Re: [gentoo-dev] seamonkey - nss vs nspr

2006-07-27 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:04:11 +0200 Martin Schlemmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyhow, that is the whole issue with mozilla stuff in general - huge hunk of code that is not really modular, and have to be rebuild for a few to many projects. While I am all for getting the POS more modular (which

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords - how can we help?

2006-07-27 Thread Duncan
Chris Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:00:39 +0100: The testing is supposed to be for the ebuild, not the package itself, so there's not much point in holding back packages with simple ebuilds from being stabilised. While ~arch is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-27 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 18:28 +0200, Alexandre Buisse wrote: On Wed, Jul 5, 2006 at 18:20:08 +0200, Patrick McLean wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I would like to nominate: vapier/SpanKY flameeyes Kugelfang uberlord wolf31o2 seemant solar Mr_Bones_

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords - how can we help?

2006-07-27 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 10:00 +0100, Chris Bainbridge wrote: I would also like to see that (though maybe with some automated feedback from users systems as to which packages are installed / how often they are run). All that the current process ensures is that: Any automated system will cause

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords - how can we help?

2006-07-27 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 10:34 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote: Maybe this semi-automatic stabilisation by default could be adopted by the tree cleaners project? I propose that we remove the name project from any team that really consists of only one or two people. I think part of the problem is that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords - how can we help?

2006-07-27 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 12:19 +, Duncan wrote: Chris Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:00:39 +0100: The testing is supposed to be for the ebuild, not the package itself, so there's not much point in holding back packages with

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: sys-apps/hwdata

2006-07-27 Thread Chris Gianelloni
The sys-apps/hwdata package isn't marked stable on any architecture. It is the upstream Red Hat version of the package, and was the last version that would work successfully with hwsetup as we use on the releases. Since this won't be getting any updates from upstream (as they've moved onto an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords - how can we help?

2006-07-27 Thread Steve Dibb
Chris Gianelloni wrote: I'd say no bugs, 30 days, passes internal tests, being run by users = stablise, for the majority of packages (obviously, there may be some exceptions...). Luckily, you're not making the call. ;] The majority of packages are also the ones that need more extensive

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords - how can we help?

2006-07-27 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: snip 1) thousands of packages will never be marked stable Honestly, they shouldn't be stable. hmm, maybe we should have different groups of ports (*1) for a) quite stable: no bugs yet and enough votes) b) *proven* to be stable: has passed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords - how can we help?

2006-07-27 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Steve Dibb [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: snip That's actually how I read the first email, was that it's really the majority of the _minor_ packages that get completely neglected, and just sits in the tree for months or years marked unstable because nobody cares. then the users probably

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords - how can we help?

2006-07-27 Thread Duncan
Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:25:52 -0400: Since the introduction of the x86 architecture team, we have had a significant slowdown in the stabilization of packages in the tree. However, we have also gotten numerous emails

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords - how can we help?

2006-07-27 Thread Richard Fish
On 7/27/06, Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, they shouldn't be stable. In fact, likely, many shouldn't be in the tree. We have way too many packages that are used solely by a small group of people sitting around the tree. These would be better served in official overlays,

[gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed

2006-07-27 Thread Stefan Schweizer
To my fellow Gentoo developers and users, Sunrise is about contributing ebuilds and getting feedback and review while doing so. The main resource this currently happens for is the Gentoo User Overlay of Sunrise and second come ebuilds that get into portage afterwards In last weeks council

[gentoo-dev] Proposed eclasses: vmware and vmware-mod

2006-07-27 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everybody, The Gentoo vmware team have been developing new ebuilds for vmware-workstation, vmware-player and vmware-server (and vmware-server-console), to help ease the maintenance of the shared modules and shared patches between these products.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed

2006-07-27 Thread Stephen P. Becker
Stefan Schweizer wrote: In last weeks council meeting [1] it was decided that the Sunrise project is no longer suspended. I can give a short overview of the current status of the overlay: - we currently have 154 ebuilds in 58 categories in the overlay not counting the ebuilds that got into

[gentoo-dev] Re: Project Sunrise resumed

2006-07-27 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Stephen P. Becker wrote: Eso since when did we have the discussion where you actually addressed all of the numerous concerns brought forth right before this project was initially suspended? Do you have any concrete concerns that have not been dealt with yet? I would like to hear about

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed)

2006-07-27 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
To my former fellow Gentoo developers and users, On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 11:58:09PM +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: To my fellow Gentoo developers and users, In last weeks council meeting [1] it was decided that the Sunrise project is no longer suspended. I can give a short overview of the

[gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-27 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello everyone, Here, with this email, i propose (after a brief discussion on irc with gensteaf)an alternative or at least a new model to address a few issues with our maintainers needs and the inclusion of new packages into the tree. Probably an

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-27 Thread Thomas Cort
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:19:14 -0400 Luis Francisco Araujo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The users explicitly compromise to (just to make it clear): [1,2,3,4] People who participate in open projects like Gentoo come and go. What happens if/when the proxy maintainer decides to leave? Who will take care