jakarta future WAS: Re: Starting a java specs project (fwd)

2005-12-27 Thread Phil Steitz
Henri Yandell wrote: snip/ It would be great if we could get a consensus on what an umbrella is and An umbrella is a joining of disjoint communities under a common TLP. A non-umbrella is one in which the whole project is a part of the same community. Nice definition. Thanks. snip/

Re: jakarta future WAS: Re: Starting a java specs project (fwd)

2005-12-27 Thread Brett Porter
Hi Phil, On 12/28/05, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again. So the real problem is disjointness. It seems then that we have three logical alternatives: I don't think there is a lot of difference any of these. Jakarta commons as a TLP is basically (1) as well. There are

Re: jakarta future WAS: Re: Starting a java specs project (fwd)

2005-12-27 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, Phil Steitz wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: The biggest problem with Jakarta currently is that we've become increasingly disjoint. In many ways we are less healthy than we were 4 years ago. We have less projects, but much less in the way of intersection between

Re: jakarta future WAS: Re: Starting a java specs project (fwd)

2005-12-27 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005, Brett Porter wrote: Thinking more about this, I don't know about pushing things into commons. The important thing is consistent practices, consolidated committers and community, but maybe not the naming. Jakarta BCEL sounds fine to stay that way, as does Jakarta Commons