On Dec 30, 2003, at 8:37 PM, Harish Krishnaswamy wrote:
Martin Cooper wrote:
This doesn't seem quite right to me.
I agree that when we have voted in a new committer, both the existing
committers and the new committer have had the same expectations with
respect to their rights and responsibilitie
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
On Dec 30, 2003, at 8:37 PM, Harish Krishnaswamy wrote:
Martin Cooper wrote:
This doesn't seem quite right to me.
I agree that when we have voted in a new committer, both the existing
committers and the new committer have had the same expectations with
respect to t
If I were the chair of the Jakarta PMC and a board member and favored seeing
Jakarta split up into TLPs, I'd do this:
1. Put everyone on the PMC
2. Get them in a reorganization type discussion
Because the bulk of the 700? committers at Apache are in Jakarta and the
bulk of the discussion has no t
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:13:59 -0500
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> If I were the chair of the Jakarta PMC and a board member and favored seeing
> Jakarta split up into TLPs, I'd do this:
>
> 1. Put everyone on the PMC
> 2. Get them in a reorganization type discussion
In HTTPD/APR world. mostly Apache
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:13:59 -0500
> Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>
> > If I were the chair of the Jakarta PMC and a board member and favored seeing
> > Jakarta split up into TLPs, I'd do this:
> >
> > 1. Put everyone on the PMC
> > 2. Get them in a reorg
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 10:18:29 -0500
Ted Husted wrote:
> If Struts does graduate to a TLP, I would update the wiki page based
> on our own experience (if someone doesn't beat me to it) and post a
> link to all the DEV lists. (Unless, of course, the growing consensus
> changes and the PMC decides to
Hi, Henri and all
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:44:31 -0500 (EST)
Henri Yandell wrote:
> > I'd like to see the "jakarta XXX PMC" groups to be organized into
> > subgroups realms. "Jakarta" has it's own brand. You can have either
> > "Jakarta POI" or "Apache POI", i guess... subsets of the group.
> > ..
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
> Henri Yandell wrote:
> > Two major options seem to be:
> > 1) Big PMC that everyone is on, with the reality that we have
> >interest in various areas.
> > 2) Promote projects to TLP.
> 2) is not realistic.
Why not? I don't agree that ALL projects should, but Henri d
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:36:27 -0500
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
> > Henri Yandell wrote:
> > > Two major options seem to be:
> > > 1) Big PMC that everyone is on, with the reality that we have
> > >interest in various areas.
> > > 2) Promote projects to TLP.
>
> > 2) is n
> In HTTPD/APR world. mostly Apache MEMBERS = Apache COMMITTERS.
> (OH, you pointed it our, 6 months ago ;-)!
>
You must mean HTTPD PMC Members ~= HTTPD Committers more ore less. Yes.
Size matters. This is obviously not feasible for Jakarta as we are
demonstrating so aptly.
> You/I "can" see
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 14:27:30 -0500
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> > In HTTPD/APR world. mostly Apache MEMBERS = Apache COMMITTERS.
> > (OH, you pointed it our, 6 months ago ;-)!
> You must mean HTTPD PMC Members ~= HTTPD Committers more ore less. Yes.
Obvious. HTTPD (Apache HTTP WebServer Project) do
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