this is. Is www.openmeetings.de
a genuine free-for-all to sign up and play? And what would be a good
time of day to find life there?
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interest!
From your POV as king of infra, what uses of this might you
envisage @apache.org?
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it more deserving of
apache's attention? It's not even the most open of mobile platforms!
Something I could be interested in is a lab for cross-platform
mobile development. But I don't have a proposal that would
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-1 to a project that could end up being called Apache Validation or
just Validation. That's too big/general a word for a project name.
No objection under a changed name. I'd suggest adding an
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Fire Safety Compliance Validation ...). A project called Validation
will turn up when they google - especially if someone's successive blog
entries are about [this] Validation and my tax return. So the name
should carry some hint about it.
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On 26 Feb 2010, at 19:01, Kevan Miller wrote:
On Feb 23, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Nick Kew wrote:
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:51:35 -0500
Donald Woods dwo...@apache.org wrote:
I'm open to suggestions BeanValidation, OpenValidation, Validera, ...
Any of those work for me, though
the lifetime of the project so you can expect to be able to contact
everyone?
What about the required OSS-licensed components? You mention
MySQL - you'd (probably) want a specific exception for that, in the
manner of the APR's one.
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My understanding is that for a 'category A' license like BSD you just
add it to NOTICES.
Indeed. We have precedent on bundling of third-party code,
such as expat and pcre.
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Strong +1 in principle. I'd offer to mentor, but I see you now have plenty.
One niggle: have you clarified somewhere that all the dependencies
licenses are Apache-compatible? The openjena.org page referenced
relies on references that are broken links!
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+1, as indicated in my post on the first thread.
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Hypothetically if this donation had happened before the
OOO/ODF split, can I assume that you would you have regarded it
as a solution to the underlying problems and never have split?
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viable developer community around the project. Does Amaya have that?
[1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html
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This is going to put more burden than ${average-project} on them.
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nor exclude them.
* It's outside our core competence. This kind of takeover has
been damaging for many ambitious corporations.
Having said all that, if we do accept it for incubation then
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spell checker, or a simple mistake if you've seen it used.
That now looks like an unfortunate typo.
Where has podlet ever appeared in an Apache Incubator context?
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reading this? Has this kind of discussion already
happened?
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then we're safe,
but what I'm thinking of is additional safeguards against the danger
of someone smuggling in bogus keys purporting to be ours.
As of now, how would you know if I were to smuggle in a key
pretending to be yours and start signing things?
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libraries such as
Redland family? Your proposal lists a couple of users: did they
develop it to meet a need for which there was previously no solution?
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, and I'm not sure whether you
should change the proposal after voting has started. But I'm
fine with it either way.
It's a while since I've been involved in either semweb or java
projects, but this one looks interesting!
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I've seen a couple of recent references to Apache OpenOffice appearing
in public places. Places for which Apache committers are responsible.
Have I missed a graduation, or a change in practice concerning use of
the Apache trademark in the context of incubating projects?
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. None of those three are
qualified with any hint at its incubating status.
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understanding
of the incubator rules.
If a blog gets aggregated, then readers will see what appears in their
aggregator, as I did. That's without the context of the page title in your
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Nor what appears on planet.apache.org, featuring the article that first
struck me
as using the name in a way I wouldn't expect when I read it in my feed reader:
http://www.robweir.com/blog/2012/06/pache-openoffice-34-downloads.html
Following
in turn automatically signs everyone's keys. Were it not for the risk
of rather serious misunderstanding, I should advocate such a key.
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well - to reassure me.
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willy-nilly.
PGP/GPG support different levels of trust, so the model helps there.
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You have to extend that assumption not only to our infrastructure but to
every proxy that might come between us and a user, and that might
substitute a trojan along with the trojan's own SHA1.
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On 11 Oct 2012, at 09:57, Noah Slater wrote:
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You have to extend that assumption not only to our infrastructure but to
every proxy that might come between us and a user, and that might
substitute a trojan along
, that is
an entirely different problem,
Sure. If someone we elect as committer smuggles in a trojan, no amount of
security
after the event will help. That's a different issue to the one I thought we
were
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a mindblowing amount of data to manage), but I hope my background
might still serve to kick-start an involvement!
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I'll be interested in this.
Would it be useful for me to don an ASF hat and offer to
help mentoring this? I'll also (naturally) be looking from
httpd/proxy eyes.
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I'll be interested in this.
Would it be useful for me to don an ASF hat and offer to
help mentoring this? I'll also (naturally) be looking from
httpd/proxy eyes.
Just say the word, and I'll add you to the proposed mentor
on the proposal. I want this project to happen,
whether or not I have a formal role mentoring it.
But obviously I don't speak for anyone else, so that's -1 on any
proposal that involves arbitrarily excluding two prospective
mentors just to get the numbers right.
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of OpenMiracl.
I'll attach the full draft proposal here, and upload to the
wiki once I've sorted access there.
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# Project Proposal: OpenMiracl
## Abstract
OpenMiracl is a distributed cryptosystem for cloud computing. Its purpose is to provide an open source alternative to proprietary
On Tue, 2015-11-10 at 01:33 +, Nick Kew wrote:
> [chop]
I need to declare my own interest here.
I first approached Certivox in search of solutions to the
problems of online identity, and made some suggestions.
They welcomed my interest, and I am now undertaking
development work for t
On Tue, 2015-11-10 at 01:33 +, Nick Kew wrote:
> I should like to propose that we consider OpenMiracl for incubation.
This proposal is now at
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenMiraclProposal
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> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Nick Kew <n...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2015-11-10 at 01:33 +, Nick Kew wrote:
> > > I should like to propose that we consider OpenMiracl for incubation.
&
teresting. The suggestion was floated that our
project could be Apache MIRACL (sharing the name), but I
thought ASF wouldn't be happy with that. Overcautious? :)
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write access. Can someone with the relevant karma
please enable me?
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he political circumstances (Oracle vs LibreOffice)
were a concern for some.
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r claim than that.
OpenOffice is clear and distinctive, despite an altogether more
complex situation of a name sharing a root with both related and
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On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 14:53:03 +
Jan Willem Janssen <janwillem.jans...@luminis.eu> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > On 10 Nov 2015, at 10:29, Nick Kew <n...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2015-11-10 at 01:33 +, Nick Kew wrote:
> >> I shoul
On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 19:36 -0800, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> Thanks for working with us, Brian. As far as I'm concerned, the name
> "Milagro" sounds great -- a clearly distinct brand, yet evoking its
> origins.
I've updated the proposal to use the new name. It's now at
hink we're overdue submitting this for a [VOTE].
I'll get on with it right now!
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=== Existing team at NTT: ===
. Go Yamamoto - Cryptographer
. Kenji Takahishi - Developer
=== Existing ASF Member: ===
. Nick Kew - Developer
== Alignment: ==
Whereas Milagro has no track record of its own, the Certivox (now
MIRACL) team have been working on related projects at Github.
On Tue, 2015-12-15 at 08:56 +, Nick Kew wrote:
> I should like to call a vote to accept Milagro into
> the Incubator. The full proposal is available at
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MilagroProposal
> as well as below.
The vote passes:
+1: 12 votes (9 *binding)
0:
ty through the linguistic association with
the miracle.
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> A Milagro is a charm that is used to bring about a miracle, so the subtext
> hopefully will carry the day.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milagro_(votive)
>
> Alex, thanks for getting the ball rolling on
ny more diverse.
Is there a risk of this remaining a company project in all but name?
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ing for ...
well, I guess your reply and the links in it.
Lots more reading to do, but I see it's moved from RDF and
pie-in-the-sky to JSON and some more realistic expectations.
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> Lastly, we have a Champion (Daniel Gruno), but are still in need of Mentors.
Is that still the case? I've given it some more thought:
if you're short of mentors, you can put me down.
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using URIs used as invariants in RDF with URLs you
dereference on the Web, as W3 annotea was?
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ude it complete?
The main thing I'd consider is replacing that mention of
CREDITS with a URL for the original.
But I'm not a lawyer, nor do I even subscribe to legal@apache.
Don't take my word as even remotely informed.
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make all efforts to avoid that. A key that
can't be verified adds no more security than an MD5 checksum.
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ng).
+1
You have potential to be a great Apache project.
Let's make it happen!
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Not everyone does that. But since you're asking, I guess you
don't already have a clear alternative idea.
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be a
valuable addition to the Traffic Control CDN. "
To me that raises a couple of questions:
- Would association with ATS really hold you back?
- How much overlap is there between the dev communities?
I'm wondering if the experience of separating HTTPD and APR
might ju
of "we need a new APR
release that'll support [new HTTPD feature]". At the same time, the
original reason for the separation - that APR has applications outside
httpd (Apache SVN being one such) - works well.
On reflection, you probably have a cleaner separation than that anyway.
+1 (bindi
messages that persuaded me to stitch to using
my @apache.org address when I sign up to an apache list
(10+ years ago). Delivering to an @apache.org address
triggers them too.
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address and list admin addresses (which I think it does).
But this belongs in a [DISCUSS] thread. When did I miss it?
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rsed the options!
(this was a big issue in gerrymandering our referendum -
there have been academic studies on how the question
affects how people vote).
Anyway, -1 (binding), at least until my points above about
potential for misleading have been answered.
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ive medium of communication?
- Are decisions that should have a public/archived trail being
taken off-list in ephemeral media?
> Rather, they prefer to use a forum on QQ communicating in Chinese.
Language is an important question, but isn't it orthogonal
to that of what communication medium
answer is very likely Yes.
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re, from the
academic communities of MIT and Harvard to your own company.
Within Apache, take a look at the committer map at
people.apache.org to find Apache folks in your area.
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Looks interesting. Echoes of AI of old, in a context of
much more data?
Commit activity looks like virtually a one-man project.
Your issue tracker shows some signs of healthy interest,
but is there anywhere else I could see evidence of your
community?
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 19:04:32 +
Otto van der Schaaf <osch...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I would like to start a VOTE to bring the PageSpeed project in as an
> Apache incubator
> podling.
submit a proposal.
Romain wrote:
> Also it will let Graphviz time to handle the license switch.
That's the kind of issue that could be quite big. If it has a long history
under another
license, you may have lots of contributors with a stake in it who would have to
agre
iumph. It has demonstrated that Apache policy
is to confuse an issue just enough to cause the scholars
to debate at length how many angels can dance on the pinhead
of a release.
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pressure, I should
mention that mentor signoff date is next Tuesday (sept 11), so no hurry.
I expect I'm not the only one to have looked at one or more report and
paused to decide whether anything in it merits mentor comment.
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> Posting to both dev@milagro and general@incubator.
> Would folks be happy for me to set up a page for this purpose
> under wiki/incubator? I would propose a skeleton (mainly a
> set of headings) and loo
determine whether it
makes sense to resolve at apache or retire it to its
prior home at github.
Would folks be happy for me to set up a page for this purpose
under wiki/incubator? I would propose a skeleton (mainly a
set of headings) and look to the community to flesh it out.
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sion.
If you've just been doing battle with the docs, maybe
you might have ideas on how to improve them?
(my recollection is of figuring out details like that
largely by looking at a previous release - obviously
not so useful for a new project!
mmunity.
> I think my questions should be common. If you agree, I volunteer to
> contribute the answers to the website to help others boarding on the
> incubator.
That's a Very Good Way to earn goodwill around her
oment of panic and done the job.
> I'm also curious to know if you hadn't seen the reminder would you have
> remembered to sign off the reports by the due date?
A fair question. In my case, yes this month and usually, but it might be
helpful from time to time when my attention is else
Enough to provoke an "I won't be bullied" reaction.
I will sign off (and I still need to raise one podling separately),
but surely it could be better accomplished by a non-confrontational
reminder?
> Assuming the mentors are missing
... might look fairer if the dea
is not Apache -
if the site contents are managed by a community that differs
from the Apache community (maybe a subset of the project
committers, or - far worse - a contributing *company*) -
that would seem to suggest a less-than-open community
around the site, and I'd
e-incubation site.
But this was the wrong context for that. I apologise for the intrusion.
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ce than for individual projects to
replicate KEYS?
Especially for the many folks who are involved with multiple projects!
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you were going to sign off PageSpeed? It currently has no signs off
> and will be asked to report next month if doesn’t get one. I can sign off the
> report for you if you want, and I assume you have read it and can confirm
> here that you were going to sign it
at github, where it was
missing.
No complaints about the Apache pages.
I've got some minor comments that belong not here but on the dev list - bug me
if I
haven't posted something within a week or two: reminders, including the one you
recently sent me, always welcome.
But based on this discussion, you now
ible from the download page?
(2) I wasn't able to establish a chain of trust.
Henk's tool https://pgp.cs.uu.nl/ thinks it's not
in the Strong Set at all.
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re jumping in! This can be a sticking-point.
Does it relate to one or more existing Apache project? If so, that would be a
good
place to look for folks who'll take an interest.
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lihood of a contributor being new to Apache and getting
entangled
with possible rights or claims of a third-party - such as an employer under a
"we own
everything you do" clause. Doesn't hurt to sign it over explicitly!
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