Re: Action regarding umbrella PMCs

2001-03-06 Thread Conor MacNeill
From: "Roy T. Fielding" [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is, the PMC is supposed to be elected by the committers on the project, or include all of the committers on the project, because that's pretty much the only way to ensure that what we do remains a true collaboration and doesn't degrade into some

Re: Action regarding umbrella PMCs

2001-03-06 Thread Sam Ruby
Conor MacNeill wrote: This statement would seem to be in conflict with the PMC bylaws. The PMC bylaws are broken in a number of areas. Is the ASF board overriding the PMC bylaws just in this instance or does this principle hold for all PMC appointments? If it is the latter, then do the

Re: Action regarding umbrella PMCs [long]

2001-03-06 Thread Ted Husted
Conor MacNeill wrote: Is the ASF board overriding the PMC bylaws just in this instance or does this principle hold for all PMC appointments? If it is the latter, then do the bylaws need to be amended to that effect? Sam Ruby wrote: The PMC bylaws are broken in a number of areas. ... /

Re: Action regarding umbrella PMCs

2001-03-06 Thread Conor MacNeill
From: "Sam Ruby" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roy is not overriding the PMC bylaws, he is simply describing the original intent of the board. That being said, I agree with Roy. Oh, I agree too. I am just wondering how all this fits together. For example the recent vote by PMC members on PMC nominees.

RE: Action regarding umbrella PMCs [long]

2001-03-06 Thread Sam Ruby
Henri Gomez wrote: Pierpaolo Fumagalli is IBMer ? At the time he did accept paychecks from IBM. Now he accepts paychecks from Sun. In between he accepted paychecks from a company named Exoffice which changed its name to Intalio. Who you accept paychecks from and who you are can be quite

Re: Action regarding umbrella PMCs

2001-03-06 Thread Sam Ruby
Conor MacNeill wrote: Oh, I agree too. I am just wondering how all this fits together. For example the recent vote by PMC members on PMC nominees. Is that superceded by this statement? What is the plan from here? My bias is towards evolution, so we'll try that first. If not, there always is

Re: Action regarding umbrella PMCs [long]

2001-03-06 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
GOMEZ Henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elias Bayeh, IBM[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hans Bergstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] James Davidson, Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pierpaolo Fumagalli, IBM[EMAIL PROTECTED] Craig McClanahan, MyTownNet [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Action regarding umbrella PMCs [long]

2001-03-06 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who you accept paychecks from and who you are can be quite different things. Pier is a perfect example. Meaning that no-matter who "owned" me, I've always been the usual pain in the ass :) :) :) :) Pier --

Re: Action regarding umbrella PMCs

2001-03-05 Thread Roy T. Fielding
Hello everyone, The Apache Software Foundation exists to provide a solid legal foundation under U.S. corporate law for many of the collaborative activities that were formerly done by a group of individuals called the Apache Group. Our status as a corporation allows us to protect the work of