RE: Maven is growing
Is it not ok to post strong language on this list? Are there kids around? Un saludo, Alex Fernández. -Mensaje original- De: Sale, Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: viernes 3 de mayo de 2002 21:13 Para: 'Jakarta General List' Asunto: RE: Maven is growing agreed. the swearing (http://www.mail-archive.com/general@jakarta.apache.org/msg051 30.html), self-congratulating web page (http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon.html), and general attitude is disheartening. most of us don't need others to step in and defend our 'nice-guy' status. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 1:18 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Maven is growing On Fri, 3 May 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: well, just yesterday we had: [daedalus] 10:56am ~ grep -c /maven/ 02 7546 Looks like the *entire* life of your project has been around 9500... OhhA My english vocabulary is too limited to express what I feel reading this... Maybe ashamed to be in the same 'community' with this kind of person. Costin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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There used to be, at least, back when I was 17... grz, - Leo On Mon, 2002-05-06 at 13:05, Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro wrote: Is it not ok to post strong language on this list? Are there kids around? Un saludo, Alex Fernández. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maven is growing
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon.html Jon, where the HECK did you get that picture from? I'm going to spread it to a huge chunk of common friends pretty soon :) BTW, the content of that page, is right... I mean, I've been around since more or less Jon has (probably couple of months less? Jon, whaddayasay), and this comes on and on and on every two months? How come that, after having written the first alpha of cocoon (XSLT XSLT and more XSLT, including the first version of XML.APACHE.ORG, Stylebook, contributed to Xerces and Xalan...) , after working 8 hours a day, 5 days a week on JSPs (look http://www.vnunet.com/ it's all JSP based), and basically saying every now and then that IMO turbine, velocity, and all stuff is just a huge pile o' crap, I almost never get flamed and Jon is one of my best friends? You kids are flame-war amateurs :) Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon.html Jon, where the HECK did you get that picture from? I'm going to spread it to a huge chunk of common friends pretty soon :) _freze_ how kool ;-)! Greets Gerhard - Me, Ambivalent? Well, yes and no. - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I propose this alternative: http://www.krysalis.org/jon/ ;-) -Andy On Sat, 2002-05-04 at 08:51, Pier Fumagalli wrote: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon.html Jon, where the HECK did you get that picture from? I'm going to spread it to a huge chunk of common friends pretty soon :) BTW, the content of that page, is right... I mean, I've been around since more or less Jon has (probably couple of months less? Jon, whaddayasay), and this comes on and on and on every two months? How come that, after having written the first alpha of cocoon (XSLT XSLT and more XSLT, including the first version of XML.APACHE.ORG, Stylebook, contributed to Xerces and Xalan...) , after working 8 hours a day, 5 days a week on JSPs (look http://www.vnunet.com/ it's all JSP based), and basically saying every now and then that IMO turbine, velocity, and all stuff is just a huge pile o' crap, I almost never get flamed and Jon is one of my best friends? You kids are flame-war amateurs :) Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - port of Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document format to java http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4487555.html - fix java generics! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maven is growing
On 5/4/02 8:51 AM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon.html Jon, where the HECK did you get that picture from? I'm going to spread it to a huge chunk of common friends pretty soon :) There is a better one out there, which I think captures a different essence of Jon very well. I'll dig it up and add it to the page. -- Geir Magnusson Jr. Research Development, Adeptra Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-203-247-1713 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maven is growing
On 5/4/02 10:45 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose this alternative: http://www.krysalis.org/jon/ ;-) Yep - that is the one I was going to find. I think it's right up there with the other one to help people come to terms with Jon... -Andy On Sat, 2002-05-04 at 08:51, Pier Fumagalli wrote: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon.html Jon, where the HECK did you get that picture from? I'm going to spread it to a huge chunk of common friends pretty soon :) BTW, the content of that page, is right... I mean, I've been around since more or less Jon has (probably couple of months less? Jon, whaddayasay), and this comes on and on and on every two months? How come that, after having written the first alpha of cocoon (XSLT XSLT and more XSLT, including the first version of XML.APACHE.ORG, Stylebook, contributed to Xerces and Xalan...) , after working 8 hours a day, 5 days a week on JSPs (look http://www.vnunet.com/ it's all JSP based), and basically saying every now and then that IMO turbine, velocity, and all stuff is just a huge pile o' crap, I almost never get flamed and Jon is one of my best friends? You kids are flame-war amateurs :) Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr. Research Development, Adeptra Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-203-247-1713 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Maven is growing
It is as stupid to go after Jon like a mad dog as it is stupid to say Amen to everything he says and the way he says it. There must be a balance somewhere. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:08 PM On 5/4/02 10:45 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose this alternative: http://www.krysalis.org/jon/ ;-) Yep - that is the one I was going to find. I think it's right up there with the other one to help people come to terms with Jon... ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 5/4/02 1:08 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is as stupid to go after Jon like a mad dog as it is stupid to say Amen to everything he says and the way he says it. There must be a balance somewhere. And there is. Find it. geir Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:08 PM On 5/4/02 10:45 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose this alternative: http://www.krysalis.org/jon/ ;-) Yep - that is the one I was going to find. I think it's right up there with the other one to help people come to terms with Jon... ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr. Research Development, Adeptra Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-203-247-1713 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ehh, just don't take it seriously when you go after him like a mad dog. I find myself balancing between saying amen to everything he says and going after him like a mad dog. Perhaps I over did it this time...oh well. always have a real angle... collaboration and integration rulez: http://www.krysalis.org/alt/cents/index.html ^ created by the maven module (aka cent) for centipede. you gotta love that. I'll be joining the maven list for a short while to get a few bugs in maven fixed (absolute links being interpreted as relative). isn't that delicious? -Andy PS Centipede docs are well on there way to being up to snuff. On Sat, 2002-05-04 at 13:08, Paulo Gaspar wrote: It is as stupid to go after Jon like a mad dog as it is stupid to say Amen to everything he says and the way he says it. There must be a balance somewhere. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:08 PM On 5/4/02 10:45 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose this alternative: http://www.krysalis.org/jon/ ;-) Yep - that is the one I was going to find. I think it's right up there with the other one to help people come to terms with Jon... ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - port of Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document format to java http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4487555.html - fix java generics! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Maven is growing
Andy, I generally agree with what says in the page you pointed to. When I disagree with what Jon says I push back and when I agree I am not afraid of saying so. If you read my recent postings here you will notice I generally agree with Jon about the Velocity vs. XSLT issue. OTOH I tend to disagree on stopping some project because there is already a similar one. And now we both think Maven is a good thing, although similar projects already existed. I don't feel I go after Jon like a mad dog. I just feel that I am not afraid of disagreeing with him. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -Original Message- From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 7:31 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: RE: Maven is growing Ehh, just don't take it seriously when you go after him like a mad dog. I find myself balancing between saying amen to everything he says and going after him like a mad dog. Perhaps I over did it this time...oh well. always have a real angle... collaboration and integration rulez: http://www.krysalis.org/alt/cents/index.html ^ created by the maven module (aka cent) for centipede. you gotta love that. I'll be joining the maven list for a short while to get a few bugs in maven fixed (absolute links being interpreted as relative). isn't that delicious? -Andy PS Centipede docs are well on there way to being up to snuff. On Sat, 2002-05-04 at 13:08, Paulo Gaspar wrote: It is as stupid to go after Jon like a mad dog as it is stupid to say Amen to everything he says and the way he says it. There must be a balance somewhere. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:08 PM On 5/4/02 10:45 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose this alternative: http://www.krysalis.org/jon/ ;-) Yep - that is the one I was going to find. I think it's right up there with the other one to help people come to terms with Jon... ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - port of Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document format to java http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4487555.html - fix java generics! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Maven is growing
And there is. Find it. geir Maybe I did. But it is NOT your balance - it is mine. Have fun, Paulo -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 7:28 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Maven is growing On 5/4/02 1:08 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is as stupid to go after Jon like a mad dog as it is stupid to say Amen to everything he says and the way he says it. There must be a balance somewhere. And there is. Find it. geir Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:08 PM On 5/4/02 10:45 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose this alternative: http://www.krysalis.org/jon/ ;-) Yep - that is the one I was going to find. I think it's right up there with the other one to help people come to terms with Jon... ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, Jon, how does it feel to be a philosophy in a human form? Must be pretty kool, uh? ;-) Have nice a weekend. BTW: ...28?C in Vienna and sunny. Yeah...Time to go out and spend the evening with friends... Greets Gerhard Horngren's Observation (generalized): The real world is a special case. -Original Message- From: Paulo Gaspar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 8:03 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: RE: Maven is growing And there is. Find it. geir Maybe I did. But it is NOT your balance - it is mine. Have fun, Paulo -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 7:28 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Maven is growing On 5/4/02 1:08 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is as stupid to go after Jon like a mad dog as it is stupid to say Amen to everything he says and the way he says it. There must be a balance somewhere. And there is. Find it. geir Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:08 PM On 5/4/02 10:45 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose this alternative: http://www.krysalis.org/jon/ ;-) Yep - that is the one I was going to find. I think it's right up there with the other one to help people come to terms with Jon... ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 5/4/02 2:03 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And there is. Find it. geir Maybe I did. But it is NOT your balance - it is mine. We each do things our own way. Maybe we can put this thread to bed? geir Have fun, Paulo -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 7:28 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Maven is growing On 5/4/02 1:08 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is as stupid to go after Jon like a mad dog as it is stupid to say Amen to everything he says and the way he says it. There must be a balance somewhere. And there is. Find it. geir Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:08 PM On 5/4/02 10:45 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose this alternative: http://www.krysalis.org/jon/ ;-) Yep - that is the one I was going to find. I think it's right up there with the other one to help people come to terms with Jon... ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr. Research Development, Adeptra Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-203-247-1713 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Maven is growing
Ok. I am glad you understood it, Paulo -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 8:40 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Maven is growing On 5/4/02 2:03 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And there is. Find it. geir Maybe I did. But it is NOT your balance - it is mine. We each do things our own way. Maybe we can put this thread to bed? geir Have fun, Paulo -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 7:28 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Maven is growing On 5/4/02 1:08 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is as stupid to go after Jon like a mad dog as it is stupid to say Amen to everything he says and the way he says it. There must be a balance somewhere. And there is. Find it. geir Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:08 PM On 5/4/02 10:45 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose this alternative: http://www.krysalis.org/jon/ ;-) Yep - that is the one I was going to find. I think it's right up there with the other one to help people come to terms with Jon... ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr. Research Development, Adeptra Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-203-247-1713 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maven is growing
aww but I was hoping everyone would go look at the integrated Maven cent first. ;-) Oh well maybe Jon will go criticize it on monday and then everyone will look at it too ;-) On Sat, 2002-05-04 at 14:39, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On 5/4/02 2:03 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And there is. Find it. geir Maybe I did. But it is NOT your balance - it is mine. We each do things our own way. Maybe we can put this thread to bed? geir Have fun, Paulo -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 7:28 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Maven is growing On 5/4/02 1:08 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is as stupid to go after Jon like a mad dog as it is stupid to say Amen to everything he says and the way he says it. There must be a balance somewhere. And there is. Find it. geir Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:08 PM On 5/4/02 10:45 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose this alternative: http://www.krysalis.org/jon/ ;-) Yep - that is the one I was going to find. I think it's right up there with the other one to help people come to terms with Jon... ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr. Research Development, Adeptra Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-203-247-1713 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - port of Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document format to java http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4487555.html - fix java generics! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=36516 Jon Scott Stevens wrote: Nice to see people who are upset about Maven actually recognizing that it is pretty cool and can be made better (have to start somewhere, right?). Berin posted this: Despite my comments on General@, I really like what maven offers. There are some things that I would like to have in Maven or Centipede, so I guess the best thing is to lend a hand. I have limited time, so I will start with participating on the dev list. If I can manage code patches I will send them here. Sam is also on the list and participating. :-) Ecce (Said in the voice of Mr. Burns from the Simpsons) :-) Come join the madness. Let's get all of our projects running under Maven...just like we originally got all of our projects running under Ant (I was one of the first people who created a build.xml when Ant was released as OSS). Let's get a world where all I have to do is type 'ant' to build *every* project and not have to worry about finding/building/installing dependencies. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jon Scott Stevens wrote: Nice to see people who are upset about Maven actually recognizing that it is pretty cool and can be made better (have to start somewhere, right?). Berin posted this: Despite my comments on General@, I really like what maven offers. There are some things that I would like to have in Maven or Centipede, so I guess the best thing is to lend a hand. I have limited time, so I will start with participating on the dev list. If I can manage code patches I will send them here. Sam is also on the list and participating. :-) Remember, I participate as long as I feel welcome. If I don't feel welcome, I move one. Both projects have alot to offer. Are you on the Centipede list? You might find something to learn there as well. -- They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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on 5/3/02 10:19 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=36516 50 cvs actions over the life of the project? OooAhh -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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page views dude, just my way of thanking you for publicity. project just switched repositories. Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 5/3/02 10:19 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=36516 50 cvs actions over the life of the project? OooAhh -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 5/3/02 10:19 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=36516 50 cvs actions over the life of the project? OooAhh And who is the hypocrite this time? From a previous post of yours (copy and pasted): I listen to the following: Code. Patches. Real suggestions for improvement. Intelligent discussion. I don't listen to the following: Flame wars about technologies used. Whiny people who can't learn a new technology. Whiny people who only use 'standards'. People who are clearly without a clue. Hypocrites. So you can't stand to learn a new technology, huh? You can't be bothered to try to improve things, huh? I think this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Careful what you say, it will bite you later. -- They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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on 5/3/02 10:37 AM, Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 5/3/02 10:19 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=36516 50 cvs actions over the life of the project? OooAhh And who is the hypocrite this time? From a previous post of yours (copy and pasted): I listen to the following: Code. Patches. ?. I think I made myself pretty clear. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 5/3/02 10:37 AM, Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 5/3/02 10:19 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=36516 50 cvs actions over the life of the project? OooAhh And who is the hypocrite this time? From a previous post of yours (copy and pasted): I listen to the following: Code. Patches. ?. I think I made myself pretty clear. I see, shorten your list, ignore your negatives--just so you can escape your own double-talk. I see how you play the game :) Seriously Jon, I put my money where my mouth is. YOu can ask anyone that knows me. -- They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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on 5/3/02 10:37 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: page views dude, just my way of thanking you for publicity. project just switched repositories. O...page views dude?...you didn't say that... well, just yesterday we had: [daedalus] 10:56am ~ grep -c /maven/ 02 7546 Looks like the *entire* life of your project has been around 9500... OhhA -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You know how many views /. gets? Microsoft.com? This is getting _really_ silly. LOL On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 20:00, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 5/3/02 10:37 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: page views dude, just my way of thanking you for publicity. project just switched repositories. O...page views dude?...you didn't say that... well, just yesterday we had: [daedalus] 10:56am ~ grep -c /maven/ 02 7546 Looks like the *entire* life of your project has been around 9500... OhhA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, 3 May 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: well, just yesterday we had: [daedalus] 10:56am ~ grep -c /maven/ 02 7546 Looks like the *entire* life of your project has been around 9500... OhhA My english vocabulary is too limited to express what I feel reading this... Maybe ashamed to be in the same 'community' with this kind of person. Costin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Maven is growing
agreed. the swearing (http://www.mail-archive.com/general@jakarta.apache.org/msg05130.html), self-congratulating web page (http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon.html), and general attitude is disheartening. most of us don't need others to step in and defend our 'nice-guy' status. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 1:18 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Maven is growing On Fri, 3 May 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: well, just yesterday we had: [daedalus] 10:56am ~ grep -c /maven/ 02 7546 Looks like the *entire* life of your project has been around 9500... OhhA My english vocabulary is too limited to express what I feel reading this... Maybe ashamed to be in the same 'community' with this kind of person. Costin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Maven is growing
C'mon guys personal attacks aren't worth our time. Communities have a diverse range of people. -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Work: http://www.multitask.com.au Developers: http://adslgateway.multitask.com.au/developers Sale, Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/04/02 05:12 AM Please respond to Jakarta General List To: 'Jakarta General List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Maven is growing agreed. the swearing (http://www.mail-archive.com/general@jakarta.apache.org/msg05130.html), self-congratulating web page (http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon.html), and general attitude is disheartening. most of us don't need others to step in and defend our 'nice-guy' status. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 1:18 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Maven is growing On Fri, 3 May 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: well, just yesterday we had: [daedalus] 10:56am ~ grep -c /maven/ 02 7546 Looks like the *entire* life of your project has been around 9500... OhhA My english vocabulary is too limited to express what I feel reading this... Maybe ashamed to be in the same 'community' with this kind of person. Costin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
