Re: [PROPOSAL] Tiles as the seed for Jakarta Web Components

2006-04-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 11:48 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote: > The Web Components thread is much older than the recent set of threads, it > was back in 2005. So I don't think we've heard your reasons against a JWC > Sub-Project as opposed to the not-community-of-community threads. i have worries abou

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tiles as the seed for Jakarta Web Components

2006-04-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 14:55 -0500, Greg Reddin wrote: > Sorry to be a latecomer to this thread. I've had some trouble > subscribing for whatever reason. But I just wanted to add that I am > working on Standalone Tiles over at the Struts project and am willing > to support it if it's moved t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tiles as the seed for Jakarta Web Components

2006-04-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
uld be a "grouping" rather than a "sub-project". So Tiles would > > be directly a Jakarta sub-project, rather than a sub-sub-project (i.e. > > becoming "Jakarta Tiles", not "Jakarta Web Components Tiles"). > > Yes, you are correct, Tiles

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tiles as the seed for Jakarta Web Components

2006-04-26 Thread Greg Reddin
een considerable discussion, on this list and others, about the creation of a Jakarta Web Components sub-project (also previously known as Jakarta Silk). I believe the concensus has been in favour of creating it. However, we seemed to get bogged down, several times, in discussions of the name

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tiles as the seed for Jakarta Web Components

2006-04-26 Thread Henri Yandell
binding +1 your way. -- James Mitchell On Apr 24, 2006, at 11:56 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: There has been considerable discussion, on this list and others, about the creation of a Jakarta Web Components sub-project (also previously known as Jakarta Silk). I believe the concensus has been in fa

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tiles as the seed for Jakarta Web Components

2006-04-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
in Cooper wrote: There has been considerable discussion, on this list and others, about the creation of a Jakarta Web Components sub-project (also previously known as Jakarta Silk). I believe the concensus has been in favour of creating it. However, we seemed to get

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tiles as the seed for Jakarta Web Components

2006-04-25 Thread Martin Cooper
iles would > be directly a Jakarta sub-project, rather than a sub-sub-project (i.e. > becoming "Jakarta Tiles", not "Jakarta Web Components Tiles"). Yes, you are correct, Tiles would be a Jakarta sub-project within the JWC grouping. I guess I was trying to simplify the pr

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tiles as the seed for Jakarta Web Components

2006-04-25 Thread Martin Cooper
at 11:56 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: > > > >> There has been considerable discussion, on this list and others, about > >> the > >> creation of a Jakarta Web Components sub-project (also previously > >> known as > >> Jakarta Silk). I believe the concensu

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tiles as the seed for Jakarta Web Components

2006-04-25 Thread Nathan Bubna
oming "Jakarta Tiles", not "Jakarta Web Components Tiles"). I do also like Andrew's term "sub-community" as that describes the true intent of having these "groupings". As far as a formal scope to be attached to the Jakarta Web Components group goes,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tiles as the seed for Jakarta Web Components

2006-04-25 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
ote, then I, as both a Struts PMC and a Jakarta PMC member, would throw a binding +1 your way. -- James Mitchell On Apr 24, 2006, at 11:56 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: There has been considerable discussion, on this list and others, about the creation of a Jakarta Web Components sub-project (

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tiles as the seed for Jakarta Web Components

2006-04-25 Thread James Mitchell
considerable discussion, on this list and others, about the creation of a Jakarta Web Components sub-project (also previously known as Jakarta Silk). I believe the concensus has been in favour of creating it. However, we seemed to get bogged down, several times, in discussions of the name, or of

[PROPOSAL] Tiles as the seed for Jakarta Web Components

2006-04-24 Thread Martin Cooper
There has been considerable discussion, on this list and others, about the creation of a Jakarta Web Components sub-project (also previously known as Jakarta Silk). I believe the concensus has been in favour of creating it. However, we seemed to get bogged down, several times, in discussions of

Re: Jakarta Web Components

2006-03-14 Thread Ortwin Glück
robert burrell donkin wrote: i think that's one of the advantages of flattening karma and voting: . we need to separate the formal legal structure (karma, voting) from the community (developers hanging out) from the ontological (communicating that the components are). from an ontological per

Re: Jakarta Web Components

2006-03-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 19:49 +0100, Ortwin Glück wrote: > > Sandy McArthur wrote: > > As a programmer looking for useful code to help me with uploaded > > files, I'm going to look in something named Jakarta *Web* Components > > first. When I see Jakarta HTTP Component

Re: Jakarta Web Components

2006-03-06 Thread Ortwin Glück
Sandy McArthur wrote: As a programmer looking for useful code to help me with uploaded files, I'm going to look in something named Jakarta *Web* Components first. When I see Jakarta HTTP Components I think of interacting with the HTTP protocol. I know FileUpload does both, but when I'

Re: Jakarta Web Components + Jakarta HttpComponents

2006-03-06 Thread Sandy McArthur
On 3/6/06, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/6/06, Oleg Kalnichevski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > May I, however, express my (humble) opinion that some of the Commons > > [FileUpload] code may find a better home in Commons [Codec]. To me, all > > the mime/multipart parsing logic clea

Re: Jakarta Web Components

2006-03-06 Thread Sandy McArthur
anywhere.) As a programmer looking for useful code to help me with uploaded files, I'm going to look in something named Jakarta *Web* Components first. When I see Jakarta HTTP Components I think of interacting with the HTTP protocol. I know FileUpload does both, but when I'm writing an

Re: Jakarta Web Components + Jakarta HttpComponents

2006-03-06 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 3/6/06, Oleg Kalnichevski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 10:14 -0800, Martin Cooper wrote: > > On 3/6/06, Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On 3/6/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > (feel free to keep discussing names etc, but for

Re: Jakarta Web Components + Jakarta HttpComponents

2006-03-06 Thread Oleg Kalnichevski
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 10:14 -0800, Martin Cooper wrote: > On 3/6/06, Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 3/6/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > (feel free to keep discussing names etc, but for the moment I'm going to > > > go ahead with the one above) > > > >

Re: Jakarta Web Components

2006-03-06 Thread Ortwin Glück
Henri Yandell wrote: On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Martin Cooper wrote: On 3/6/06, Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * FileUpload (active, martinc should confirm interest in moving to JWC) I'm not so sure about this. FileUpload has already cloned some code from HttpClient, and could undoub

Re: Jakarta Web Components

2006-03-06 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Martin Cooper wrote: On 3/6/06, Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Allow me to informally assemble the beginnings of a roster, hopefully others can add/remove. From Commons: * EL (dormant?) * FileUpload (active, martinc should confirm interest in moving to JWC)

Re: Jakarta Web Components

2006-03-06 Thread Martin Cooper
On 3/6/06, Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3/6/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > (feel free to keep discussing names etc, but for the moment I'm going to > > go ahead with the one above) > > > > > But do it within a reasonable time frame (atleast post any objecti

Re: Jakarta Web Components

2006-03-06 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 3/6/06, Yoav Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hola, > > > From Commons: > > > > * EL (dormant?) > > Tricky status here, and here's why: the JSP 2.1 spec has EL changes, > and they're significant enough that Jacob Hookum did an almost > cleanroom implementation of EL. He's a newly-elected T

Re: Jakarta Web Components

2006-03-06 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Yoav Shapira wrote: Hola, From Commons: * EL (dormant?) Tricky status here, and here's why: the JSP 2.1 spec has EL changes, and they're significant enough that Jacob Hookum did an almost cleanroom implementation of EL. He's a newly-elected Tomcat committer (Tomcat 6

Re: Jakarta Web Components

2006-03-06 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hola, > From Commons: > > * EL (dormant?) Tricky status here, and here's why: the JSP 2.1 spec has EL changes, and they're significant enough that Jacob Hookum did an almost cleanroom implementation of EL. He's a newly-elected Tomcat committer (Tomcat 6 will support JSP 2.1) and is in the proce

Re: Jakarta Web Components

2006-03-06 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 3/6/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (feel free to keep discussing names etc, but for the moment I'm going to > go ahead with the one above) > But do it within a reasonable time frame (atleast post any objections to JWC in a week -- I think thats reasonable, unless anyone wants

Jakarta Web Components

2006-03-05 Thread Henri Yandell
(feel free to keep discussing names etc, but for the moment I'm going to go ahead with the one above) Would anyone like to start putting together a list of constituent parts for JWC? Please include a proposal for what will happen to any subprojects left dead by the creation of JWC (ie: Tagli