Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing herdno-herd/herd?

2011-09-11 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:54:06 +0200 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 11:22:16 +0300 Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On 10/09/2011 11:15 πμ, Mike Gilbert wrote: For example, in IRC, willikins tries to look up the members of no-herd when you do !meta

[gentoo-dev] fhs and multilib question

2011-09-11 Thread William Hubbs
Hi all, I have been dealing with a bug in openrc which prompted me to look at our directory structure for libraries on 64 bit systems. The bug will be referenced below[1]. The problem in the bug isn't the location of libraries, but the fact that there is a mount point stored under the library

Re: [gentoo-dev] fhs and multilib question

2011-09-11 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 11:50:28 -0500 William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi all, I have been dealing with a bug in openrc which prompted me to look at our directory structure for libraries on 64 bit systems. The bug will be referenced below[1]. The problem in the bug isn't the location

Re: [gentoo-dev] fhs and multilib question

2011-09-11 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
Hi all, There is a draft of fhs-3.0[1] Also i think that lib should be symlink to lib64 on 64bit systems its at least will be consistent My 0.02 $CURRENCY. [1] http://dev.linuxfoundation.org/~licquia/fhs-3.0-drafts/fhs.html On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 11:50:28 -0500, William Hubbs wrote: Hi all,

Re: [gentoo-dev] fhs and multilib question

2011-09-11 Thread William Hubbs
Hi Alexey, On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 08:29:34PM +0300, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: Hi all, There is a draft of fhs-3.0[1] Also i think that lib should be symlink to lib64 on 64bit systems its at least will be consistent I'm not sure how it makes things consistent, but if fhs 3 allows it, I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing herdno-herd/herd?

2011-09-11 Thread Mark Loeser
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org said: On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:54:06 +0200 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 11:22:16 +0300 Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On 10/09/2011 11:15 πμ, Mike Gilbert wrote: For example, in IRC, willikins tries to look up

Re: [gentoo-dev] fhs and multilib question

2011-09-11 Thread James Cloos
WH == William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org writes: WH Here is what I've found in fhs [2]. [ the fhs's nonsense about lib vs lib32 vs lib64 ] WH If there is no opposition, what would it take for us to do this? Please do not break the amd64 status quo; lib - lib64 is the correct thing to do for

Re: [gentoo-dev] punt app-arch/cpio from system

2011-09-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, September 09, 2011 14:47:56 Mike Frysinger wrote: anyone have a good reason for keeping cpio around in the system profile ? moved to the bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/382633 any other issues should get posted to the bug -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

[gentoo-dev] multilib setup

2011-09-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
i dont care what the FHS has to say on the topic, so i havent bothered looking. below is documentation on the current system, and where i plan on taking things in the future. note that this only applies to amd64, ppc64, sparc64, and s390x systems where people think in terms of 32bit and 64bit

Re: [gentoo-dev] fhs and multilib question

2011-09-11 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 09/11/2011 12:50, William Hubbs wrote: Here is what I've found in fhs [2]. - /lib should always exist on all architectures. - /lib64 should only exist on amd64, ppc64, sparc64 and s390x. It should hold 64 bit libraries, and /lib should hold 32 bit (or 31 bit on s390x)

Re: [gentoo-dev] fhs and multilib question

2011-09-11 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:04:44 -0400 Joshua Kinard ku...@gentoo.org wrote: MIPS clarification: o32 ABI (32bit) - /lib n32 ABI (32bit w/ full access to 64bit address space/registers) - /lib32 n64 ABI (64bit) - /lib64 In a full-on MIPS multilib, you can have all three folders present

[gentoo-dev] Re: multilib setup

2011-09-11 Thread Duncan
Mike Frysinger posted on Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:55:49 -0400 as excerpted: all current multilib systems use the sub-profile features/multilib/lib32/. in there, we set SYMLINK_LIB=yes. this causes the 32bit libs to move from their normal ABI location in lib to lib32 and then symlink lib to

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2011-09-11 23h59 UTC

2011-09-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2011-09-11 23h59 UTC. Removals: app-crypt/ekey-egd-linux2011-09-05 19:44:13 flameeyes gnome-extra/gget2011-09-06 19:44:19 pva dev-libs/libots

Re: [gentoo-dev] fhs and multilib question

2011-09-11 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 09/11/2011 17:47, Michał Górny wrote: Looks like n32 is less '32' than o32 so a little weird classification but I guess historical reasons. In a way, yeah. The gory details are in the N32 ABI guide here, if your curiosity is morbid enough:

[gentoo-dev] A big thanks to Matt Turner for his hard work on Gentoo/MIPS

2011-09-11 Thread Joshua Kinard
Hey all, I just want to take a minute to thank Matt Turner (mattst88) for all his hard work and leadership in keeping Gentoo/MIPS alive within the project. It has been a long, tough road for the MIPS port of Gentoo. Our hardware is quirky, extremely diversified, sometimes archaic, and not the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: multilib setup

2011-09-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday, September 11, 2011 19:10:26 Duncan wrote: But somehow, it never happened, and over time, as 64-bit became common and pretty much everything (at least everything freedomware) was ported and the existing setup worked better and better, the pressure to leave what was now working