Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: don't rely on dynamic deps

2014-07-29 Thread Peter Stuge
Martin Vaeth wrote: The user's vardb could then automatically receive the last state of the ebuild, before it was removed. It doesn't help reliably, either, since the last state of the ebuild, before it was removed, will be outdated at some point, too. Sorry, I don't see how. Can

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: don't rely on dynamic deps

2014-07-29 Thread Kent Fredric
On 29 July 2014 19:33, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: I think the vdb can and should be updated according to portage changes. Someone just needs to code it. ;) And an appropriate method for doing this must be decided upon. And that part entails 70% of the discussion dispute :) -- Kent

[gentoo-dev] Re: don't rely on dynamic deps

2014-07-29 Thread Martin Vaeth
Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: This suggests another data model bug to me: that dependencies belong to the dependent packages, rather than to dependency providers. Sometimes it is this way, sometimes the opposite. It would not be natural to associate to a huge library like openssl the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: don't rely on dynamic deps

2014-07-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 3:33 AM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Rich Freeman wrote: This is really the crux of these sorts of issues. It doesn't matter if dependencies are static or dynamic - if you hang onto orphans then you're going to have cruft in your vdb which is going to lead to

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: USE flags in virtuals, to allow a specific provider to be determined

2014-07-29 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 23:23:04 -0500 James Potts are...@gmail.com wrote: Paludis has an elegant solution for this situation (-F/-A), but afaik portage doesn't. I'd not call -F / -A elegant... It's a nasty trick that we only added because || dependencies are such a pain. They shouldn't be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/x265: x265-1.0.ebuild ChangeLog x265-1.2.ebuild x265-0.8.ebuild

2014-07-29 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Alex Xu alex_y...@yahoo.ca wrote: http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/media-libs/x265/x265-.ebuild?revision=1.9view=markup#l9 Thanks, Alex. This makes more sense now. Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/x265: x265-1.0.ebuild ChangeLog x265-1.2.ebuild x265-0.8.ebuild

2014-07-29 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: AFAIK, gentoo policy is that live ebuilds should always be masked so as never to be automatically pulled in without a deliberate unmasking of the live ebuild, but whether that's masked due to lack of keywords (ebuild), or due

Re: [gentoo-dev] About current ppc/ppc64 status

2014-07-29 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 07/26/14 18:01, Pacho Ramos wrote: El sáb, 26-07-2014 a las 16:29 -0400, Anthony G. Basile escribió: On 07/26/14 09:44, Pacho Ramos wrote: El sáb, 26-07-2014 a las 09:37 -0400, Anthony G. Basile escribió: On 07/26/14 09:28, Pacho Ramos wrote: El sáb, 26-07-2014 a las 14:55 +0200, Andreas

Re: [gentoo-dev] gcc-4.8 may be needed in stable for www-client/chromium-38.x

2014-07-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: Looks like www-client/chromium is going to start using c++11 seriously and require gcc-4.8+, see thread https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/chromium-packagers/fvJvPG8fa7I/iWPEsUxhKikJ This is in the dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] gcc-4.8 may be needed in stable for www-client/chromium-38.x

2014-07-29 Thread Georg Rudoy
2014-07-29 20:28 GMT+04:00 Mike Gilbert flop...@gentoo.org: A third option that comes from the chromium-packagers ML: 3. Download and use the pre-built clang binaries from the Chromium project. As a proxy maintainer of a package that also utilizes C++11 extensively in late releases, I'm also

Re: [gentoo-dev] gcc-4.8 may be needed in stable for www-client/chromium-38.x

2014-07-29 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-07-23, o godz. 19:48:17 Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Looks like www-client/chromium is going to start using c++11 seriously and require gcc-4.8+, see thread https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/chromium-packagers/fvJvPG8fa7I/iWPEsUxhKikJ This is in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/x265: x265-1.0.ebuild ChangeLog x265-1.2.ebuild x265-0.8.ebuild

2014-07-29 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 29/07/14 03:15, Denis Dupeyron wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:41 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: x265-1.2.ebuild:KEYWORDS=~amd64 ~arm ~x86 x265-1.3.ebuild:KEYWORDS=~amd64 ~x86 x265-.ebuild:KEYWORDS=~amd64 ~x86 As in... You forgot to add ~arm to

Re: [gentoo-dev] About current ppc/ppc64 status

2014-07-29 Thread Jack Morgan
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 04:29:51PM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote: On 07/26/14 09:44, Pacho Ramos wrote: El sáb, 26-07-2014 a las 09:37 -0400, Anthony G. Basile escribió: On 07/26/14 09:28, Pacho Ramos wrote: El sáb, 26-07-2014 a las 14:55 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel escribió: Am Samstag,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Restructuring the ppc/ppc64 profiles to be better multilib

2014-07-29 Thread Jack Morgan
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 02:46:43PM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote: Hi everyone, This is a ppc/ppc64 issues, but I'm sending this to gentoo-dev@ because it seems to me that those herds are pretty scattered right: 1) The issue came up about restructuring the arch/powerpc profiles. There

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: don't rely on dynamic deps

2014-07-29 Thread Alexander Tsoy
В Sun, 27 Jul 2014 14:42:24 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org пишет: On 26/07/14 15:49, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 12:41:16 + (UTC) Martin Vaeth mar...@mvath.de wrote: hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Dynamics deps are already broken, not consistently

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: don't rely on dynamic deps

2014-07-29 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 30/07/14 07:45, Alexander Tsoy wrote: В Sun, 27 Jul 2014 14:42:24 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org пишет: On 26/07/14 15:49, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 12:41:16 + (UTC) Martin Vaeth mar...@mvath.de wrote: hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Dynamics deps