> 
> [+1] Peter Donald
> [+1] Pierpaolo Fumagalli
> [+1]Ted Husted
> [ ] Ceki Gülcü
> [+1] Geir Magnusson Jr.
> [ ] Vincent Massol
> [+1] Craig McClanahan
> [+1] Sam Ruby
> [+1] Daniel Savarese
> [+1] Jon Stevens
> [+1] Jason van Zyl
> 
> This gives us the 3/4 PMC approval rating so I believe BCEL will be moving
> to Jakarta unless Ceki and/or Vincent express disapproval. We'll let this
> float for another day or two to let anyone get their votes/concerns
> registered.

Ceki is on vacation for a week, so he won't be around for sure (and his
email is down, I'm hosting it on Betaversion ATM).

Pier


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BCEL @ Jakarta

[Jason van Zyl]

Hi,

Here's a summary of the PMC voting with respect to moving BCEL
to Jakarta:

[+1] Peter Donald
[+1] Pierpaolo Fumagalli
[+1]Ted Husted
[ ] Ceki Gülcü
[+1] Geir Magnusson Jr.
[ ] Vincent Massol
[+1] Craig McClanahan
[+1] Sam Ruby
[+1] Daniel Savarese
[+1] Jon Stevens
[+1] Jason van Zyl

This gives us the 3/4 PMC approval rating so I believe BCEL will be moving
to Jakarta unless Ceki and/or Vincent express disapproval. We'll let this
float for another day or two to let anyone get their votes/concerns
registered.

-- 

jvz.

Jason van Zyl

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Re: BCEL @ Jakarta

[Craig R. McClanahan]

+1

Craig


On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, Jason van Zyl wrote:

> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 11:37:25 -0400
> From: Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: BCEL @ Jakarta
>
> Hi,
>
> Markus has just informed me that he has removed the GNU regexp dependency
> from the BCEL and is using the Jakarta Regexp package.
>
> I think it was generally agreed that the package is complete, highly useful
> and many people expressed an interested in having it be a Jakarta project.
> Markus has already made a first pass at organizing the source in a Jakarta
> like format and I have offered to help with the rest of work if we agree to
> accept the package into Jakarta.
>
> So, for the movement of BCEL to apache I would like to vote
>
> +1
>
> --
>
> jvz.
>
> Jason van Zyl
>
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Re: [Vote] BCEL @ Jakarta

[Jon Stevens]

+1

Please note: people from other projects are giving their vote...while the
voice is appreciated, that vote doesn't really count since it is only the
PMC's decision to include new projects.

-jon


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Re: [Vote] BCEL @ Jakarta

[Paul Hammant]

+1 from me (Avalon committer)


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Re: [Vote] BCEL @ Jakarta

[Ted Husted]

Nice proposal!

+1

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> 
> Hi,
> 
> I now have a proposal for BCEL which can be found here:
> 
> http://www.apache.org/~jvanzyl/jakarta-bcel
> 
> +1
> 
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> 
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Re: [Vote] BCEL @ Jakarta

[Daniel F. Savarese]

I finally caught up on the whole BCEL thread.

+1

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Re: [Vote] BCEL @ Jakarta

[Geir Magnusson Jr.]

On 10/22/01 8:59 AM, "Jason van Zyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I now have a proposal for BCEL which can be found here:
> 
> http://www.apache.org/~jvanzyl/jakarta-bcel
> 
> +1

I'm +1 with the comment that this does add a little scope creep to Jakarta.
I don't mind as much as I hope we acknowledge it.

Maybe it's time to reorganize the site and see who salutes or flames :)

geir

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Re: [Vote] BCEL @ Jakarta

[Sam Ruby]

+1

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Re: [Vote] BCEL @ Jakarta

[Peter Donald]

+1

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Re: [Vote] BCEL @ Jakarta

[Daniel Rall]

Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
>
> I now have a proposal for BCEL which can be found here:
>
> http://www.apache.org/~jvanzyl/jakarta-bcel
>
> +1

Here's my non-PMC +1.

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Re: [Vote] BCEL @ Jakarta

[Jon Stevens]

on 10/22/01 7:05 AM, "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jason van Zyl at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>>> I like their project, the only thing I'm concerned about it is here:
>>> 
>> 
>> Markus has agreed to change the licensing strictly over to the AL.
> 
> Big +1 then :)
> 
>   Pier

FYI, it is 'ASF License' or 'ASFL'...not 'AL'. The license belongs to the
'Apache Software Foundation', not 'Apache'.

-jon


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Re: [Vote] BCEL @ Jakarta

[Pier Fumagalli]

Jason van Zyl at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> I like their project, the only thing I'm concerned about it is here:
>> 
> 
> Markus has agreed to change the licensing strictly over to the AL.

Big +1 then :)

Pier


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Re: [Vote] BCEL @ Jakarta

[Jason van Zyl]

On 10/22/01 9:55 AM, "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jason van Zyl at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I now have a proposal for BCEL which can be found here:
>> 
>> http://www.apache.org/~jvanzyl/jakarta-bcel
>> 
>> +1
> 
> I like their project, the only thing I'm concerned about it is here:
> 

Markus has agreed to change the licensing strictly over to the AL.
 
> We can't really keep dual licensing with LGPL, do the folks over there know
> about it? Because on their page they wrote (quote) "I strongly encourage
> users to use the LGPL license and participate fully in the free software
> community."
> 
> That's doesn't sound very "ASF-like"... :) :) But I'm not subbed on their
> lists, and I don't know the folks over there... Any comment? (Would love to
> hear from them directly, too! Feel free to forward)
> 
>   Pier
> 
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Re: [Vote] BCEL @ Jakarta

[Conor MacNeill]

Jason van Zyl wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I now have a proposal for BCEL which can be found here:
> 
> http://www.apache.org/~jvanzyl/jakarta-bcel
> 
> +1
> 
> 

My non-binding +1

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Re: [Vote] BCEL @ Jakarta

[Pier Fumagalli]

Jason van Zyl at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I now have a proposal for BCEL which can be found here:
> 
> http://www.apache.org/~jvanzyl/jakarta-bcel
> 
> +1

I like their project, the only thing I'm concerned about it is here:


We can't really keep dual licensing with LGPL, do the folks over there know
about it? Because on their page they wrote (quote) "I strongly encourage
users to use the LGPL license and participate fully in the free software
community."

That's doesn't sound very "ASF-like"... :) :) But I'm not subbed on their
lists, and I don't know the folks over there... Any comment? (Would love to
hear from them directly, too! Feel free to forward)

Pier


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[Vote] BCEL @ Jakarta

[Jason van Zyl]

Hi,

I now have a proposal for BCEL which can be found here:

http://www.apache.org/~jvanzyl/jakarta-bcel

+1

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Re: BCEL @ Jakarta

[Jason van Zyl]

On 10/8/01 6:07 PM, "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There wasn't one for Lucene, but I'd like to get back on track. My
> proposal for the Commons is here:
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/general@jakarta.apache.org/msg00626.html

Cool. Thanks Ted.
 
> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> 
>> On 10/8/01 3:24 PM, "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Jason, could we have a proposal here?
>> 
>> Sure, not a problem. Do we archive the proposals somewhere? I'm trying to
>> find the lucene one so I can use it as a template.
>> 
>>> Creation of subprojects
>>> 
>>> PMC members may propose the creation of new subprojects. Proposals are
>>> to
>>> contain the scope of the project, identify the initial source from which
>>> the project is
>>> to be populated, identify the mailing list(s) if any which are to be
>>> created, and
>>> identify the initial set of committers. Creation of a new subproject
>>> requires approval
>>> by 3/4 vote of the PMC.
>>> 
>>> I agree that there seems to be support, but lacking a BCEL community we
>>> really need to address things like whow the 3+ committers will be.
>>> 
>>> We can then call for a [VOTE] on the proposal.
>>> 
>>> -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA.
>>> -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services.
>>> -- Tel +1 716 737-3463
>>> -- http://www.husted.com/struts/
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Re: BCEL @ Jakarta

[Ted Husted]

There wasn't one for Lucene, but I'd like to get back on track. My
proposal for the Commons is here: 

http://www.mail-archive.com/general@jakarta.apache.org/msg00626.html

Jason van Zyl wrote:
> 
> On 10/8/01 3:24 PM, "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Jason, could we have a proposal here?
> 
> Sure, not a problem. Do we archive the proposals somewhere? I'm trying to
> find the lucene one so I can use it as a template.
> 
> > Creation of subprojects
> >
> > PMC members may propose the creation of new subprojects. Proposals are
> > to
> > contain the scope of the project, identify the initial source from which
> > the project is
> > to be populated, identify the mailing list(s) if any which are to be
> > created, and
> > identify the initial set of committers. Creation of a new subproject
> > requires approval
> > by 3/4 vote of the PMC.
> >
> > I agree that there seems to be support, but lacking a BCEL community we
> > really need to address things like whow the 3+ committers will be.
> >
> > We can then call for a [VOTE] on the proposal.
> >
> > -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA.
> > -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services.
> > -- Tel +1 716 737-3463
> > -- http://www.husted.com/struts/

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Re: BCEL @ Jakarta

[Jason van Zyl]

On 10/8/01 3:24 PM, "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jason, could we have a proposal here?

Sure, not a problem. Do we archive the proposals somewhere? I'm trying to
find the lucene one so I can use it as a template.
 
> Creation of subprojects
> 
> PMC members may propose the creation of new subprojects. Proposals are
> to
> contain the scope of the project, identify the initial source from which
> the project is
> to be populated, identify the mailing list(s) if any which are to be
> created, and
> identify the initial set of committers. Creation of a new subproject
> requires approval
> by 3/4 vote of the PMC.
> 
> I agree that there seems to be support, but lacking a BCEL community we
> really need to address things like whow the 3+ committers will be.
> 
> We can then call for a [VOTE] on the proposal.
> 
> -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA.
> -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services.
> -- Tel +1 716 737-3463
> -- http://www.husted.com/struts/
> 
> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Markus has just informed me that he has removed the GNU regexp dependency
>> from the BCEL and is using the Jakarta Regexp package.
>> 
>> I think it was generally agreed that the package is complete, highly useful
>> and many people expressed an interested in having it be a Jakarta project.
>> Markus has already made a first pass at organizing the source in a Jakarta
>> like format and I have offered to help with the rest of work if we agree to
>> accept the package into Jakarta.
>> 
>> So, for the movement of BCEL to apache I would like to vote
>> 
>> +1
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> jvz.
>> 
>> Jason van Zyl
>> 
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>> http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine
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Re: BCEL @ Jakarta

[Ted Husted]

Jason, could we have a proposal here?

Creation of subprojects

PMC members may propose the creation of new subprojects. Proposals are
to
contain the scope of the project, identify the initial source from which
the project is
to be populated, identify the mailing list(s) if any which are to be
created, and
identify the initial set of committers. Creation of a new subproject
requires approval
by 3/4 vote of the PMC. 

I agree that there seems to be support, but lacking a BCEL community we
really need to address things like whow the 3+ committers will be. 

We can then call for a [VOTE] on the proposal. 

-- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA.
-- Custom Software ~ Technical Services.
-- Tel +1 716 737-3463
-- http://www.husted.com/struts/

Jason van Zyl wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Markus has just informed me that he has removed the GNU regexp dependency
> from the BCEL and is using the Jakarta Regexp package.
> 
> I think it was generally agreed that the package is complete, highly useful
> and many people expressed an interested in having it be a Jakarta project.
> Markus has already made a first pass at organizing the source in a Jakarta
> like format and I have offered to help with the rest of work if we agree to
> accept the package into Jakarta.
> 
> So, for the movement of BCEL to apache I would like to vote
> 
> +1
> 
> --
> 
> jvz.
> 
> Jason van Zyl
> 
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BCEL @ Jakarta

[Jason van Zyl]

Hi,

Markus has just informed me that he has removed the GNU regexp dependency
from the BCEL and is using the Jakarta Regexp package.

I think it was generally agreed that the package is complete, highly useful
and many people expressed an interested in having it be a Jakarta project.
Markus has already made a first pass at organizing the source in a Jakarta
like format and I have offered to help with the rest of work if we agree to
accept the package into Jakarta.

So, for the movement of BCEL to apache I would like to vote

+1

-- 

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Jason van Zyl

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