News, RSS, blogs, Cocoon (Re: news@jakarta list?)

2002-03-08 Thread Jeff Turner

On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 12:00:11PM +0100, Santiago Gala wrote:
...
 Then could we perhaps have a news@jakarta list for this sort of thing? A
 lot of people find announcements like this relevant and interesting.
 
 On a related (technological) note:
 
 We Jetspeed people (actually Raphael Lutta) put one year ago RSS 
 channels, for our own purposes of showing them in the demo Jetspeed setup:
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/channels/apache.ocs is an Open 
 Content Syndication feed
 http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/channels/jetspeed.rss is a channel 
 for Jetspeed
 http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/channels/turbine.rss is a channel for 
 turbine
 
 The RSS mechanism could be easily used for news and content syndication 
 @apache. Channels can be added, generated, etc. for different projects 
 or activities, and used for dynamic linking to apache news from outside 
 the web site.

Sounds nice. Is this demo Jetspeed setup actually live somewhere?

Adding some weblogs as newsfeeds would be good too. Weblogs are
wonderful things. Have a look at http://www.need-a-cake.com/

Any JAMES people lurking here? Would it be possible to rig up a mailet
that wraps incoming posts in XML and makes them available as an RSS feed?
That way we could have an easy-to-use news submission process.

FYI (for those who weren't aware), there's a new xml-forrest project
project at xml.apache.org, specifically for things like this.

Another FYI for Jetspeed people: Cocoon is very much encroaching on your
portal turf ;) See
http://www.need-a-cake.com/stories/2002/02/14/cocoonPortalFirstLook.html


--Jeff

(idling.. friday evening..)


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Re: News, RSS, blogs, Cocoon (Re: news@jakarta list?)

2002-03-08 Thread Santiago Gala

Jeff Turner wrote:

On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 12:00:11PM +0100, Santiago Gala wrote:
...

Then could we perhaps have a news@jakarta list for this sort of thing? A
lot of people find announcements like this relevant and interesting.

On a related (technological) note:

We Jetspeed people (actually Raphael Lutta) put one year ago RSS 
channels, for our own purposes of showing them in the demo Jetspeed setup:

http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/channels/apache.ocs is an Open 
Content Syndication feed
http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/channels/jetspeed.rss is a channel 
for Jetspeed
http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/channels/turbine.rss is a channel for 
turbine

The RSS mechanism could be easily used for news and content syndication 
@apache. Channels can be added, generated, etc. for different projects 
or activities, and used for dynamic linking to apache news from outside 
the web site.


Sounds nice. Is this demo Jetspeed setup actually live somewhere?

I have a copy running at

http://hisitech.com/jetspeed/ (rather out of date, and messed up by 
hundreds of people customizing layout).
David Taylor uses to have one around http://bluesunrise.com/jetspeed

There are portals using Jetspeed around (see 
http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/site/usejetspeed.html), but most use 
their own feeds.


Adding some weblogs as newsfeeds would be good too. Weblogs are
wonderful things. Have a look at http://www.need-a-cake.com/

Any JAMES people lurking here? Would it be possible to rig up a mailet
that wraps incoming posts in XML and makes them available as an RSS feed?
That way we could have an easy-to-use news submission process.

FYI (for those who weren't aware), there's a new xml-forrest project
project at xml.apache.org, specifically for things like this.

I knew this one.


Another FYI for Jetspeed people: Cocoon is very much encroaching on your
portal turf ;) See
http://www.need-a-cake.com/stories/2002/02/14/cocoonPortalFirstLook.html

I know. Further, cocoon and Jetspeed people should team together to 
ensure that Sun's JSR#168 standardizes around a reasonable Portlet API 
specification, specially WRT SAX stream portlets, so that Cocoon can 
implement a portlet container respecting the standard and using Cocoons 
streaming capabilities at the same time. Jetspeed will be conformant to 
the ByteStream or SAX stream API rather easily, and at due time, using 
jsp and/or Velocity.



--Jeff

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