Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-08-10 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michał Górny schrieb: > On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:33:10 +0200 > Thomas Sachau wrote: > >> Michał Górny schrieb: >>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:24:27 -0500 >>> William Hubbs wrote: >>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:18:00PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, all. > > Since nowadays udev is

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI in metadata.xml

2012-08-10 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 10/08/2012 13:05, Corentin Chary wrote: > Right, our proposal is not here to replace SRC_URI, it's here to fix > the cases where SRC_URI can't be sanely used to guess new upstream > versions (strange mangling rules, unbrowsable directories, etc...). Yes I guess Jeroen was just saying why we sho

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI in metadata.xml

2012-08-10 Thread Corentin Chary
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:03:23 +0200 > Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: > >> Since you are proposing this, a side question is: >> Why should we write SRC_URI in ebuilds if that info is now available >> in metadata.xml ? (granted that we might sti

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] euscan: Need to add more upstream info in metadata.xml

2012-08-10 Thread Corentin Chary
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: > Having done some debian packaging for work, I find watch files from > debian really helpful. Changing the format to a XML compatible one does > not seem like a hard work so I'll probably leave that up for others to > discuss. > > Sinc

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-08-10 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:33:10 +0200 Thomas Sachau wrote: > Michał Górny schrieb: > > On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:24:27 -0500 > > William Hubbs wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:18:00PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > >>> Hello, all. > >>> > >>> Since nowadays udev is bundled within systemd, we

[gentoo-dev] Re: Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-10 Thread Duncan
Michał Górny posted on Fri, 10 Aug 2012 09:43:26 +0200 as excerpted: > On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 05:04:40 + (UTC) > Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > >> Michał Górny posted on Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:47:38 +0200 as excerpted: >> >> > Or anything else what can be spawned for shell. And a lot more

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-08-10 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michał Górny schrieb: > On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:24:27 -0500 > William Hubbs wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:18:00PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: >>> Hello, all. >>> >>> Since nowadays udev is bundled within systemd, we start having two >>> libudev providers: >=sys-apps/systemd-185 and sys-fs/

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI in metadata.xml

2012-08-10 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 10/08/2012 07:21, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > 3) SRC_URI can change over time, and across versions (even with all the >variables in place). I agree with Jeroen here — in particular see things that come from alioth such as sys-apps/pcsc-lite and app-crypt/ccid: the SRC_URI actually has to change

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI in metadata.xml

2012-08-10 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:03:23 +0200 Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: > Since you are proposing this, a side question is: > Why should we write SRC_URI in ebuilds if that info is now available > in metadata.xml ? (granted that we might still want to keep > over-riding this information in ebuilds) 1) T

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] euscan: Need to add more upstream info in metadata.xml

2012-08-10 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Having done some debian packaging for work, I find watch files from debian really helpful. Changing the format to a XML compatible one does not seem like a hard work so I'll probably leave that up for others to discuss. Since you are proposing this, a side question is: Why should we write SRC_URI

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Luca Barbato wrote: > The whole point of the debate should be if easier to have systemd split > itself in usable components so people with certain focuses could > leverage it on linux and replace those on non-linux (apparently not a > chance) or have what we curren

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] euscan: Need to add more upstream info in metadata.xml

2012-08-10 Thread Federico "fox" Scrinzi
Hi everybody! euscan is available in portage as a dev package (app-portage/euscan-). This tool allows to check if a given package/ebuild has new upstream versions or not. It uses different heuristics to scan upstream and grab new versions and related urls. euscan can use either custom "handle

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-10 Thread Luca Barbato
On 08/10/2012 09:43 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > vdr is a first example which comes to my mind. They workaround program > configuration limitations and the init.d scripts become a complex > extra-configuration parser + plugin loader. Well, another thing here is > that upstream AFAIK is not willing to

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-08-10 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:24:27 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:18:00PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > > Hello, all. > > > > Since nowadays udev is bundled within systemd, we start having two > > libudev providers: >=sys-apps/systemd-185 and sys-fs/udev. Making > > the long st

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-10 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 05:04:40 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Michał Górny posted on Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:47:38 +0200 as excerpted: > > > On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:30:02 +0200 Luca Barbato > > wrote: > > > >> On 08/09/2012 09:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > >>> On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 10