Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Move ECS, ORO and Regexp to Attic

2010-09-04 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Vadim Gritsenko va...@reverycodes.com wrote:
 On Aug 18, 2010, at 12:23 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:

 With RegEx in Java since 1.4, I do not see the need for these libs aside 
 from legacy application support. I consider mothballing a service to the 
 community at large: please, join us in the 21st century, port your RegEx 
 code to Java 1.4. ;)

 I guess not everybody is satisfied with Java 1.4 version yet, otherwise there 
 would be no such wide variety of choices:
 http://tusker.org/regex/regex_benchmark.html

However that page seems to indicate that Jakarta Regexp is not
preferable to Java 1.4. Given that, the question is whether we believe
we'll be improving it dramatically rather than merely bugfix. Of
course there might be other reasons why Regexp is preferable.

ORO does do better than Java 1.4 and would seem to be the product
worth attention if we want to support a 'java.util.regex' isn't good
enough angle.

Hen

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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Move ECS, ORO and Regexp to Attic

2010-08-18 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
On Aug 18, 2010, at 12:23 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:

 With RegEx in Java since 1.4, I do not see the need for these libs aside from 
 legacy application support. I consider mothballing a service to the community 
 at large: please, join us in the 21st century, port your RegEx code to Java 
 1.4. ;)

I guess not everybody is satisfied with Java 1.4 version yet, otherwise there 
would be no such wide variety of choices:
http://tusker.org/regex/regex_benchmark.html

Vadim


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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Move ECS, ORO and Regexp to Attic

2010-08-17 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:16 AM, Rahul Akolkar wrote:

 This is a vote (or more correctly, three independent votes) to move
 Jakarta ECS, Jakarta ORO and Jakarta Regexp to the Apache Attic, based
 on the outcome of the most recent discussion on the topic.

There is one unreleased bugfix on trunk since the last regexp release, that's 
probably the only reason stopping me from voting +1. But if you are eager to 
mothball it, I won't object. My vote is +0.

Vadim


 Since none of these subprojects may have enough PMC members active,
 this vote will be held by lazy consensus.
 
 If you object, please also provide a reasonable explanation.
 
 Vote runs for a week, ending no sooner than Aug 22nd, ~1:00 am Eastern
 US. Vote is being held on gene...@jao but is being cross-posted to
 ensure we reach the full audience. Please include gene...@jao in your
 reply.
 
 -Rahul


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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Move ECS, ORO and Regexp to Attic

2010-08-17 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Vadim Gritsenko va...@reverycodes.com wrote:
 On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:16 AM, Rahul Akolkar wrote:

 This is a vote (or more correctly, three independent votes) to move
 Jakarta ECS, Jakarta ORO and Jakarta Regexp to the Apache Attic, based
 on the outcome of the most recent discussion on the topic.

 There is one unreleased bugfix on trunk since the last regexp release, that's 
 probably the only reason stopping me from voting +1. But if you are eager to 
 mothball it, I won't object. My vote is +0.

snip/

I wouldn't say I'm eager to mothball any codebase, its upto the
remaining developers of each of these codebases. In recent
discussions, it seemed like one or more of the mentioned codebases may
be ready for the Attic.

My opinion is that unless we anticipate release activity, we can go
ahead with the move. WRT Regex then, were/are you planning a release
some time in the not so distant future with said bugfix? If so, it'd
be great to make that release and then mothball it -- worth waiting in
that case. What do you think?

-Rahul


 Vadim


 Since none of these subprojects may have enough PMC members active,
 this vote will be held by lazy consensus.

 If you object, please also provide a reasonable explanation.

 Vote runs for a week, ending no sooner than Aug 22nd, ~1:00 am Eastern
 US. Vote is being held on gene...@jao but is being cross-posted to
 ensure we reach the full audience. Please include gene...@jao in your
 reply.

 -Rahul


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RE: [VOTE][LAZY] Move ECS, ORO and Regexp to Attic

2010-08-17 Thread Gary Gregory
For ORO and RegEx I am +1 to mothball. With RegEx in Java since 1.4, I do not 
see the need for these libs aside from legacy application support. I consider 
mothballing a service to the community at large: please, join us in the 21st 
century, port your RegEx code to Java 1.4. ;)

Gary Gregory
Senior Software Engineer
Seagull Software
email: ggreg...@seagullsoftware.com
email: ggreg...@apache.org
www.seagullsoftware.com 

 -Original Message-
 From: Rahul Akolkar [mailto:rahul.akol...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 18:19
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Move ECS, ORO and Regexp to Attic
 
 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Vadim Gritsenko va...@reverycodes.com
 wrote:
  On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:16 AM, Rahul Akolkar wrote:
 
  This is a vote (or more correctly, three independent votes) to move
  Jakarta ECS, Jakarta ORO and Jakarta Regexp to the Apache Attic, based
  on the outcome of the most recent discussion on the topic.
 
  There is one unreleased bugfix on trunk since the last regexp release,
 that's probably the only reason stopping me from voting +1. But if you are
 eager to mothball it, I won't object. My vote is +0.
 
 snip/
 
 I wouldn't say I'm eager to mothball any codebase, its upto the
 remaining developers of each of these codebases. In recent
 discussions, it seemed like one or more of the mentioned codebases may
 be ready for the Attic.
 
 My opinion is that unless we anticipate release activity, we can go
 ahead with the move. WRT Regex then, were/are you planning a release
 some time in the not so distant future with said bugfix? If so, it'd
 be great to make that release and then mothball it -- worth waiting in
 that case. What do you think?
 
 -Rahul
 
 
  Vadim
 
 
  Since none of these subprojects may have enough PMC members active,
  this vote will be held by lazy consensus.
 
  If you object, please also provide a reasonable explanation.
 
  Vote runs for a week, ending no sooner than Aug 22nd, ~1:00 am Eastern
  US. Vote is being held on gene...@jao but is being cross-posted to
  ensure we reach the full audience. Please include gene...@jao in your
  reply.
 
  -Rahul
 
 
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