Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Policy for migrating library consumers to subslots

2013-09-30 Thread Kent Fredric
On 1 October 2013 04:52, Martin Vaeth wrote: > > For instance, if you have your home-brewn version of program X, > you can just install the version under its own package name Y and > make it satisfy all dependencies of X. > (Currently you have to mess around with package.provided which has > many

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > Agreed. I was always told that it is up to the arch teams to test the > reverse deps. While I think this makes the most sense in general, I think maintainers do have a role. If some package has 75 reverse dependencies, and 1 of them tend

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:40:04AM +0200, Thomas Kahle wrote: > On 09/29/2013 11:41 PM, hasufell wrote: > > It seems this happens more frequently these days, so I'd like to > > remind people to check stable reverse deps before stabilizing a > > library, especially when this is a non-maintainer stab

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: status of OpenRC's public API

2013-09-30 Thread William Hubbs
I just saw this today, because the original msg went to another mailbox, but the reply showed up here on -dev. On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 08:39:06AM -0400, Douglas Freed wrote: > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > Dnia 2013-09-13, o godz. 19:16:06 > > William Hubbs napisał(a):

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread Markos Chandras
On 09/30/2013 11:44 AM, hasufell wrote: > On 09/30/2013 09:22 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> On 09/29/2013 10:41 PM, hasufell wrote: >>> Arch teams do not test them, so this is the business of the >>> maintainer or the dev who requested stabilization. >>> > >> That is definitely not true. We always

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 09/30/2013 07:45 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > hasufell schrieb: >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=464536 >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470554 >> >> for the first bug: >> net-libs/ortp media-libs/mediastreamer and net-voip/linphone >> are from the same upstream

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Policy for migrating library consumers to subslots

2013-09-30 Thread Martin Vaeth
Kent Fredric wrote: >> >> > The best solution I presently have for this problem, would be to have >> > a PROVIDES-${PV}.json file in every package under files/ >> >> Not under files but in the eclass, and the rest of the >> work is done by the perl-dep function. > > The reason I suggested that app

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 9/30/13 3:44 AM, hasufell wrote: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470554 > [...] > for the second bug: > we now have a stable net-libs/libosip that cannot be installed when > you want to install stable net-libs/libeXosip... that is not a good > spot. Those libraries again should have be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Upgrade Guide and EAPI

2013-09-30 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 9/30/13 1:31 AM, hero...@gentoo.org wrote: > Having a unstable eclass as toolchain-r1.eclass in tree might not be a > good idea compared to an overlay though. If that's the case, it should be pretty straightforward to create an overlay with that eclass, either under toolchain-r1 or just toolcha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 9/29/13 11:14 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > If you look at the policy, it says to test few rdeps. And I think this is right. If you'd like things to be done in a different way, discussing them is OK, but "unilaterally" just skipping that is not OK. > The arch tester is in charge to test the pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: status of OpenRC's public API

2013-09-30 Thread Douglas Freed
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2013-09-13, o godz. 19:16:06 > William Hubbs napisał(a): > >> OpenRC currently has a public api, consisting of librc and libeinfo >> (rc.h and einfo.h are the headers); however, I do not know of any >> released software that uses these,

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/30/2013 01:45 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > hasufell schrieb: >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=464536 >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470554 >> >> for the first bug: net-libs/ortp media-libs/mediastreamer and >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] autoconf now supports multislots

2013-09-30 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/17/2013 09:05 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:58:20 -0400 Michael Mol > wrote: >> On 4/17/2013 2:48 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:33:29 -0400 Mike Frysinger >>> wrote: but i'm super lazy, so even

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
hasufell schrieb: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=464536 > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470554 > > for the first bug: > net-libs/ortp media-libs/mediastreamer and net-voip/linphone > are from the same upstream and actually have to be bumped and > stabilized TOGETHER, because it

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/30/2013 09:22 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: > On 09/29/2013 10:41 PM, hasufell wrote: >> Arch teams do not test them, so this is the business of the >> maintainer or the dev who requested stabilization. >> > > That is definitely not true. We alway

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Upgrade Guide and EAPI

2013-09-30 Thread heroxbd
"Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" writes: > While I'm not nearly good enough to detail how this should happen > exactly, please, may I beg, do an eclass revision for this. There is an r1 candidate as Paweł initiated (bug 474358) > The fact that this hasn't been done clearly implies it is a lot of

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread Markos Chandras
On 09/29/2013 10:41 PM, hasufell wrote: > Arch teams do not test them, so this is the business of the maintainer > or the dev who requested stabilization. > That is definitely not true. We always trained Arch Testers to test reverse dependencies as well. -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Lin