Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-11 Thread Curtis Napier
Sven Vermeulen wrote: Lance Albertson said: I can probably setup toucan to use gorg in some fashion if I had a few folks to test it with. I'm sure that would make things easier for a lot of people for rendering things. Since documentation posted on dev.gentoo.org isn't Gentoo's by default, i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Parallizing ebuilds - 'trivial' ebuilds

2006-01-11 Thread Lisa Seelye
On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 00:18 +, Ferris McCormick wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Lisa Seelye wrote: > > > On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 14:51 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > >> I've been cleaning up media-fonts/ to work with modular-X, and I see a > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Parallizing ebuilds - 'trivial' ebuilds

2006-01-11 Thread Ferris McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Lisa Seelye wrote: On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 14:51 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: I've been cleaning up media-fonts/ to work with modular-X, and I see a lot of ebuilds with stuff like this: for font in *.bdf; do /usr/X1

Re: [gentoo-dev] Parallizing ebuilds - 'trivial' ebuilds

2006-01-11 Thread Lisa Seelye
On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 14:51 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > I've been cleaning up media-fonts/ to work with modular-X, and I see a > lot of ebuilds with stuff like this: > for font in *.bdf; do > /usr/X11R6/bin/bdftopcf ${font} > `basename $font .bdf`.pcf > done

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is the autotools mess solvable?

2006-01-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 11 January 2006 16:47, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > While it would be interesting to get rid of some versions of autotools from > portage no it wouldnt once version in each SLOT will remain around ad infintum as far as i'm concerned it's not like it's a media video package (a

[gentoo-dev] Parallizing ebuilds - 'trivial' ebuilds

2006-01-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
I've been cleaning up media-fonts/ to work with modular-X, and I see a lot of ebuilds with stuff like this: for font in *.bdf; do /usr/X11R6/bin/bdftopcf ${font} > `basename $font .bdf`.pcf done gzip *.pcf For having 100 files in *bdf, this is so

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuilds creating mountpoints

2006-01-11 Thread Aron Griffis
Donnie Berkholz wrote: [Sat Jan 07 2006, 06:20:48PM EST] > That's actually not the case; I've never gotten around to filing a bug > for it, but I mount my /media read-only (so I don't accidentally delete > all my music) and pmount dies every time. AFAIK, the original bug pertaining to this issue

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is the autotools mess solvable?

2006-01-11 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 11 January 2006 23:03, Stefan Schweizer wrote: > And I do not see a problem with omitting autotools deps, because > autotools is in system. Autotools shouldn't actually be in system as they are only DEPEND, so it's anyway an improvement if we can get it out of it. And anyway by makin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is the autotools mess solvable?

2006-01-11 Thread Stefan Schweizer
On 1/11/06, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's a compromise, we trade perfectly stated deps for a lot of easyness for > devs.. It's not a perfect world, you all know. We do not have perfect depends in portage For example we are missing out all deps in "system" usually. An

[gentoo-dev] Is the autotools mess solvable?

2006-01-11 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
I'm actually wondering this. Most of the tree requires autotools being installed, there's no way round this, as they change configure.ac and Makefile.am to fix bugs and similar. Currently we're supposed to check which versions of tools are being ran and then add the approriate deps to the packag

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC --- Thoughts on devrel bug content

2006-01-11 Thread Duncan
Ferris McCormick posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:04:19 +: > B."Jurisdiction" --- why this is something for devrel to consider (policy > violation or whatever). This is a categorization of the report, not an > argument why it is valid. (This could be h

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Gentoo "Stable" Portage/Releases

2006-01-11 Thread Duncan
Chris Gianelloni posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:38:30 -0500: > Again, please don't consider my tree proposal as anything "enterprise", at > all. While it can be used as a *basis* for enterprise work, it does not > need to be relegated to any specific usage.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo "Stable" Portage/Releases

2006-01-11 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 10:38:30AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 00:03 -0700, Duncan wrote: > > Remember, portage already has a decent amount of signed content > > verification builtin, and is getting more. Just because it's not > > currently used, as the debate on stren

[gentoo-dev] RFC --- Thoughts on devrel bug content

2006-01-11 Thread Ferris McCormick
The attached note in form of RFC contains some thoughts on how to make a devrel bug reporting inappropriate behavior more effective. The original has been reviewed by the people most immediately involved in processing such bugs (devrel, qa, ombudsman), and the attached version incorporates improve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Linux 2.6.15 to go stable in a week

2006-01-11 Thread Daniel Drake
Daniel Drake wrote: This is mainly a heads-up so that people maintaining external module packages can fix any incompatibilities. I don't know of any specific problems that you will run into, but there will probably be some. If there are already bugs filed for issues like this, please make them

[gentoo-dev] Linux 2.6.15 to go stable in a week

2006-01-11 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, 2006.0 is planned to be based on 2.6.15, and we need to mark this stable for release building. Also, the number of 2.6.15-specific bugs reported since its release is very small and will all be fixed in the next revision release (within a day or so from now). This is mainly a heads-up so

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo "Stable" Portage/Releases

2006-01-11 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 00:03 -0700, Duncan wrote: > Remember, portage already has a decent amount of signed content > verification builtin, and is getting more. Just because it's not > currently used, as the debate on strength and keyring handling hasn't been > settled, doesn't mean the capacity

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo "Stable" Portage/Releases

2006-01-11 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 23:57 -0500, Andrew Muraco wrote: > What I meant to say is, having this alternative tree method (as > described here) would mean that portage would handle everything the > exact same as it already does, which means that if someother tree was > accidently sync'd or replaced

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-11 Thread Sven Vermeulen
Lance Albertson said: > I can probably setup toucan to use gorg in some fashion if I had a few > folks to test it with. I'm sure that would make things easier for a lot > of people for rendering things. Since documentation posted on dev.gentoo.org isn't Gentoo's by default, it might not be a good