Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.31 stable plans

2009-11-04 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Mike Pagano wrote: > I'm planning to request the stabling of gentoo-sources-2.6.31 on November > 13th, a little more than 1 week from now. We have a few regressions we are > tracking but they are not far reaching and most are close to resolution. We > will follow up

[gentoo-dev] Lastrite: gnome-extra/hardware-monitor

2009-11-04 Thread Romain Perier
This package has a lot of issues, random segfaults (reproducible or not), Corba exceptions... devs not really active on upstream, and we're not interested to being maintainer (if you want a soft for monitoring your hardware use gnome-system-monitor) Pending for removal until 4 Dec. 2009. Regards,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite (part 1): KDE3-only applications that won't build when KDE4 is installed

2009-11-04 Thread Dale
Pacho Ramos wrote: > El mié, 04-11-2009 a las 15:48 -0600, Dale escribió: > >> Ben de Groot wrote: >> >>> 2009/11/4 Dale : >>> >>> Is it possible to just mask and maybe keyword KDE 3? >>> This has already been decided. We are moving it to an overlay. >

[gentoo-dev] 2.6.31 stable plans

2009-11-04 Thread Mike Pagano
I'm planning to request the stabling of gentoo-sources-2.6.31 on November 13th, a little more than 1 week from now. We have a few regressions we are tracking but they are not far reaching and most are close to resolution. We will follow up on all unresolved regressions. Regressions in external

[gentoo-dev] Re: FEATURES use or misuse?

2009-11-04 Thread Peter Hjalmarsson
tis 2009-11-03 klockan 16:48 +0100 skrev Patrick Lauer: > Hi there, > > All of these bugs were for the use of the FEATURES variable in ebuilds, which > is a very convenient thing to work around issues. > For example known failures with FEATURE="distcc" or funky things like test > failures with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite (part 1): KDE3-only applications that won't build when KDE4 is installed

2009-11-04 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 04-11-2009 a las 15:48 -0600, Dale escribió: > Ben de Groot wrote: > > 2009/11/4 Dale : > > > >> Is it possible to just mask and maybe keyword KDE 3? > >> > > > > This has already been decided. We are moving it to an overlay. > > I can't think of a valid reason why you would not use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite (part 1): KDE3-only applications that won't build when KDE4 is installed

2009-11-04 Thread Dale
Ben de Groot wrote: > 2009/11/4 Dale : > >> Is it possible to just mask and maybe keyword KDE 3? >> > > This has already been decided. We are moving it to an overlay. > I can't think of a valid reason why you would not use that overlay. > Because I don't want one more thing to have to d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-04 Thread Joseph Jezak
Ben de Groot wrote: > What about ppc64? They are MONTHS behind on stabilization, > even for security bugs (see bug 281821 for example). The Qt team > feels this is no longer acceptable. We propose that any arch that > can't keep up will be demoted to experimental status. > > ppc is also fairly f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-04 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Tobias Klausmann wrote: > [0] Yes, armin76 helps, but he does so for many arches (and > around of applause for that), but the majority of bugs for alpha > are on my plate. > +++, armin76 does an awesome job of keywording/stabilizing. I really love how he comes dow

Re: [gentoo-dev] client/server consistency: USE flags / split packages

2009-11-04 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 04/11/2009 в 17:34 +0100, Tiziano Müller пишет: > Am Mittwoch, den 04.11.2009, 18:44 +0300 schrieb Peter Volkov: > > So are there any good reasons to split packages? > > In environments with a staging server and binary packages, yes. Currently you either have to script your staging server

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-04 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Wed, 04 Nov 2009, Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Ben de Groot : > > What about ppc64? They are MONTHS behind on stabilization, > > even for security bugs (see bug 281821 for example). The Qt team > > feels this is no longer acceptable. We propose that any arch that > > can't keep up will be

Re: [gentoo-dev] client/server consistency: USE flags / split packages

2009-11-04 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Mittwoch, den 04.11.2009, 18:44 +0300 schrieb Peter Volkov: > Hi. How do we handle packages that provide client, server, and possibly > extra tools/libraries? Do we split packages like binary distros do or do > we use USE flags? What USE flags? Currently some packages are split > other use clien

Re: [gentoo-dev] client/server consistency: USE flags / split packages

2009-11-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Peter Volkov wrote: > Hi. How do we handle packages that provide client, server, and possibly > extra tools/libraries? Do we split packages like binary distros do or do > we use USE flags? What USE flags? Currently some packages are split > other use client, server or minimal USE flag(s). > > Back

[gentoo-dev] client/server consistency: USE flags / split packages

2009-11-04 Thread Peter Volkov
Hi. How do we handle packages that provide client, server, and possibly extra tools/libraries? Do we split packages like binary distros do or do we use USE flags? What USE flags? Currently some packages are split other use client, server or minimal USE flag(s). Back in 2006 similar problem was dis

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite (part 1): KDE3-only applications that won't build when KDE4 is installed

2009-11-04 Thread Ben de Groot
2009/11/4 Dale : > Is it possible to just mask and maybe keyword KDE 3? This has already been decided. We are moving it to an overlay. I can't think of a valid reason why you would not use that overlay. > Maybe do a news item as to why it is being done? There *is* a news item: /usr/portage/metad

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite (part 1): KDE3-only applications that won't build when KDE4 is installed

2009-11-04 Thread AllenJB
Dale wrote: > < lowly user again > > > Is it possible to just mask and maybe keyword KDE 3? Maybe do a news > item as to why it is being done? That way people like me that don't use > overlays can still keep KDE 3.5 but it requires us to unmask them. It > would be just like we have to do to use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite (part 1): KDE3-only applications that won't build when KDE4 is installed

2009-11-04 Thread Dale
Pacho Ramos wrote: > El mié, 04-11-2009 a las 07:55 -0600, Dale escribió: > >> I mention because I have already downloaded Mandriva and plan to install >> it as a temporary fix if needed. I think I can suffer through Mandriva >> for a couple months while this gets sorted out. I'm planning to i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite (part 1): KDE3-only applications that won't build when KDE4 is installed

2009-11-04 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 04-11-2009 a las 07:55 -0600, Dale escribió: > > I mention because I have already downloaded Mandriva and plan to install > it as a temporary fix if needed. I think I can suffer through Mandriva > for a couple months while this gets sorted out. I'm planning to install > the same for my b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite (part 1): KDE3-only applications that won't build when KDE4 is installed

2009-11-04 Thread Dale
Ben de Groot wrote: > 2009/11/4 Dale : > >> We have been having a discussion on the KDE mailing list over the last >> few days and a couple of us Gentoo users have "issues". KDE 4 is just >> not ready quite yet. I firmly believe it will be in the next few months >> and with each upgrade it get

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite (part 1): KDE3-only applications that won't build when KDE4 is installed

2009-11-04 Thread Ben de Groot
2009/11/4 Dale : > We have been having a discussion on the KDE mailing list over the last > few days and a couple of us Gentoo users have "issues".  KDE 4 is just > not ready quite yet.  I firmly believe it will be in the next few months > and with each upgrade it gets better.  As I wrote on the KD

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-04 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Ben de Groot : > What about ppc64? They are MONTHS behind on stabilization, > even for security bugs (see bug 281821 for example). The Qt team > feels this is no longer acceptable. We propose that any arch that > can't keep up will be demoted to experimental status. I surely subscribe to th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite (part 1): KDE3-only applications that won't build when KDE4 is installed

2009-11-04 Thread Dale
Ben de Groot wrote: > 2009/11/3 Jörg Schaible > > # Samuli Suominen (16 Oct 2009) > # Fails to build with KDE4 installed wrt bug #277427. > # Masked for removal in 30 days. > net-news/eventwatcher > kde-misc/kisdnwatch > ... > http://bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-04 Thread Ben de Groot
What about ppc64? They are MONTHS behind on stabilization, even for security bugs (see bug 281821 for example). The Qt team feels this is no longer acceptable. We propose that any arch that can't keep up will be demoted to experimental status. -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lx

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite (part 1): KDE3-only applications that won't build when KDE4 is installed

2009-11-04 Thread Ben de Groot
2009/11/3 Jörg Schaible > >>> # Samuli Suominen (16 Oct 2009) > >>> # Fails to build with KDE4 installed wrt bug #277427. > >>> # Masked for removal in 30 days. > >>> net-news/eventwatcher > >>> kde-misc/kisdnwatch > >> ... > >>> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279823 > >> > >> Does kde te

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: FEATURES use or misuse?

2009-11-04 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Wednesday 04 November 2009 01:11:39 Ryan Hill wrote: > On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:28:57 +0100 > > Patrick Lauer wrote: > > And then why bother when the tree doesn't reflect PMS. > > Maybe if some people would stop ignoring PMS on whim because they don't > agree with something in it this wouldn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] FEATURES use or misuse?

2009-11-04 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Wednesday 04 November 2009 01:33:23 Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Patrick Lauer wrote: > > Calling EAPI is ... well ... I can't even think of a place to start to > > explain how wrong it is. How on earth are you going to parse an eclass > > that supports multiple EAPIs where one EAPI were to suppor