# Alin Năstac [EMAIL PROTECTED] (19 Jul 2007)
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On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 01:53 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote:
Does this mean that any user-set -march flag is overridden for these
cases? Just curious.
Thanks for the explanations given, Mike, Ioannis, Ryan, and Andre! I'm
much clearer on the isue now. :]
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Glad to see you back :)
El jue, 19-07-2007 a las 00:22 +0300, Petteri Räty escribió:
Your doc zombie Sven Vermeulen has risen from his grave and is back to
beat www.gentoo.org/doc/en with his fingers. Give him the usual welcome
with nice head shots.
Regards,
Petteri
PS. I tried but
Eric Polino wrote:
Would it be possible to have all the protocols for net-im/pidgin
turned on by default. We often get people coming to #pidgin looking
for help as to why they can't get MSN or some other protocol working.
It most often is because they haven't enabled the given protocol USE
Welcome back Sven!!! Nice to have you with us once again :)
On 7/19/07, josé Alberto Suárez López [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Glad to see you back :)
El jue, 19-07-2007 a las 00:22 +0300, Petteri Räty escribió:
Your doc zombie Sven Vermeulen has risen from his grave and is back to
beat
Luca Barbato kirjoitti:
Eric Polino wrote:
Would it be possible to have all the protocols for net-im/pidgin
turned on by default. We often get people coming to #pidgin looking
for help as to why they can't get MSN or some other protocol working.
It most often is because they haven't enabled
Petteri Räty napsal(a):
Or just do it via package.use in profiles until IUSE defaults are
implemented.
Regards,
Petteri
As noted before, they are implemented, just not allowed in the tree.
Plus, what vapier said, this info belongs to the ebuilds, not to profiles.
Wrt pidgin - seriously,
Jakub Moc kirjoitti:
Petteri Räty napsal(a):
Or just do it via package.use in profiles until IUSE defaults are
implemented.
Regards,
Petteri
As noted before, they are implemented, just not allowed in the tree.
Plus, what vapier said, this info belongs to the ebuilds, not to profiles.
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:19:11 +0200
Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As noted before, they are implemented, just not allowed in the tree.
Plus, what vapier said, this info belongs to the ebuilds, not to
profiles.
What, it belongs in multiple ebuild files, rather than a single profile
file?
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:19:11 +0200
Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As noted before, they are implemented, just not allowed in the tree.
Plus, what vapier said, this info belongs to the ebuilds, not to
profiles.
What, it belongs in multiple ebuild files, rather
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Jakub Moc wrote:
Petteri Räty napsal(a):
Or just do it via package.use in profiles until IUSE defaults are
implemented.
Regards,
Petteri
As noted before, they are implemented, just not allowed in the tree.
Plus, what vapier said, this info
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joshua jackson wrote:
Jakub Moc wrote:
Petteri Rýty napsal(a):
Or just do it via package.use in profiles until IUSE defaults are
implemented.
Regards,
Petteri
As noted before, they are implemented, just not allowed in the tree.
Plus, what
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 12:19 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote:
Petteri Räty napsal(a):
Or just do it via package.use in profiles until IUSE defaults are
implemented.
Regards,
Petteri
As noted before, they are implemented, just not allowed in the tree.
Plus, what vapier said, this info belongs
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2007-07-19 18:52:59 Chris Gianelloni napisał(a):
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 12:19 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote:
Petteri Räty napsal(a):
Or just do it via package.use in profiles until IUSE defaults are
implemented.
Regards,
Petteri
As noted
On 19/07/07, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunately, that is the state we're currently in with regards to our
profiles and the tree. I know I would *love* to see us start using IUSE
defaults as soon as possible in the tree.
So just start using IUSE
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:08:20 +0200
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So just start using IUSE defaults! There's no problem with doing it
at once since it can be considered as a part of EAPI=0.
No, IUSE defaults are EAPI 1.
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Steve Long wrote:
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote:
Perhaps we also need to make it more clear where users can ask such
Gentoo-specific questions about specific packages, so they don't need to
go and annoy upstream. Associate an irc-channel with each package. Most
packages have a herd associated
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:02:46 +0100
George Prowse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you want to know how to get a better relationship with users...
ask them!
Any user who will see and respond to a question is unrepresentative
of the user base in general.
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:36:34 +0100
Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote:
Perhaps we also need to make it more clear where users can ask such
Gentoo-specific questions about specific packages, so they don't
need to go and annoy upstream.
In #gentoo we
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:02:46 +0100
George Prowse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you want to know how to get a better relationship with users...
ask them!
Any user who will see and respond to a question is unrepresentative
of the user base in general.
that is why the
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 15:45 -0500, Dale wrote:
I just decided to grow a pair today and speak up.
That right there is the most important thing you could have done. I hope
more users and devs decide to speak up about things.
Thanks,
Seemant
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:45:46 -0500
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Any user who will see and respond to a question is unrepresentative
of the user base in general.
So if ten users reply then, are all ten individually wrong too?
Not my point. My point is that most
On Thursday, 19. July 2007 22:39, Jeroen Roovers wrote:
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote:
Associate an irc-channel with each package.
Associate how? Sounds like a lot of work at the least and a lot of
cruft at the worst.
It could be included in the herds.xml:
herd
namekde/name
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 21:59 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
The set of people who respond is
heavily skewed towards better-informed users who have time to seek out
and participate in that kind of questioning.
Fair point, but the more better-informed users we have, the better it is
for everyone
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:45:46 -0500
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Any user who will see and respond to a question is unrepresentative
of the user base in general.
So if ten users reply then, are all ten individually wrong too?
Not my point. My
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:22:19 +0100
George Prowse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not my point. My point is that most Gentoo users would either not
see the question or not respond. Those that both see the question
and take time to respond are highly atypical.
If you were clever enough and wanted
Alright, well I appreciate all the thought and discussion that
exploded about this problem. The pidgin team appreciates it. Though
I'm sorry to say I'm not up to speed with all this Gentoo talk. I
gather that when IUSE defaults come out, the ability to specify
default USE flags on a per
On 7/19/07, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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joshua jackson wrote:
Jakub Moc wrote:
Petteri Rýty napsal(a):
Or just do it via package.use in profiles until IUSE defaults are
implemented.
Regards,
Petteri
As noted before, they
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George Prowse wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:45:46 -0500
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Any user who will see and respond to a question is unrepresentative
of the user base in general.
So if ten users reply then, are all ten individually wrong
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:22:19 +0100
George Prowse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not my point. My point is that most Gentoo users would either not
see the question or not respond. Those that both see the question
and take time to respond are highly atypical.
If you were clever
[snip]
get this shit off the dev list and somewhere more appropriate.
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Mike Doty wrote:
[snip]
get this shit off the dev list and somewhere more appropriate.
I have a question for in here. Now this is (rightly) going to -project,
are any devs actually going to comment on the discussion?
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On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 16:51 -0500, Dale wrote:
Now the new deal is meeting the same resistance just like the proctors
and I suspect it will fail too. Gentoo needs to listen to the people.
No.
Gentoo needs to make intelligent decisions, whether it comes from a
single individual or an army
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 16:02 -0600, Jim Ramsay wrote:
I'm all for doing it now in the profile, but it's not my package.
Perhaps someone from the net-im herd can make this decision?
Well, as someone who spends a lot of time working on/with profiles, I
say go for it. Since these changes would
Eric Polino wrote:
Not sure if this fits in to what you're talking about, but I do know
that as myself a would like to me maintainer someday, I'm somewhat
lost as to knowing how I can get involved and who I need to talk to.
Your best starting point is #gentoo-dev-help (if you need to talk a
On Tuesday 17 July 2007, Mike Frysinger wrote:
i dont think he'll accept, but i dont see Flameeyes name yet ...
his ISP decided to poop on him for a while, so he contacted me off list to say
he accepts
-mike
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On Thu, 2007-19-07 at 15:22 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 16:02 -0600, Jim Ramsay wrote:
I'm all for doing it now in the profile, but it's not my package.
Perhaps someone from the net-im herd can make this decision?
Well, as someone who spends a lot of time working
joshua jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:10:35 -0700:
Honestly..this is not something to get picky over jakub. Upstream was
nice and actually came and politely asked us to change the defaults to
what most people would consider sane
On 7/19/07, Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
joshua jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:10:35 -0700:
Honestly..this is not something to get picky over jakub. Upstream was
nice and actually came and politely asked us to change the
Robin H. Johnson wrote:
gentoo-project
gentoo-dev-announce
These are on gmane now as well. -dev-announce as RO and -project as RW.
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gentoo org it could suck an ancient virus from the sea
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Ryan Hill wrote:
These are on gmane now as well. -dev-announce as RO and -project as RW.
I'm sure everyone is busy and this is already in the works, but updating the
list page [1] would be helpful as well -- along with any other documentation
that might be appropriate.
Is there a concise
On Thursday 19 July 2007, Duncan wrote:
OTOH, if enabling those protocols pulls in all sorts of additional
packages to support them, shipping with everything on just because it's
possible is not the Gentoo way. That's what USE flags are for.
USE flags are not for controlling dependencies,
Eric Polino [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
below, on Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:52:16 -0400:
OTOH, if enabling those protocols pulls in all sorts of additional
packages to support them, shipping with everything on just because it's
possible is not the Gentoo way. That's what
Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:11:38 -0600:
Robin H. Johnson wrote:
gentoo-project
gentoo-dev-announce
These are on gmane now as well. -dev-announce as RO and -project as RW.
Thanks. I checked earlier and didn't see them.
On 7/19/07, Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Eric Polino [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
below, on Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:52:16 -0400:
OTOH, if enabling those protocols pulls in all sorts of additional
packages to support them, shipping with everything on just because it's
Eric Polino [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
below, on Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:02:56 -0400:
On 7/19/07, Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Eric Polino [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
below, on Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:52:16 -0400:
Yes there would be a few
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 09:15:31PM -0500, lnxg33k wrote:
Ryan Hill wrote:
These are on gmane now as well. -dev-announce as RO and -project as RW.
I'm sure everyone is busy and this is already in the works, but updating the
list page [1] would be helpful as well -- along with any other
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