Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo dying?

2010-04-06 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 04/04/10 22:48, Roy Bamford wrote: Open bugs per package and mean age of bugs per package come to mind. Such per package metrics can be aggregated per herd, per project, the whole of Gentoo or whatever. A reducing mean age of bugs and open bugs shows we are moving in the right

Re: [gentoo-dev] [git migration] The problem of ChangeLog generation

2010-04-06 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 06-04-2010 07:43:02 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: * It makes zero sense to manually manage ChangeLogs in git[1] - Irritating conflicts while merging branches or remote master + Similar argument for having only distfile manifests; but I digress... - Duplication of effort and

Re: [gentoo-dev] [git migration] The problem of ChangeLog generation

2010-04-06 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote: On 06-04-2010 07:43:02 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: * It makes zero sense to manually manage ChangeLogs in git[1]   - Irritating conflicts while merging branches or remote master     + Similar argument for having only

[gentoo-dev] Re: [Gentoo Pheonix] Heartbeat team force

2010-04-06 Thread Torsten Veller
* Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org: - Package tree history (VCS logs, ..) - get real numbers on how much active manpower we have I am generating monthly stats for gentoo-x86 for a year or so: http://dev.gentoo.org/~tove/stats/gentoo-x86/ It lists the number of commits per month

Re: [gentoo-dev] [git migration] Proposition for tags supported by git hooks

2010-04-06 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Tuesday 06 of April 2010 04:13:02 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: One of the few remaining problems to be solved for the migration to git for our gentoo-x86/ and gentoo/ trees (besides other projects/overlays) is the problem of how to handle ChangeLogs. Great that you touched this topic.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we disable RESOLVED LATER from bugzilla?

2010-04-06 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Tuesday 06 of April 2010 07:47:17 Rémi Cardona wrote: How about changing how users search instead? Let's make the small search box search for ALL bugs instead of just opened ones. *That* should help tremendously. +1, maybe even enable it by default. That could reduce dupes imho. That,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [git migration] Proposition for tags supported by git hooks

2010-04-06 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Maciej Mrozowski reave...@gmail.com wrote: Solutions: * Do not re-generate the existing ChangeLog; rather make the ChangeLog generation script smart enough to only append   - Solves the messages not same problem for existing commits I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we disable RESOLVED LATER from bugzilla?

2010-04-06 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:47:17 +0200 Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org wrote: How about changing how users search instead? Let's make the small search box search for ALL bugs instead of just opened ones. *That* should help tremendously. Adding additional bug types to search for by default - ok.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [git migration] The problem of ChangeLog generation

2010-04-06 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 06-04-2010 12:31:51 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote: On 06-04-2010 07:43:02 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: * It makes zero sense to manually manage ChangeLogs in git[1]   - Irritating conflicts while merging branches

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-06 Thread Ben de Groot
On 6 April 2010 07:16, Stuart Longland redhat...@gentoo.org wrote: How are you off for moderators?  I don't have a lot of time to sit around waiting for stuff to compile these days (which is why I've been very inactive on the MIPS and Mozilla fronts) but I could look help out with the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [git migration] The problem of ChangeLog generation

2010-04-06 Thread Richard Freeman
On 04/05/2010 10:13 PM, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: * Proposed is to generate ChangeLogs from git commits on the rsync server side when metadata generation is done - Scripts to do this already exist[1] I haven't seen this discussed, so I'm going to toss this out there and duck: Why not just

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-06 Thread Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 03:00:10PM +0200, Ben de Groot wrote: On 6 April 2010 07:16, Stuart Longland redhat...@gentoo.org wrote: How are you off for moderators?  I don't have a lot of time to sit around waiting for stuff to compile these days (which is why I've been very inactive on the

[gentoo-dev] Re: [Gentoo Phoenix] recruitment process

2010-04-06 Thread Duncan
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto posted on Tue, 06 Apr 2010 02:16:52 + as excerpted: However and despite all the recent complaints about flames in the mailing lists, as someone that has been following the mailing lists for a while, the amount and level of flames has been substantially reduced

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-06 Thread James Cloos
ZM == Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org writes: ZM You can configure eclass override behavior via eclass-overrides in ZM /etc/portage/repos.conf, as documented in `man portage`. , From that manpage | When using eclass-overrides, due to bug #276264, you must ensure that | your portage tree does

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-06 Thread James Cloos
TV == Torsten Veller ml...@veller.net writes: TV * James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com: One change the perl eclasses require is elimination of the code which deletes the man pages. Deleting the man pages is /extremely/ rude and should not occur. TV There was a reason why the man-pages were

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-06 Thread James Cloos
MH == Michael Higgins li...@evolone.org writes: MH Yep. Why have a man page for a perl module? OTOH, if there is something MH that goes in /usr/bin, it should get a man page if there is one. But MH not for the modules themselves -- that's not needed at all. Because man(1) works better than the

[gentoo-dev] Re: perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-06 Thread Duncan
James Cloos posted on Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:27:36 -0400 as excerpted: MH == Michael Higgins li...@evolone.org writes: MH Yep. Why have a man page for a perl module? OTOH, if there is something MH that goes in /usr/bin, it should get a man page if there is one. But MH not for the modules

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-06 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:25:27 -0400 James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com wrote: Perl people -- I'm one -- use man(1); given the differences in usefulness, I cannot imagine why anyone would prefer perldoc(1) over man(1). I prefer perldoc over man. And I cannot imagine why anyone would prefer keeping

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [Gentoo Phoenix] recruitment process

2010-04-06 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: But while I don't do IRC, from various hints I've seen here, that hasn't necessarily been the case there.  I'm not making a judgement of whether that's good or bad and am only going on various asides I've seen here because as I

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-text/enchant: ChangeLog enchant-1.5.0.ebuild

2010-04-06 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le mardi 06 avril 2010 à 16:14 +, Jonathan Callen (abcd) a écrit : -src_unpack() { +src_prepare() { unpack ${A} cd ${S} # Fix for upstream bug #12305 @@ -41,13 +41,12 @@ eautoreconf } Please remove stuff that has no place in prepare (unpack, cd ${S})

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-text/enchant: ChangeLog enchant-1.5.0.ebuild

2010-04-06 Thread Jonathan Callen
On 04/06/2010 12:26 PM, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: Le mardi 06 avril 2010 à 16:14 +, Jonathan Callen (abcd) a écrit : -src_unpack() { +src_prepare() { unpack ${A} cd ${S} # Fix for upstream bug #12305 @@ -41,13 +41,12 @@ eautoreconf } Please

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-06 Thread Zac Medico
On 04/06/2010 07:22 AM, James Cloos wrote: ZM == Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org writes: ZM You can configure eclass override behavior via eclass-overrides in ZM /etc/portage/repos.conf, as documented in `man portage`. , From that manpage | When using eclass-overrides, due to bug

Re: [gentoo-dev] [git migration] The problem of ChangeLog generation

2010-04-06 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 09:06:24AM -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: Why not just get rid of the in-tree Changelogs entirely? The scm logs already document this information, so why have it in a file? The major concern with this is users that are NOT connected to the internet always. If you are